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ID DEORR KUNZ: Missing from Lemhi County, ID - 10 July 2015 - Age 2

Discussion in 'Missing 2015 to Present' started by SheWhoMustNotBeNamed, Jul 11, 2015.

  1. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    I'll just never understand this case ...not ever
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  2. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Family and Friends Continue Their Search for DeOrr Kunz Jr. Two Years After His Disappearance

    Family and friends continue to search for DeOrr Kunz Jr. after he has been missing for the last two years.

    KPVI traveled to Timbercreek Campground on Saturday where DeOrr was last seen on a camping trip with his family two years ago.

    Friends and family gathered at the campground to continue their search for little DeOrr. They say they remember it just like it was yesterday, but two years later, still no answers.

    Lemhi County Sheriff, Steve Penner has a conversation with DeOrr’s mom Jessica at her campsite during the family search. He says he talked with her about an hour but could not share that conversation with KPVI, however, he did tell KPVI that none of the four adults have been cleared that were at the campground the day DeOrr came up missing.

    “I’ve said it this way many, many times, that there was four people there, their obviously, they would be people of interest to us and they have continued to be available and you know, if we have any questions or need to have an interview,” says Sheriff Steve Penner, Lemhi County Sheriff’s Office.

    The sheriff says over the last two years they have followed leads and eliminated some search areas. He says ‘Hope’ is what drives them to continue the search for little DeOrr.

    “That’s one of the reasons that we’re still working on it, because we think there’s a possibility that we can find him,” says Sheriff Penner.

    The Lemhi County Sheriff’s Office plans to have a larger scale search at some point when the vegetation isn’t as high.

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  3. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Vigil marks two years since DeOrr Kunz Jr. disappeared

    It's been exactly two years since eastern Idaho toddler DeOrr Kunz Jr. disappeared - and on Monday night, some members of his community gathered for a vigil in Idaho Falls in his honor.

    It's a mystery what happened to the then-2-year-old, who was reported missing while camping near Leadore.

    But investigators and family are still searching for answers, clues and closure.

    Dozens of people came out to the vigil at Freeman Park, showing their support for DeOrr, who today would be 4 years old.

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  4. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Remind me, was there ever another eyewitness account to verify Deorr was ever even there?
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  5. Steve

    Steve Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure that there was one that could be corroborated. There was supposed to be a store they had visited at some point. Maybe someone saw him there?

    But my impression is that it's possible (IMO) that he wasn't there. I'll have to review this one.
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  6. Steve

    Steve Well-Known Member

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  7. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Thank you so much for looking into this @Steve! I'll go with what the sheriff thinks, but keeping my mind open to all possibilities.
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  8. patsella

    patsella Bronze Member

    I keep going back and forth between little Deorr being taken by someone known to him to he walked off and got lost.

    I don't believe he was attacked by a wild animal or a stranger abducted him. The one scenario of stranger abduction
    is that the child walked off and encountered someone in the forested area who had hiked in from another direction.

    I'm not sure he was there in the first place except I don't know how 4 people could keep their stories straight for
    this long. They all say he was there IIRC.

    I hope he is found, very sad.
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  9. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    @patsella! So good to see you! :happydance:
  10. patsella

    patsella Bronze Member

    Thank you. :)
    Good to be back.
  11. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    DeOrr Kunz investigation continues

    Lemhi County Sheriff Steve Penner says an investigation into the disappearance of two and a half-year-old DeOrr Kunz on July 10, 2015, is still active.

    The statement comes as a new Investigation Discovery television program is set to air Monday night.

    While there are several theories as to what may have happened to him, Penner said none of those theories have been confirmed by his office. In a statement issued Monday Penner said, "Our investigators continue to work diligently to explore all possibilities. We can't afford to close any doors or to let frustration drive the investigation in any single direction."

    Penner said it is "imperative" for the public to understand that the Lemhi County Sheriff's Office is the lead law enforcement agency in the case. He said the office does receive assistance, at its request, from the Bonneville County Sheriff's Office and the FBI, private investigators and others do not speak for the sheriff's office.

    He stressed that official statements and facts regarding the case only come from the Lemhi County Sheriff's Office.


    [​IMG] [​IMG]
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  12. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    I worked late but the TV was on and ready for me with the show on. This case is still as mind boggling as it was from day 1
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  13. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Private investigator Philip Klein withdraws from DeOrr Kunz case

    Philip Klein and his private investigation firm KIC Texas have formally withdrawn from the DeOrr Kunz Jr. missing persons case.

    Klein was later fired by the family, but continued to investigate the case after being rehired by another unknown family member.

    On Monday, Klein issued the following statement to the media about his reasons for the withdrawal. He declined to elaborate beyond the statement, saying “it speaks for itself.”

    On Monday, November 13, 2017, KIC Texas provided formal notice to Steve Penner, Lemhi County Sheriff, that we would be withdrawing from the DeOrr Kunz case effective immediately. I would like to make the reasons for withdrawal very clear for the media and the general public:
    • We believe KIC Texas can no longer move this case forward. It is our firm belief that until truthfulness comes from the persons that we, as well as law enforcement, have named as suspects, there is nothing further to investigate. All evidence leads to the death of Deorr Kunz, Jr., we do not believe a kidnapping or animal attack occurred — and all evidence supports this finding.
    • We believe charges should be filed on the parents for child endangerment, at a minimum. We publicly ask the District Attorney of Lemhi County to strongly consider this charge.
    • We have recently become aware that Vernal DeOrr Kunz and his father Dennis Kunz have filed another lawsuit against our firm. This suit, as well as the misinformation campaign by certain social media trolls, appears to be a coordinated effort to impede the investigation. We are unable to continue our efforts in this case while simultaneously defending against a suit of this nature. As we have said: “The Truth Is The Ultimate Defense.”

    We would like to publicly thank the citizens of Idaho for their open hearts and minds. We thank the businesses that offered us food, shelter and warm wishes. We thank the family members of Baby DeOrr who have pure and clean hearts, and have helped us understand the parent’s dysfunctional family dynamic.

    We would also like to thank the many who we have interviewed. You are in great hands with Lemhi County Sheriff Penner, Bonneville County Sheriff, and the FBI. We believe Deorr Kunz, Jr. will be found one day.

  14. noZme

    noZme Bronze Member

    Copied from SheWho's post above:


    ."...until truthfulness comes from the persons that we, as well as law enforcement, have named as suspects, there is nothing further to investigate. All evidence leads to the death of Deorr Kunz, Jr., we do not believe a kidnapping or animal attack occurred — and all evidence supports this finding.
    • We believe charges should be filed on the parents for child endangerment, at a minimum. We publicly ask the District Attorney of Lemhi County to strongly consider this charge."
  15. Imamazed

    Imamazed Lead Administrator Staff Member

    Wasn't sure if this was posted or not...


    People Magazine Investigates: What Happened to 2-Year-Old DeOrr Kunz, Who Vanished in Idaho Woods?

    The campout in a remote patch of the Idaho mountains promised a fun time for 2-year-old DeOrr Kunz, who went on vacation with his parents, grandfather and his grandfather’s friend.

    With the assurance that “Grandpa Bob” Walton would keep an eye on him, DeOrr’s mom, Jessica Mitchell, and father, who is also named DeOrr Kunz but also goes by Vernal, walked off from the campsite to go fishing on July 10, 2015 — but when the boy’s dad returned, the son they lovingly called “Little Man” was nowhere to be found.

    More than two years later, the enduring mystery of what happened to the still-lost little boy is the focus of tonight’s episode of People Magazine Investigates, which airs at 10 p.m. ET on Investigation Discovery.

    After DeOrr’s parents called 911, law enforcement believed the boy had wandered into the woods surrounding the Timber Creek campground, outside of small-town Leadore, Idaho, about 130 miles northwest of Idaho Falls.
  16. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    In These States, Missing Persons Cases Are Piling Up

    Idaho comes in as third for the state with the most acres of wilderness, with a total of 4.8 million acres of trees and wildlife. That surely has something to do with Idaho having such a high number of missing persons. Every few days another person is added to a Facebook page devoted to Idaho missing persons. Fortunately, some of the people are found safe, and the page is updated to reflect that.

    One of many who have disappeared into the Idaho wilderness over the years was a toddler named DeOrr Kunz Jr., who was on a family camping trip that turned tragic. At first, there was confusion when DeOrr Kunz Jr. couldn’t be found by his parents at Idaho’s Timbercreek Campground. They had initially thought he was nearby with his grandfather. Authorities were called, and a search ensued, bringing up no results. No evidence of an abduction or animal attack was ever found. Fingers have been pointed at the child’s parents, who have denied any wrongdoing and who continue to search for their son. The toddler’s whereabouts remain unknown to this day.

  17. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Gone without a trace: What happened to DeOrr Kunz? | Little Man Lost episode 1

    This the first episode of the 6-part KTVB exclusive series "Little Man Lost." Find out the three theories on how DeOrr Kunz disappeared and why two different teams of private investigators are quitting the case in the video.


    DeOrr's family turns on each other when questioned | Little Man Lost episode 2

    In interviews conducted after DeOrr’s disappearance, one thing became abundantly clear to the investigators. Someone wasn't telling the truth.

    See the raw footage and decide for yourself in the video.


    Bizarre behavior by a family friend puts the blame on Isaac | Little Man Lost episode 3

    Four people were on the camping trip when two-year-old DeOrr Kunz Jr. vanished in 2015. His mother, father, great grandfather and the odd man out, Isaac Reinwand.

    As the search for answers became more desperate, the family all started pointing the finger at Isaac. Hear what Isaac himself had to say about the accusations in episode three.


    Suspects named in disappearance of DeOrr Kunz | Little Man Lost episode 4

    In January 2016 the Lemhi County Sheriff named DeOrr Kunz’s parents suspects in the toddler’s disappearance and declared the case a homicide.

    In episode four our six-part KTVB exclusive series “Little Man Lost” we trace back over what happened right after the toddler vanished, and how that’s impacting the investigation now.


    Why private investigators quit the DeOrr Kunz Jr. case | Little Man Lost episode 5

    Little DeOrr Kunz Junior vanished on a family camping trip in 2015. After months without answers, sympathy for the family turned to suspicion.

    In episode five of the 6-part KTVB exclusive series "Little Man Lost," find out why two different teams of private investigators are quitting the case.


    DeOrr’s mother talks about accusations against her | Little Man Lost episode 6

    Did he wander off? Was he attacked by animals? Or did something terrible to two-year-old DeOrr Kunz? No one seems to know how Little Man got lost on a camping trip. In an interview two years after he vanished, DeOrr's mother speaks about all the accusations against her.

    It’s the story that has baffled and divided our community. What happened to missing two-year-old DeOrr Kunz Junior?

    Our KTVB exclusive in-depth investigation traces over the last two years in a search for answers. In the final episode of the six-part series, hear what DeOrr’s mother now says about the disappearance of her son.

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  18. patsella

    patsella Bronze Member

    I thought it was a very good series on little DeOrr's case. Thank you for the links, well worth the time to watch.
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  19. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Community walk to mark 3rd anniversary of Idaho toddler's disappearance

    It’s been three years since Idaho Falls toddler DeOrr Kunz vanished while on a camping trip in Lemhi County with his parents, great-grandfather and a friend of his great-grandfather.

    There has been no sign of DeOrr since July 10, 2015, and nobody has been charged in connection to his disappearance, EastIdahoNews.com reported.

    DeOrr’s grandmother, Trina Bates Clegg, does not want her grandson to be forgotten, so she’s inviting the community to join her on a walk along the Idaho Falls Greenbelt on Tuesday night in his honor.

    "People say it gets easier with time, but it doesn’t. It’s been three years and it’s still very difficult," Clegg tells EastIdahoNews.com. "I want to make this walk all about him — nobody else. Just 'Little Man.'"

    Lemhi County Sheriff Steve Penner says there are no new developments in the case, but it remains "very active" and he is hoping for answers soon.

    DeOrr’s disappearance gripped the nation and the blond-haired toddler, whose fifth birthday was in December, was the focus of national news programs, magazines and documentaries.

    Clegg will be wearing baby blue colored clothing in DeOrr’s honor. She invites the public to walk with her beginning at 6:30 p.m. near the restrooms on the west side of the Falls.

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  20. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    I did see the People Mag ID show on DeOrr's case.
    I am so glad the sheriff turned the heat up on the parents like he did. I was very open minded when his disappearance first happened. But not long after I just really did not like or believe either of the parents. I think they were neglectful, self centered, highly dysfunctional and chronic habitual liars.... wow I am a meanie huh? Sorry not sorry
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