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NH ALLENSTOWN JANE DOES: 1 Adult & 3 Children, female, found in metal drum - Nov 1985 *3 Identified!*

Discussion in 'Unidentified 1980 to 1989' started by Takeitfromme, Sep 28, 2015.

  1. Mel70

    Mel70 Bronze Member

    The tie and announcement in Nov. "18" of "Elizabeth Lamotte" being identified might be where the confusion is. She was missing from"New Hampshire 1984". Found Deceased in "Tennessee 1985" But wasn't identified and tied to "Rasmussen" until 11/13/18.
     
  2. Romulus

    Romulus In the earth of missing person

  3. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    No clue. I haven't heard anything that the woman had been id'd. The YDC runaway was id'd in another state all we can do is just hope and pray she and the kids are identified. Been far too long
     
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  4. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Cousin Dupree and spike like this.
  5. The Coffeenator

    The Coffeenator Fluent in crapanese

    That is the same article I am referring to in post #220, #223, and #226. The quote in the article where dr. Rae-Venter talks about the identification of the adult A4 victim (not to be confused with Elizabeth Lamotte! They are two different cases!) has been edited since I first posted the said article, and the quote in question has been retracted. If the discussion in another forum is to be believed, it's because the family of the alleged identified A4 victim wants to keep a low profile and let LE do their job. I believe the journalist on this article simply wrote this without getting the green light from LE about publishing it in the first place, and then had to do some serious backtracking later.
    I hope this clears up the confusion.
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2019
  6. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    It does! Thank you very much because I was really curious about what was going on.
     
  7. The Coffeenator

    The Coffeenator Fluent in crapanese

    Thank you, Kimster! I am really relieved to hear this! :)

    It seems like the confusion started when posters started bringing in prior discoveries concerning TPR, like the identification of Elizabeth Lamotte, other missing women who might be connected to TPR, and his paternal link to the middle A4 child. There are many threads and layers in this case, so you really have to be extra careful not mix them up with each other to avoid a mess of confusion like we just had. JMO.
     
  8. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    CONCORD, N.H. —

    Authorities are holding a press briefing Thursday afternoon about a case in Allenstown involving four victims found in barrels.

    According to the Attorney General’s Office, authorities will discuss efforts made to identify the unidentified homicide victims. An adult woman and three children were found in steel drums in the woods of Bear Brook State Park in 1985 and 2000.

    https://www.wmur.com/article/update...e-involving-victims-found-in-barrels/27757687
     
  9. The Coffeenator

    The Coffeenator Fluent in crapanese

    Three of the victims have been officially identified as Marlyse Elizabeth Honeychurch (adult), Marie Elizabeth Vaughn (oldest child), and Sarah McWaters (youngest child). Marylyse was Marie and Sarah's mother. Family last saw them Thanksgiving 1978.

    Middle child, fathered of Terry Rasmussen, remains unidentified.

    Link to the press conferance:
     
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2019
  10. ima.grandma

    ima.grandma Believer of Miracles





    A woman and two girls whose bodies were found in steel drums dumped in a state park in Allenstown have been identified, investigators said Thursday, but the identity of a third girl is still unknown.

    The bodies of the woman and three children were found in the woods of Bear Brook State Park in 1985 and 2000. Officials have said that the four were killed by Terry Peder Rasmussen, who was known as “Bob Evans” during his time in New Hampshire, but they were previously unable to identify them.

    Associate Attorney General Jeffrey Strelzin said the woman has been identified as Marlyse Elizabeth Honeychurch, and two of the girls were identified as her daughters, Marie Elizabeth Vaughn and Sarah Lynn McWaters.

    Officials have used DNA to determine that Rasmussen was the father of the unidentified girl, but he was not related to the other two girls. The unidentified girl was also unrelated to the other victims.

    "One of the goals is to locate the mother of that middle child and determine whether she's still alive," Strelzin said.

    Investigators said a researcher from Connecticut made the connection between a missing-person post on an Ancestry.com board and the Rasmussen case after listening to the NHPR "Bear Brook" podcast. The researcher, Rebecca Heath, was able to contact the person who made the post, and that person said Honeychurch had last been seen with Rasmussen.
    https://www.wmur.com/article/allenstown-barrels-bear-brook-murders-update/27784045
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    Renderings of the victims of an unsolved murder case in Allenstown.
    https://manchesterinklink.com/autho...-to-id-bear-brook-4-cold-case-murder-victims/
     
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2019
  11. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

  12. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Oh my gosh! Finally! I have tears in my eyes!
     
  13. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

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    Carl K's recon, too.
     
  14. Jason Futch

    Jason Futch TCCF Host, King of the Highway

    The NCMEC recon was almost an exact match to the adult female!
     
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  15. Redrover

    Redrover Well-Known Member

    Amazing. I really thought this one might go unsolved forever.
     
  16. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    Gotta get caught up just came home from work and heard!!
     
  17. KareBear

    KareBear Well-Known Member

    :skip:
    This truly brought a smile to my face seeing that they have finally been identified! May they rest in peace..:sleeping:
     
  18. Sunburst

    Sunburst Bronze Member

    Good news that 3 have been identified. Can we suppose that the mother of the middle girl is deceased, most likely another victim of the same killer? Why bother giving him more notoriety by mentioning his name?
     
  19. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    1977 (approx.): Bob Evans works at Waumbec Mills in Manchester as head electrician.

    February 1980: Evans arrested in Manchester as Robert T. Evans for issuing a bad check on 12/21/1979 (insufficient funds).

    May 1980: Evans arrested in Manchester as Robert T. Evans for theft of services (electricity).

    October 1980: Evans arrested in Manchester as Robert T. Evans for diverting electric current.

    November 1981: Denise Beaudin disappears from Manchester shortly after Thanksgiving with her 6-month-old daughter and her boyfriend, Bob Evans.

    March 1984: Evans hired under name Curtis Kimball by electrical company in Los Alamitos, Calif.

    May 1985: Evans arrested for DUI in Cypress, Calif. as Curtis Mayo Kimball.

    November 1985: First barrel found at Bear Brook State Park, Allenstown, containing an unidentified adult female (23-33 years old) and female child (5-11 years old).

    January 1986: Evans in Santa Cruz County, Calif., living and working at the Holiday Host RV Park in Scotts Valley under name Gordon Jenson.

    June 1986: Evans abandons Denise Beaudin’s daughter in California and flees.

    September 1986: Fingerprints match between Gordon Jenson and Curtis Kimball, confirming they are the same person (Bob Evans).

    November 1988: Evans pulled over in San Luis Obispo, Calif. under the name Gerry Mockerman, driving a stolen vehicle from Preston, Idaho.

    March 1989: Evans arrested in California on warrants from the child abandonment and sentenced to three years.

    October 1990: Evans paroled and absconds the following day in California.

    May 2000: Second barrel found at Bear Brook State Park in Allenstown, containing two unidentified female children (2 to 4 and 1 to 3 years old).

    June 2002: Evans’ girlfriend, Eunsoon Jun, disappears from Richmond, Calif.

    November 2002: Evans arrested for Eunsoon Jun’s homicide and parole violation.

    June 2003: Evans convicted of Eunsoon Jun’s murder and sentenced to 15 years to life.

    August 2003: DNA testing confirms Evans is not the biological father to the child he abandoned (Denise Beaudin’s daughter).

    December 2010: Evans dies in High Desert Prison, Susanville, Calif.

    July 2016: San Bernardino County Sheriff contacts New Hampshire authorities referencing Evans and his connection to New Hampshire.

    October 2016: DNA confirms Evans is biological father of the middle girl found in Allenstown in 2000.

    January 2017: Authorities announce they have enough evidence to determine Evans was responsible for the beating death of the young woman and three girls whose bodies were found in Allenstown and that he likely killed Beaudin.

    July 2017: DNA testing confirms Evans was actually Terry Peder Rasmussen.

    June 2019: Authorities identify three of the four Allenstown victims as Marlyse Elizabeth Honeychurch and her daughters, Marie Vaughn, and Sarah McWaters.

    https://www.unionleader.com/bear-brook-timeline/article_b862e15e-1158-5d53-8660-d651bbaf5de6.html
     
  20. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    I think it's important in this case because there may be more victims and people need to know the names he was using in order to find them.
     
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