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RUSSIA DYATLOV PASS: Mysterious death of 9 skiers on Russia's Ural Mountains - February 1959

Discussion in 'Europe: Cold Cases' started by Dobrev, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    Secret Soviet death rays. Yetis. Aliens. Just what did slaughter nine hikers on Siberia's Death Mountain in 1959?

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    The Dyatlov Pass incident (Russian: Ги́бель тургру́ппы Дя́тлова) refers to the unsolved deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural Mountains in the Soviet Union (now Russia) between 1 February and 2 February 1959. The experienced trekking group, who were all from the Ural Polytechnical Institute, had established a camp on the slopes of Kholat Syakhl in an area now named in honor of the group's leader, Igor Dyatlov. During the night, something caused them to tear their way out of their tents and flee the campsite while inadequately dressed for heavy snowfall and sub-zero temperatures.

    After the group's bodies were discovered, an investigation by Soviet Union authorities determined that six had died from hypothermiawhile the other three showed signs of physical trauma. One victim had a fractured skull; two others had major chest fractures. Additionally, another team member was missing her tongue and eyes. The investigation concluded that an "unknown compelling force" had caused the deaths. Numerous theories have been put forward to account for the unexplained deaths, including animal attacks, hypothermia, avalanche, infrasound-induced panic, military involvement, or some combination of these.


    More at: www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ered-hikers-Siberias-Death-Mountain-1959.html
     
  2. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

  3. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

  4. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    The group's tomb at the Mikhajlov Cemetery in Yekaterinburg, Russia.

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  5. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    This is crazy. I'm trying to think, as a hiker/camper, what would make me frantically tear my way out from my tent?

    Hearing a bear or other animal? No. You sit tight and possibly try to scare it away from the inside.
    Another human being? Unlikely. The middle of the freezing mountains isn't where I'd choose to operate as a psycho killer.
    If it wasn't for the "team member was missing her tongue and eyes", I'm 100% on the avalanche theory. Avalanche can absolutely cause skull and chest fractures. But there's almost always some evidence of avalanche. And if you're plowed over by one with enough power to crush your skull, you're probably going to be buried by it...

    I'd be interested to learn more specifics about their deaths and condition of the campsite. I'm gonna do some looking around this weekend.
     
  6. Whatsnext

    Whatsnext Well-Known Member

    There is a theory that the stove they used could be responsible for them first feeling dizzy, then panicking and leaving the tent the way they did. Dyatlov himself built it.
    But then again, why would they go so far away from their tent? This case is really baffling, here are some theories.(some are quite far fetched, some really crazy, lol)

    https://dyatlovpass.com/theories
     
  7. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    This is what I was thinking. Perhaps they were experiencing hypothermia enough to get dizzy. The incident about the missing tongue and eyes could have been a predator.
     
  8. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    Yes, and I wonder expect their tent to be completely buried if an avalanche had of happened too. Also, it looks like their ski's are completely up right, while the tent had come down by the time the campsite was found. I'm not sure that there is a logical explanation for this. Not without looking into some odd goings on.

    The fact that Dubinina was missing her eyes and tongue..... both freaks me out and makes little sense.
     
  9. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    Uhoh, I'm going down a rabbit hole whatsnext :p

    It looked like dyatlov and a few others were trying to return to the campsite as their bodies were found several hundred meters away from the tree. :dunno:
     
  10. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    Odd that whatever it was only took her eyes and tongue. I would have expected her entire body to be mauled. There were no other external injuries either that should have been caused by a predator.
     
  11. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    This is interesting: (from the wiki link up thread)

    On 12 April 2018 the remains of Semyon Zolotarev were exhumated upon the initiative of journalists of the Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda. Contradicting results were obtained: one of the experts stated that the character of the injuries resembled a person knocked down by a car, and the DNA analysis did not reveal any similarity to the DNA of living relatives. In addition, it turned out that the name of Semyon Zolotarev is not on the list of buried at the Ivanovskoye cemetery. Nevertheless, the reconstruction of the face along the exhumated skull coincides with the post-war photographs of Semyon, although journalists express suspicions that another person was hiding under the name of Semyon Zolotarev after the war.
     
  12. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    The placement and condition of their bodies, some found as far as a kilometer-and-a-half (almost a mile) from the tent and buried under four meters (13 feet) of snow, were odd — to say the least.


    Investigators found footprints in the snow of eight or nine people who were wearing socks, a single shoe or were barefoot. The footsteps led towards a dense forest but disappeared after 500 metres.

    The first two bodies, of two men, barefoot and dressed only in their underclothes, were found at the edge of the forest near the remains of a fire. The next three bodies — of [expedition leader Igor] Dyatlov and another man and a woman — were found between the fire and the tent, suggesting that they had been trying to return to the tent. Autopsies failed to find any evidence of foul play. An inquest concluded that all five had died of hypothermia.

    Two months later, however, the partially-dressed bodies of the other four members of the team were discovered in a forest ravine, not far from the first two bodies. They appeared to have suffered traumatic pressure or crush injuries, and the tongue of one had been ripped out. Otherwise there were no external injuries, but tests conducted on their bodies and clothing showed small traces of radiation.


    Why, for example, did the skiers flee the relative safety of the tent? Why did they leave their belongings (including warmer clothing) behind? Why did some of them simply freeze to death, while others showed signs of internal trauma? Who or what removed the tongue of one of the victims? Why were there traces of radiation on their clothing?


    Moreover, the crushing weight of the four meters of snow under which the last four bodies in the Dyatlov group were found — possibly deposited there by an avalanche — could account for their internal injuries.

    You may object that an avalanche doesn’t explain everything — the radioactivity found on some of the bodies, for example. Granted. But neither does a Yeti attack, a Kármán vortex street, nor, given that we don’t even have proof that they were in the vicinity when the skiers met their fate, unidentified flying balls of fire.

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/12/28/dyatlov-pass-incident/
     
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  13. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    I'm not a very superstitious person, but hiking/skiing from DEATH MOUNTAIN to Gora Otorten (which means “DON'T GO THERE” in Mansi).... well ****.

    There are some post-mortem photos in this YouTube video. Don't watch if you don't want to see that. Interesting info tho.

     
  14. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

  15. Mel70

    Mel70 Bronze Member

    I agree, little makes SENSE here. It almost seems like the makings of a "Horror Movie". 1982'S "The Thing" comes to Mind. Where "The Thing" is HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT. SO 1st Theory. Aliens. O.K. THEN. 2nd. Killer, seems unlikely that someone would be in the Mountains looking for Victims. 3rd. This "Theory" I'VE HEARD MENTIONED.... HA HA! "THE ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN :floorlaugh:4th. They stumbled across SOMETHING that was of "Government" SECRECY.BUT WHY THE STRANGE HAPPENINGS UP TO THEIR DEATHS AND TO BE KILLED IN SUCH A BRUTAL WAY?! I tend to believe the LAST THEORY, BUT CONVINCED OF NONE.
     
  16. Mel70

    Mel70 Bronze Member


    YEAHHHH... NOT only would I NOT MAKE A TREK LIKE THIS, But if I did... HEY?! YOU WANNA GO TO?... :yess:NOPE!!!! BYYEEEE!!!!
     
  17. Dobrev

    Dobrev Well-Known Member

    Russia reopens investigation into 60-year-old Dyatlov Pass mystery

    Some 75 theories have been put forward, according to the prosecutor's office -- including an alien abduction. Another suggests they were killed by members of the Mansi people, for whom the mountains were spiritually symbolic. Still others claimed the scene was staged in order to cover up details of a secret weapons testing program.
    However the new inquiries will only investigate three theories considered the "most likely ones."
    "All of them are somehow connected with natural phenomena," said AlexanderKurennoi, the official representative of Russia's Prosecutor General.
    "Crime is out of the question," he said, adding: "There is not a single proof, even an indirect one, to favor this (criminal) version. It was either an avalanche, a snow slab or a hurricane."
    "Relatives, the media and the public still ask prosecutors to determine the truth and don't hide their suspicions that something was hidden from them," Kurennoi said in a video posted on an official website.
    Appearing at a press conference, a spokesman for the prosecutor's office for the Sverdlovsk region revealed a 400-page volume of original case materials.

    AndreyKuryakov told the news conference that investigators were relying on the help of "friends and family of the deceased" as well as modern technology, which was not available at the time.

    Also at the press conference was Petr Bartolomey, a friend of Dyatlov. He said: "A year prior (to the incident), we went to the Subpolar Urals in an expedition, where the conditions were much more difficult than his last venture. I have always characterized him as a wonderfully knowledgeable person, an athlete, always well-prepared ... One could always rely on him.

    “I can say the same for the rest of the guys, although we did not go on as many expedition(s) as with Igor. I am glad that, years after, a high-level investigation is resumed to understand what exactly happened."
    Nextmonth prosecutors will fly to the site, and a range of experts and rescue workerswill be involved in the investigation. Experts will conduct nine different examinations, including a forensic probe, which will help to fill in "a number of blank spots," Kurennoi added.


    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/04/europe/dyatlov-pass-incident-scli-intl/index.html
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2019

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