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GREECE BEN NEEDHAM: Missing from the Greek island of Kos - 24 July 1991 - Age 21 months

Discussion in 'Europe: Missing & Unidentified' started by Ladyslug, May 9, 2016.

  1. Ladyslug

    Ladyslug Bronze Member

    the BBC used to be the most trusted for news here but unfortunately so many places in the rush to get the latest scoop seem to be missing facts
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  2. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member


    “It shows more of a conspiracy because they didn’t find Ben’s body. That proves it to me without doubt they obviously moved him and buried him and for whatever reason dug him up. There’s no other explanation. It’s all been a massive cover-up.

    “This confirms what the police have been saying all along. My Ben was killed in an accident. But it also suggests that not only did they kill my boy and bury him where the toy car was found, they then moved him before police got to the site last October.

    OMG. This is outrageous.
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  3. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

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  4. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member


    Professor Lorna Dawson, head of the soil forensics group, said the team of scientists had discovered the "profile indicative of human blood decomposition on a fragment of a sandal."

    The profile had also been found on soil from inside a toy car, however, the stronger signal had been found on the footwear sandal, she said.

    Professor Dawson said the discovery was the "chemical finger print" of compounds left behind "when there has been decomposition or decay".

    "There's a strong indication from this chemical profile that this was present on those items as a result of blood decomposition," she said.

    "It's significant in identifying that there had been a human who had bled in contact with those items.

    "The biologist has to come in now and identify who left that blood on that item by extracting the DNA."

    I guess they decided, five years later, that they did have the sandal. they have found a "chemical finger print" that could be decomposed blood, but they don't know if it is blood or if it is Ben's blood. Did they suddenly find DNA to identify the sandal as the one belinging to Ben?


    The sandal was found in 2012 at the site where police believe Ben was accidentally killed by Konstantinos “Dino” Barkas who was operating a digger there. But the car was discovered at another spot late last year. There was no sign of the toddler’s body.


    Experts will now test the sandal and car to see if it contain’s Ben’s DNA. Kerry, of Sheffield, has provided a sample of her own to assist.

    Forensic scientists working on her son’s case found the decomposed blood on the items.

    "Twenty to 30 compounds. It’s that profile that is particularly identifiable as being human.” A specialist police dog used in the hunt for bodies reacted to the sandal sample.

    Prof Dawson added: “He didn’t react to the toy car but did to the sandal. There were less compounds on the car to detect and the sandal was very high. It was one of the highest samples.

    “Samples are now with the biologists who are trying to extract DNA, to see if it could be Ben’s. But the items are very old and very dirty. DNA could well be degraded. It might not be possible.”

    This report says they don't know if DNA can be found or if the articles are too degraded.


    1st October 2016
    Police show replica of Ben Needham's sandals worn on day he went missing

    South Yorkshire police have revealed a pair of sandals - they have had specially made - which they believe resemble the pair Ben was wearing on the day he went missing in July 1991.
    Officers approached a bespoke footwear maker in Kos who made the replica sandals as part of their investigation.

    Frank Harkness, Yorkshire and Humber regional scientific support officer said: "We know Ben's sandals were bought out here locally. These are sandals that are similar to an image of Ben on a moped that was taken shortly before he disappeared."

    Police believe debris they found in 2012 near the farmhouse could have been remnants of Ben's footwear but they were unable to get a DNA profile.

    Forensic experts will now try to match 'items of interest' found on Kos this week with that found four years ago.

    This says conflicting information and no DNA was found .

    I think the reporting is horrible. Some sources say testing is in the process, others are saying it's blood, and one source is saying there is no viable DNA. Now there is DNA. This is crazy. I feel so badly for Kerry Needham and Dino's family.
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  5. Ladyslug

    Ladyslug Bronze Member

    I agree this is horrible Kerry has had to put up with so much for so long maybe the police need to put out a full statement clearing up the different reports.
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  6. TripleA

    TripleA Zoo Keeper

    I really hope that answers and closure are finally coming for little Ben and his family.
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  7. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    I don't understand why they chose the anniversary of Ben's disappearance to release this information. They are treating this like it's some kind of a spectacle or celebration. It's a family and the life of a little boy. It's the reputation of Dino Barkas and his family. There are still many of us who think this second search with new accusations against Dino was the plan of those who had been suspicious because of the white Suzuki Alto. This has all emerged one year after Dino died. He certainly could be guilty, but this entire new search has been horrible. They are going to kill Kerry and her parents.

    When Ben first disappeared, Kerry couldn't get help from anyone. The only information they had was the white Suzuki. Kerry and her family spent years and every dime they had searching for Ben. The people on Kos were horrible to the Needhams. Years later, the British decided to help and they did the 2012 search. Supposedly they found nothing. Dino Barkas died and now there is an entirely new approach to Ben's disappearance. The evidence has changed and suddenly there is new evidence. My heart goes out to the Needhams. The people of Kos and the British police have made the Needham's nightmare a worse nightmare.
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  8. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    It reminds me of the Natalee Holloway case. It was handled so poorly! And a person can't get any resources in a country where they don't reside.
  9. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    In Kerry's book, Christine described the peaceful silence around the farmhouse. The neighbor across the lane described Ben playing next to the farmhouse. How did Dino Barkas and construction equipment suddenly become part of the scene?

    Needham, Kerry. Ben (Kindle Locations 1173-1177). Ebury Publishing. Kindle Edition.

    Across from where the lane joined the driveway stood the strange-looking villa. It wasn’t just high, it seemed to have been built back to front. You had to go round the rear to enter – as the police discovered when they decided to pay a call. An old lady Dad had seen once or twice answered. She confirmed that she had been in all day and had, crucially, seen Stephen leave on his motorbike. ‘Was the baby with him?’ ‘No, the baby was playing. Over there.’ She pointed to the back of the farmhouse. To exactly where Ben was last heard.

    Needham, Kerry. Ben (Kindle Locations 1301-1305). Ebury Publishing. Kindle Edition.

    As she reached the sharp bend in the lane, Mum eased her speed. She’d already covered more ground than she imagined Ben could have travelled in such a short space of time. The second she turned the corner she was confident her grandson would be in sight. He wasn’t. Mum stared again at the sheer unbroken nothingness of the unmade lane. There wasn’t an animal, a vehicle or a person to be seen. And definitely no sign of a little boy. Ben was only twenty-one months. It was inconceivable he could have made it that far,

    Needham, Kerry. Ben (Kindle Locations 1231-1235). Ebury Publishing. Kindle Edition.
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  10. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    It's exactly the same. Nobody helped the Needhams and the police were rude and useless. The local people accused the Needhams of horrible things and insulted them. There was a report that Xanthippi Agrelli's Suzuki was near the farmhouse with Xanthippi and two men when Ben disappeared. The closest British Embassy was in Athens and they provided minimal help. Kerry went back to England and continued searching for Ben, while she had a breakdown. Her father was sent to locations where there had been possible sightings because they could only afford one airfare. The family begged with tin cans in front of sports stadiums for search money. It wasn't until Madeleine McCann disappeared, sixteen years later, that the British government decided to help Kerry, too. The British did a search of the hillside in 2012 and reported that they found nothing. They did another search last year because a person from Kos suddenly came forward and claimed that Dino Barkas killed Ben with a digger. The reports about Dino took place one year after he died of cancer and Dino can no longer defend himself. Suddenly, the British police have blood in a toy car and a sandal from the 2012 search, with no DNA confirmation that the blood or car belonged to Ben. This entire thing is bizarre. This new breakthrough has been released in the midst of one of the worst earthquakes on Kos. Kerry currently lives in Bodrum, the other earthquake location. The British police have turned this into a circus show just like they did in Praia da Luz with Madeleine McCann. In Portugal they came up with sketches and witness statements they have done nothing with.
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  11. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    It breaks my heart that the Needhams were subjected to this in order to get money to search for Ben. They begged with cans for search money because the British government and police didn't help them. Now, the British police suddenly have lots of answers.

    With Mum and Danny I made dozens of copies of Ben’s wanted poster and a large banner saying ‘Help Find Ben Needham’. We packed those, a couple of buckets and a paste-table into Mum’s Capri, then at five o’clock in the morning of 16 August, all three of us drove to Knebworth Park in Hertfordshire and set up a little stand. Genesis were playing a concert there that day to an audience of 90,000 people. Even if a fraction of them walked past us, I was convinced we’d make some money. We did.

    Needham, Kerry. Ben (Kindle Locations 2528-2531). Ebury Publishing. Kindle Edition.

    A fortnight later, we set off to Roundhay Park in Leeds and discovered Michael Jackson fans were equally generous, so much so that when we discovered he was playing at Wembley Stadium four days later, we knew we had to be there as well. Driving down to London was a different proposition to going to Leeds. I’d never been to the capital before. The idea of spending three nights there was a bit intimidating, especially as we’d be sleeping in the car. We went down the night before in order to secure a prime position for the following morning. Ninety per cent of the fans would have to cross the ‘Wembley Way’ Bridge to reach the stadium, so that’s where we needed to be. When a security guard shone his light through the window, I thought we were in trouble. In fact, Mum explained what we were up to and the guy wished us luck and said he’d tell his overnight colleagues to keep an eye on us. When he returned a while later, I assumed it was because he’d been given new orders. He had … ‘I’ve just spoken to my wife,’ the guard explained, ‘and she says there is no way you’re sleeping in that car tonight. You’re coming back to ours for tea and a proper bed. I finish in ten minutes, then you can follow me home.’

    Needham, Kerry. Ben (Kindle Locations 2536-2540). Ebury Publishing. Kindle Edition.
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  12. Ladyslug

    Ladyslug Bronze Member

    I think one problem is police forces don't like stepping on foreign forces toes when they should in some cases be bought in straight away to help.
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  13. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    I agree with you @Ladyslug. I also know that most people don't understand how limited law enforcement is in some these small countries. There's a lot of corruption and law enforcement people who just don't know what they're doing. Some of these locations are fearful of bad publicity because their primary source of income is tourism. They will do anything to save their tourism money. I have lived in third world countries and it can be frightening. I expect more of the British, though.
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  14. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Ben Needham's mum shares moving tribute to missing boy on his 28th birthday

    The mum of missing Ben Needham paid an emotional tribute to him on his birthday.

    Kerry said on Facebook: “Happy birthday my sweet angel, my beautiful son. You would have been 28 today and I love you now as I did the day you were born.

    “I love you so much and one day you will be in my arms again.”

    She also placed a toy car – a replica of one found by detectives searching for the body last year – alongside a candle, a birthday cake and a photo of Ben at her home in Sheffield, South Yorks.

    Mum-of-two Kerry added: “Someone took him away from me. Please do the right thing and tell me where he is please.”

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  15. Whatsnext

    Whatsnext Well-Known Member


    "South Yorkshire Police said forensic examinations of the toy, which was recovered from the island, showed no match to Ben or members of his family.

    Det Insp Jon Cousins said it was still his "professional belief" Ben died in an accident at a farmhouse."

    So sorry for the Needhams:(.
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  16. MrsS

    MrsS Active Member

    Thank you for posting this. I’d missed this news. I really thought they had found something concrete when they found the toy. The grandparents identified it as a toy Ben had been playing with that day.
    I feel so so sorry for the Needhams. They seemed so close to finding some closure.
  17. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Mum of missing child Ben Needham fears he was dumped in oil drum in Greece
    April 2019

    The mum of missing toddler Ben Needham, who vanished 28 years ago, fears his body was hidden in an oil drum after he was killed.

    Kerry Needham recently met detectives who believe 21-month-old Ben died in a horror digger accident on the Greek island of Kos, in 1991.

    South Yorkshire police found oil drums near the farmhouse where he was last seen.

    A toy car like Ben’s was also unearthed on land used by digger driver Dino Barkas. No DNA was recovered.

    The mum of missing toddler Ben Needham, who vanished 28 years ago, fears his body was hidden in an oil drum after he was killed.

    Kerry Needham recently met detectives who believe 21-month-old Ben died in a horror digger accident on the Greek island of Kos, in 1991.

    South Yorkshire police found oil drums near the farmhouse where he was last seen.

    A toy car like Ben’s was also unearthed on land used by digger driver Dino Barkas. No DNA was recovered.

    Dino apparently made a deathbed confession in 2015, but Kerry says she is terrified a “conspiracy of silence” will stop the whole story coming out.

    “We deserve to know the truth,” she said. “We need justice.”

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  18. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    I suspect that performance served a dual purpose. It was a training exercise in search procedures for the police and it was a possible way to put a cold investigation to rest. Unfortunately, they didn't find Ben or any trace of him. It was so unfair to Ben's family and Dino's family.
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