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UK ELSIE FROST: Teenager murdered in Wakefield, West Yorkshire - 1965

Discussion in 'Europe: Cold Cases' started by Kimster, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Who killed young teenager Elsie Frost and WHY?


    One minute she was walking happily alongside a canal towpath in her bright red jacket, floral skirt and new shoes. The next, school prefect Elsie was crawling in the mud, bleeding from stab wounds to her back and head.

    The horrific events that Saturday afternoon in Wakefield, West Yorkshire, left scars on the close-knit community: Elsie’s parents, railway worker Arthur and his wife Edith, died without seeing anyone brought to justice for their youngest daughter’s murder, an innocent man had his reputation destroyed while neighbours and friends were left doubting each other for decades.

    Now, curiously, a decision has been taken by someone, somewhere deep in the British justice system, to seal until 2060 the case files relating to Elsie’s murder which are at the National Archives in Kew.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ly-linked-Yorkshire-Ripper.html#ixzz3fiS9RE4x
  2. hopeangel

    hopeangel New Member

    once again tragic case of a young life been taken away to soon, and im wondering as to why case files have been sealed till 2060, what are police hiding?
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  3. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    That's what I'd like to know! What's the difference??? What ARE they hiding here?
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  4. hopeangel

    hopeangel New Member

    exactly its happened with a few cases in uk anyway, or there has been injunctions taken out by police to stop people talking
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  5. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    It doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't we WANT to talk about a cold case? I mean, this one appears to be freezing cold!
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  6. Lily

    Lily Bronze Member

    2060! How extremely strange.... It really does make you wonder why somebody would do that.

    Who knows, perhaps a judge's son was a little too close to the case for comfort, or something like that. Poor Elsie, but really moreso her family, all these years past and no justice, no answers. Hopefully, there'll be some soon.

    Back & head.. sounds like a vicious blitz attack. They left her alive, too, so they weren't taking their time to make sure she was dead. Doesn't sound like an experienced, dedicated killer to me.

    Could be a case of psychotic jealousy?

    Looking forward to reading more about this case.
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  7. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Elsie Frost's siblings force police to reopen murder investigation
    Oct 2015

    The brother and sister of a teenager murdered 50 years ago in Yorkshire have forced police to open a new investigation into the killing.

    Half a century on, Elsie’s elder sister, Anne Cleave, and brother, Colin Frost, who was just six when she was killed, have persuaded West Yorkshire police to reinvestigate the case. The siblings said they were determined not to go to their graves without knowing who was responsible.


    100 new lines of enquiry in Elsie Frost historic murder case
    Jan 2016

    Police investigating the historic murder of Wakefield teenager Elsie Frost are progressing 100 new lines of enquiry following a highly encouraging response from residents.

    The Homicide and Major Enquiry Team have thanked residents for their support after receiving 40 calls since the launch of a major reinvestigation into the death of the 14-year-old on October 9,1965.

    One new report of a sighting of someone of interest was of a man described as in his early 20's, slim to medium build, with dark hair and wearing a duffel coat.

    The Homicide and Major Enquiry Team have issued a picture of a police officer wearing the type of duffel coat believed to have been worn by a man seen near scene of Elsie’s murder and in the surrounding area on the afternoon of the offence.


  8. Ladyslug

    Ladyslug Bronze Member


    A man in his 70s has been arrested on suspicion of the murder of a schoolgirl more than 50 years ago.

    The police investigation into the death of Elsie Frost, 14, in West Yorkshire in 1965 was re-opened last year after a series of reports on BBC Radio 4.

    Police say a 78-year-old man was held in Berkshire. The BBC understands his name is Peter Pickering.

    Elsie was stabbed to death in a tunnel beneath a railway line in Wakefield on 9 October 1965.

    She had been on her way home from her school's sailing club, close to the River Calder and the Calder and Hebble Canal.

    A large police operation followed. The area was searched for the murder weapon, which was never found and hundreds of people were interviewed but no-one was ever convicted of her murder.
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  9. Lily

    Lily Bronze Member

    OMG!!!! This is SUCH GOOD NEWS! Thanks @Ladyslug for posting that, it's made my day.
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  10. Lily

    Lily Bronze Member

    A story on Pickering from 2010... incredible that monsters like this are EVER released.. and look what *inevitably* happens when they are. :(

    Child sex killer Peter Pickering could be set for release

    A child sex killer jailed indefinitely for his vile crimes has been secretly moved to a low security hospital ready for his release.

    Evil Peter Pickering, 73, could be freed within six months after he was transferred from a top security hospital to a softer unit run by The Priory group.

    Pickering, dubbed the Beast of Wombwell, snatched 14-year-old Shirley Ann Boldy on her way home from school in 1972.

    He bound, raped and hacked her to death with a kitchen knife in a seven-hour orgy of violence in the South Yorkshire town.

    The frenzied attack came just five months after Pickering was released from a nine year jail sentence for sexual assaults on two girls.

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  11. Lily

    Lily Bronze Member

    From 1996:

    IN FEAR OF THE FIEND; Parents' fury over day trips for child sex killer.

    Fears mounted last night as a child sex killer ordered to be caged indefinitely was allowed back on the streets.

    Maniac Peter Pickering raped, strangled and butchered 14-year-old Shirley Boldy after being freed from jail for assaulting youngsters.

    Despite a massive campaign to keep the 59-year-old pervert locked up, doctors are letting him out on day trips to shopping centres under escort.

    Now Shirley's horrified parents - Norman and Edna - MPs and crime victim groups fear the brute could soon be freed, and may still be a danger.

    Told the grim news by the Mirror stunned Norman, of Wombwell, South Yorks, said: "When Pickering was locked up, the judge said it should be indefinitely.

    "I can't dictate that he is never freed. But I hope he can justify the confidence doctors have in him."

    Veteran Tory MP Dame Jill Knight added: "I greatly regret the total lack of sensitivity of those who have sanctioned this man's freedom.

    "These doctors who say he is safe to release, even under supervision, have a terrible responsibility. I hope they realise it."

    Pickering, dubbed the Beast of Wombwell, was sent to mental hospital in 1972 for manslaughter with diminished responsibility.

    He snatched Shirley as she walked to her home. Then, in a seven-hour orgy of violence, he bound and raped her before hacking her with a kitchen knife.

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  12. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

  13. Ladyslug

    Ladyslug Bronze Member

    Elsie Frost 1965 murder: Re-arrest over schoolgirl killing

    A man has been arrested for a second time in connection with the killing of a schoolgirl more than 50 years ago.

    The 79-year-old was held on Monday on suspicion of murdering 14-year-old Elsie Frost in October 1965.

    Elsie was stabbed to death in a tunnel beneath a railway line in Wakefield

    The BBC understands the arrested man is Peter Pickering, who was first questioned in connection with the murder in 2016. He was arrested near Newbury, in Berkshire.

  14. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Thank you for the update, @Ladyslug! I hope for justice in this case!
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  15. Lily

    Lily Bronze Member

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  16. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    That infuriates me too, @Lily! What's to say they won't want to get a "sick thrill" one last time before going to the big house? :mad:
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  17. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Elsie Frost murder: Family can apply for fresh inquest
    December 2018

    The family of a 14-year-old girl who was murdered in 1965 has been given the right to apply for a fresh inquest after her suspected killer died.

    Elsie Frost was killed as she walked home in West Yorkshire, and there were no successful prosecutions over her murder.

    Convicted child murderer Peter Pickering was expected to be charged, but died in March.

    The Attorney General said there is "new evidence" a 1966 inquest did not hear.

    Attorney General Geoffrey Cox QC said: "Having considered the application, I have given consent to the family of Elsie Frost to apply to the High Court for a new inquest into her death.

    "I am satisfied that there is new evidence available that was not put before the previous inquest, and I believe that it is in the interests of justice for the application for a new inquest to be heard by the High Court."

    Colin Frost, who was six years old when his sister died, previously said: "There's a huge amount of emotion for us a family, but the overriding one is frustration because we were so close to getting a result and that's been taken from us.

    "An inquest would allow the police to declare all the evidence they have against Pickering and also set the record straight for Ian Spencer's family."

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  18. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Police 'dismissed' key tip-off about main suspect in Wakefield schoolgirl's murder, report suggests

    The brother of a murdered Wakefield schoolgirl has said he was left 'angry ' after learning that police turned down a key tip-off about the man who became the chief suspect 50 years later.

    A recent High Court case was told that the name of Peter Pickering had been passed to Wakefield City Police by the Metropolitan Police via telegram just days after the death of Elsie Frost in October 1965, details which shocked her younger sibling, Colin Frost.

    However, it was understood that police ruled Pickering out of the investigation.

    Nobody was ever convicted of 14-year-old Elsie's death under the railway bridge near Horbury Lagoon, but a review of the case in 2015 led officers to name Pickering as a major suspect.

    He was already behind bars after being convicted of stabbing and strangling 14-year-old Shirley Boldy in Wombwell, near Barnsley, in 1972.

    Police said they 'strongly suspected' Pickering to be Elsie's killer, but the 80-year-old died unexpectedly in a secure psychiatric hospital last year before the case could be brought to court.



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