1. Keeping Children and Adults Safe
    Click Here for more information!
    Dismiss Notice
  2. What do you do if you have a loved one missing?
    In this section, you will find tips on what to do and not do.
    Easily find organizations that you can contact for help.
    Click here for more information
    Dismiss Notice
  3. “We can't help everyone, but everyone can help someone.”
    Our mission: Working together to help locate the missing, name the unidentified
    and discuss true crime cases within an intellectual, safe and respectful Internet community.
    *~*~*~*Don't forget, we are on Facebook! www.facebook.com/CrimeWatchersNet*~*~*~*~*
    CLICK HERE FOR FORUM SUPPORT
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Welcome to Crimewatchers.net! We are happy to have you with us.
Please let any staff member know if you need assistance. We're here to help! (If you aren't a member, please join us today. We'd love to meet you!)
Dismiss Notice
Crimewatchers.net opened on April 26, 2015 with the purpose of making a difference in getting the word out for the missing, unidentified, and justice for victims. Let us know if you have a case you'd like us to feature here, on Twitter &/or Facebook. Contact email: CrimewatchersCW@gmail.com

NH ALLENSTOWN JANE DOES: 1 Adult & 3 Children, female, found in metal drum - Nov 1985 *3 Identified!*

Discussion in 'Unidentified 1980 to 1989' started by Takeitfromme, Sep 28, 2015.

  1. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Authorities piece together a N.H. cold case in an attempt to ID victims


    By RAY DUCKLER

    We know a lot about the Bear Brook State Park murders.

    We wish we knew more, though.

    We know the killer’s name is Terry Peder Rasmussen, not Bob Evans or Gerry Mockerman or any of the other aliases he once used. We also know he fathered four children, he left New Hampshire with a Goffstown High School graduate, he killed a woman in California and, after his conviction for that murder, he died in prison seven years ago.

    But Sgt. Mike Kokoski of the state’s Cold Case Unit still wonders about the woman and three little girls found in barrels near the park, one in 1985, the other 15 years later.

    They remain unidentified more than three decades after their deaths.


    In short, we’re not done with this nightmare yet. There’s more information yet to be discovered.

    “The Allenstown case will be closed when those victims are identified,” Kokoski told me Thursday by phone.

    The attorney general’s office released more pieces to a scattered puzzle Thursday, following the announcement in August that the killer was Rasmussen and he grew up in Arizona.

    There wasn’t much new here, other than a few tidbits added to a timeline that takes several reads before fully sinking in.

    And even then, it proves perplexing.

    Not only are police still trying to figure out the names of the four females found near the park, but they’d also like to know what happened to Denise Beaudin, the Goffstown girl who left the state with her daughter and Rasmussen in 1981.

    She hasn’t been heard from since, and police believe she was killed by Rasmussen as well. The point is, the more authorities feed the media information about this awful tale, the better the chance that someone will come forward and unlock these mysteries.

    As Kokoski told me, “Admittedly, the press release today isn’t any kind of bombshell, really. It’s just kind of a revision and a small update to the timeline. We want to keep that out there and keep that current just for that reason.”

    The story of Rasmussen, who’s probably killed six people that we know of, spreads across the country. He was raised in Arizona, he lived in Hawaii, he moved to California and he worked in Texas.

    And then there’s his connection to New Hampshire, the epicenter of a madman’s evil behavior.

    It was here that Rasmussen took the name Bob Evans and worked as an electrician. It was here that he convinced Beaudin to leave the state with him, along with her 6-month-old daughter, who was later abandoned and whose DNA linked her mother to Rasmussen/Evans.

    And it was here, in about 1980, that Rasmussen killed those three little girls and that woman, none of whom have yet to be identified. The woman, estimated to be 23- to 33-years-old, and a girl whom forensics revealed was between 5 and 11, were found near Bear Brook in a 55-gallon drum.

    Then, 15 years later, two girls, both around 2 years old, were found in another barrel in the same area.

    In the years since, DNA showed that the woman was somehow related to two of the girls, although officials could not determine if she was their mother.

    The other younger girl, science showed, was Rasmussen’s daughter, leading investigators to wonder who the mother was and whether she was alive or dead.

    Looking through the maze-like timeline shows that Rasmussen and an unknown woman visited his then-wife and their four children in December of 1975 or ‘76 in Payson, Ariz. That woman may very well be the mother of the dead girl found here, and, of course, she may well be dead herself.

    “We’re very interested in this unidentified woman who he was seen with in Arizona by family members,” Kokoski said. “That woman we think potentially could be critical to all of this and it could be the mother of that child here in Allenstown, or maybe not. It could be some other woman.

    “But whoever it is,” Kokoski continued, “she certainly has insight into that critical period, and if she is in fact the mother of the child here in New Hampshire, obviously we want to identify her.”

    In other words, police will continue searching, continue sending press releases, continue using media to spread the word and find some answers.

    They want to know what happened to Beaudin, who was 23 when she disappeared.

    “The Manchester Police Department case with Denise Beaudin will remain open until they find, presumably, her remains,” Kokoski said.

    The Bear Brook State Park murders are wide open as well.

    Not who committed the crime.

    Who these four people were.

    “The primary objectives here are to identify the Allenstown victims and find Denise Beaudin,” Kokoski said. “I think for all intents and purposes, once those goals are met, the case would end in terms of New Hampshire.”

    TERRY PEDER RASMUSSEN

    1943: Born Dec. 23 in Colorado

    1954-1958: Attends Whittier Elementary School, Phoenix, Ariz.

    1958-1961: Resides in Phoenix with family

    1959-1960: Attends North High School in Phoenix; drops out after sophomore year

    1961: Enlists in the U.S. Navy

    1967: Discharged from the Navy

    1967-1968: Moves to Hawaii; works in parents’ shoe shop

    1968: Gets married in Hawaii

    1969: Moves to Phoenix; twin daughters born; works as electrician for a boss named “Otto” (company unknown)

    1970: Family moves to Redwood City, Calif.; works as electrician in Palo Alto; son is born

    1972: Daughter is born; He and wife separate temporarily

    1973: approximate date; Rasmussen and family move back to Phoenix; again works for “Otto”; also works in a shoe shop

    1973: Arrested by Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office

    1975: Arrested in Phoenix for aggravated assault; it is believed that his wife and children left him shortly after this arrest

    1975 or 1976: Arrives unexpectedly to visit wife and children in Payson, Ariz. He is with unidentified female; indicates he’s living in Ingleside, Texas; Last time he’s seen by family

    1978: Works for the “Brown & Root” Company in Houston; quit to work elsewhere

    1978: Contacts friend in Arizona and asks for money; says he is in Texas working on an oil rig

    1978: Divorce finalized; whereabouts unknown

    1978-1979: approximate date; worked at Waumbec Mills in Manchester as head electrician; now known as Bob Evans

    1980: Evans arrested in Manchester for issuing a bad check

    1980: Evans arrested in Manchester for theft of services (electricity)

    1980: Arrested in Manchester for diverting electric current

    1981: Denise Beaudin of Manchester goes missing shortly after Thanksgiving with her 6 month old daughter and her boyfriend, Robert T. Evans

    1984-1985: Hired under name Curtis Kimball by electrical company in Los Alamitos, Calif.

    1985: Kimball arrested in Cypress, Calif., for DUI

    1985: First barrel found adjacent to Bear Brook State Park in Allenstown containing an unidentified adult female (age 23 to 33) and female child (5 to 11)

    1986: In Santa Cruz County, Calif., living and working at the Holiday Host RV Park in Scotts Valley under name Gordon Jenson

    1986: Abandons child (Denise Beaudin’s daughter) in California and flees

    1986: Fingerprints match between Gordon Jenson and Curtis Mayo Kimball, confirming they are the same person

    1988: Pulled over in San Luis Obispo, Calif., under name Gerry Mockerman, driving a stolen vehicle from Preston, Idaho

    1989: Rasmussen arrested in California on warrants for child abandonment and sentenced to 3 years

    1990: Paroled and absconded the following day in California

    1998: Stopped in California under the name Lawrence William Vanner and cited for not having insurance or a driver’s license

    2000: Second barrel found adjacent to Bear Brook State Park in Allenstown, containing two unidentified female children (ages 2 to 4) and (1 to 3)

    2002: Girlfriend Eunsoon Jun disappears from Richmond, Calif.

    2002: Rasmussen arrested for Eunsoon Jun’s murder and parole violation

    2003: Convicted of Eunsoon Jun’s murder and sentenced to prison for 15 years to life

    2003: DNA testing confirmed that Rasmussen not the biological father of the child he abandoned in June 1986 (Denise Beaudin’s daughter)

    2010: Rasmussen dies in prison

    2016: The California San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Office contacts New Hampshire authorities about Rasmussen and his connection to New Hampshire

    2016: DNA confirms Rasmussen is biological father of the unidentified 2- to 4-year-old little girl found dead in Allenstown in 2000

    2017: Authorities release details of subject Robert “Bob” Evans and his connection to the Allenstown homicides and disappearance of Denise Beaudin

    2017: Authorities complete DNA testing confirming the man known as Robert “Bob” Evans is actually Terry Peder Rasmussen

    (Ray Duckler can be reached at 369-3304 or rduckler@cmonitor.com or on Twitter @rayduckler.)



    http://www.concordmonitor.com/Identifying-a-serial-killer-reminds-us-about-victims-13496109

    Excellent timeline here!
     
  2. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    New England's Unsolved: The Allenstown murders investigation continues

    It is one of New Hampshire's darkest and most haunting mysteries.

    In quiet Allenstown, New Hampshire, 60 miles north of Boston, investigators are still trying to identify the bodies of four victims, three of them children, discovered inside barrels decades ago.

    None of these victims has been identified.

    In 2016, New England's Unsolved traveled to Alexandria, Virginia and spoke to an artist with the National Center of Missing and Exploited Children, who created life-like computer images of the victims’ faces, based on an analysis of their skulls.

    "You can't help but get personally attached to it," NCMEC artist Joe Mullins said. "You just feel a sense of horror that these victims, had to endure, their last, their final moments on this planet."

    The mystery of the Allenstown bodies continues to drive investigators to give them the dignity of their names.



    His family last saw Terry Rasmussen around Christmas 1975 in Payson, Arizona, in the company of an unidentified woman.

    New Hampshire detectives are trying to identify that woman because she might be the mother of the middle child found in one of the Allenstown barrels. That identification, in turn, could be the key to identifying the adult woman and her two children.

    From what is publicly known about Terry Rasmussen, he could be responsible for seven homicides: the four Allenstown victims, Eunsoon Jun, Denise Beaudin and the unknown Arizona woman.

    There could be even more victims.

    But right now, the priority is identifying the four people thrown away in barrels in the woods of Allenstown, New Hampshire.

    If you have any information this case, call the New Hampshire State Police Cold Case Unit at 603-223-3856.

    http://www.fox25boston.com/news/new...own-murders-investigation-continues/649411629
     
  3. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    This case is going to get solved. That one person that knows something will eventually get that tip into the right person.
     
  4. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    Kokoski the detective in charge is super dedicated to this case he is still young and he along with FBI and other supportive agencies I know they will solve at least the identities of the Allenstown girls
     
  5. Jason Futch

    Jason Futch TCCF Host, King of the Highway

    How does a whole family just suddenly disappear and no one notice? Riddle me this!
     
    Mel70, Takeitfromme, Akoya and 4 others like this.
  6. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    That's one reason why I wonder if they are an undocumented family, like a gypsy family or something.
     
  7. spike

    spike Bronze Member

    Gosh!
    These new DNA/ancestral procedures mught solve this one!
     
    patsella, Takeitfromme, Akoya and 2 others like this.
  8. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    When I saw this thead been bumped, that's what I was hoping had happened.
     
  9. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    It is so crazy. We know who the suspect is. He is now dead. The one child not related to the mom and other 2 kids is suspects daughter but no one knows who she is or whother mom was. Unreal, never ever did I think we would have these 4 jane doe's still UID but know who killed them.
    The gypsies we have up this way are typically Roma and in the paving biz (scammers) These recons look nothing like these I refer to because they all look alike lol.
    But who knows, maybe mom was a teen run away later had 2 kids and unfortunately met a horrible fate. There could also be a situation where the adult female was estranged from family and no one reported her missing. Maybe doesn't even know she may have had 2 kids
     
  10. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    Denise Beaudoin's family broke this case wide open. Even though she wasn't necessarily estranged from her family they had every probable reason in the world to believe that she may have taken her child and left with her boyfriend to start a new life somewhere else due to financial issues Maybe just needing a change. It wasn't until her daughter that no one knew was in California as an adult now had been adopted and had no idea where her mother was that's why Denise's family didn't report her missing until like last year when the DNA came through and Lisa found her grandfather which is Denise's father and she found out that she was not Terry Rasmussen daughter. I would have to go back and double-check the very lengthy story of it all but the short version of it is Lisa having her DNA submitted through ancestry sites which located the grandfather which led to police and National Center for missing and exploited children 2 run the DNA and look into everything further and when's the New Hampshire State Police was notified regarding Denise and Lisa who's now an adult it was National Center for missing and exploited children who connected all the dots together and had Rasmussen DNA put through the system to see if there's a match to the children in Allenstown and it turns out the only child does not related to the woman and other two children is his daughter but where is her mother who is her mother who is she who is the woman in the barrel who is the other two girls related to the woman it's heartbreaking all these years to not be able to identify any of them I think that if they could identify even one they could identify all because it would just open a new Road to investigate and backtrack through the short lives they had and find their relatives and figure out what happened when was the last time anybody saw them does anyone know this woman did anyone know she had two kids or at least two kids in her care that are related to her it's a baffling case it really is I've spoken to a couple detectives regarding this case and they are so devoted to it over all these years some officers having a case on their desk for their entire career they want to solve it they want to know who are these girls give them their names find their families I can tell you that they won't leave any stone unturned any tip even as crazy as it could sound they do not pass them over they follow it all the way to the end
     
    KareBear, Whatsnext, patsella and 3 others like this.
  11. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    I haven't had a chance to follow but there is a podcast for this case now through NPR
     
  12. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    Check this out!!!! Oh my lord!!!! Elizabeth Lamotte - Age 16 - 1983.jpg
     

    Attached Files:

    Whatsnext, Cousin Dupree and spike like this.
  13. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

  14. Mel70

    Mel70 Bronze Member

  15. Redrover

    Redrover Well-Known Member

    I have a feeling that there are more people missing or deceased because of him than we know about. We know the 4 at Bear Brook, Denise, and his California girlfriend he was convicted for but it would not surprise me at all if there are few more Does that met there demise at the hands if this fella. Probably a few being discussed on this website.
     
  16. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    I couldn't agree more!
     
    Mel70, Takeitfromme and Cousin Dupree like this.
  17. Mel70

    Mel70 Bronze Member

    I COMPLETELY AGREE ! I don't know how there COULDN'T be. This Guy... WOW!!! He was ALL OVER THE U.S.! THERE IS NO TELLING WHAT OTHER HORRORS HE LEFT IN HIS WAKE.
     
    Takeitfromme and Cousin Dupree like this.
  18. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Couldn't find the isotopes info on this thread, so adding it here for reference.

    The latest forensic break is from the microscopic chemical clues in the victim’s bodies. Chemical isotopes in the four females’ hair, teeth and bones has narrowed down that they were from the northeast – and lived together for the weeks and perhaps months leading up to their deaths.


    https://www.forensicmag.com/article...-new-details-30-year-old-multiple-murder-case
     
  19. Mel70

    Mel70 Bronze Member

    I STILL CAN'T get over the Fact that One of the Children was one of "Rasmussen's" OWN! I THINK IT JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE EVIL HE PERPETRATED.!!! KILLING OTHERS IS BAD ENOUGH. BUT THEN YOUR OWN TOO. THAT'S SOMEONE BEYOND "EVIL"!
     
  20. The Coffeenator

    The Coffeenator Fluent in crapanese

    Highlighted text by me, taken from an 1 1/2 month old article:

    https://alltogether.swe.org/2019/01...YMPyJY-FwMfYXeyDDX0JR2kCaTQgRNQpiQJ3s68_ieW5c

    So, I guess we'll be soon getting exciting news on the Eastern part of the US as well as the Western (Annie Doe)! :woohoo:
     
    Dobrev, Sunburst, Whatsnext and 2 others like this.

Share This Page