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Amy Hall shoots her teen children in Beggs, OK

Discussion in 'Crimes' started by Skitt, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. Skitt

    Skitt Well-Known Member

    Mom shoots 18 y/o son (killed) and 16 y/o daughter (brain dead)

    https://people.com/crime/okla-football-player-sisters-shot-mom

    Eighteen-year-old Kayson Toliver was the first to be shot.

    The Beggs High School football player was asleep in his bed early on Thursday when his mother, Amy Leann Hall, allegedly fired a bullet into his head — then entered the bedroom of her 16-year-old daughter, Kloee Toliver, a junior at the same Oklahoma high school, and shot her in the head, too.

    Authorities say Hall, 39, then fired at her 14-year-old daughter who was in the same room with Kloee, grazing the girl in the head and neck area.

    The youngest daughter, whom police are not identifying, escaped to the bathroom where she was later able to convince her mother to turn over the gun, according to law enforcement.

    More at link
     
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  2. Lorelei2017

    Lorelei2017 Member


    Parents at war, kids caught in the crossfire
    Hopefully there isnt a trail 10 miles long showing how mentally I'll dhe was and everyone knew it
     
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  3. Skitt

    Skitt Well-Known Member

    These cases just astound me. She thiught she was "saving them" and planned to kill herself, too... isn't that what I read? Why can't they leave the kids out of their problems?
     
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  4. Lorelei2017

    Lorelei2017 Member


    Exactly, that is crap. Any true parent goes out kicking and screaming to keep their kids alive
     
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  5. Lorelei2017

    Lorelei2017 Member

    With the son's friend in the room? WTH?
     
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  6. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    That's what got me too. Can you imagine? This case is beyond crazy and I'm so very sad that Kloee's life support will have been turned off now (rightly) and the 14 year old has lost everyone. I hope she has a big support network around her :(
     
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  7. Skitt

    Skitt Well-Known Member

    This will be a memory those other two kids will have all their lives ... they will need a lot of support, as you said Dobrev. I hope we get updates, as I want to follow this one.
     
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  8. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    I keep thinking about the bravery of that 14 year old. To fight for her life like that and be able to talk down someone who was trying to kill you. I wonder what their life with their mother was like before? She lost her mother in a big way that day but had she lost her before this? What was her mothers attitude like towards them before this? They seem like a normal family. Kids pretty close in age, friends staying over. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary before this... I wonder what we will hear about this family, if anything.

    Between this and the Watts case... what a loss.
     
  9. Lorelei2017

    Lorelei2017 Member


    They were amazing kids by all appearances. MOO.
    yes, devastating losses
     
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  10. Skitt

    Skitt Well-Known Member

    https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/mother-shoots-kills-teen-daughter-while-sleeping

    Okmulgee County Sheriff's Investigator Duston Todd said in a news release that Kloee Toliver "succumbed to her injuries" Tuesday night.
    Hall is jailed on a first-degree murder charge in her son's death. Todd says another first-degree murder charge will be added in her daughter's death.
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    https://people.com/crime/okla-football-player-sisters-shot-mom/
    There was a four mile chase at high speeds, afterward, until her arrest was made.

    She first said she didn't know why she had done thusm then later said she was protecting them from an [unsubstantiated] abusive father (bitter custody dispute since 2016)

    court appearance on Nov. 29.

    From link:
    In a subsequent divorce and custody filing in June 2016, Hall’s ex asked to be awarded custody of the children, alleging Hall psychologically abused the children and filed false protective orders against him. He also said she had a diagnosed mental illness.
     
  11. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    I'm not buying the abusive father charge. It sounds like he has tried to help these children before. Maybe I am judging too early but, this is not how you "save" children. Also, she didn't give this reason at first. Sounds like she just came to that conclusion.

    What a messed up story. If these claims (about the father) are untrue, I hope they can be refuted soon. They don't need to be dragged down with that as well as the death of those two precious kids.

    Thoughts are with the daughter and her father. I hope they have a good relationship and she can be protected by him. She was brave enough to go against her mother and save herself, but she needs to be taken care of now.
     
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  12. Skitt

    Skitt Well-Known Member

    Every little bit I find makes me sadder. The father had custody approval, but it never was finalized. :sniffle:

    http://www.newson6.com/story/394010...ting-court-records-show-child-custody-dispute
    Documents show Amy and Gennardo Toliver have been in an ongoing child custody dispute over their three children. Last December, a judge gave both parents joint custody but ordered the father to leave the house. In March, the judge gave the father custody, but that order was never finalized.

    The mother told the judge a few weeks ago that unless she got custody immediately, the children would suffer great harm.

    Additional details re her allegations of abuse (unsubstantiated, I believe: father had a fight with son, was caught in bed with one) at the link
     
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  13. Kimster

    Kimster Administrator Staff Member

    This reminds me so much of Josh Powell killing his boys to keep them from their maternal grandparents. :( I don't believe the "harm" defense, I think it was the classic "if I can't have them no one can" motive.
     
  14. Skitt

    Skitt Well-Known Member

    So do I, Kimster. I can't even accept she had mental illness this time. unless I hear more, she was just pure evil.

    I assume the surviving daughter will live with her Dad. I just hope he gives her the love and support she is going to need. It will never leave her thoughts.
     
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  15. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    Yes I hope she has the supports she needs. I have no idea how I would get past that, as an adult with her own child. But, this is a child who just had to beg her Mom not to kill her after she had killed her siblings. I hope she fights through.
     
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  20. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    :puzzled::thud:

    I need to read more on this but this sentence "Following the crimes, she told police a stranger had attempted to carjack her and had shot the children" reminded me of Darlie Routier.
     
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