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ITALY EMANUELA ORLANDI: Missing from Vatican City, Italy - 22 June 1983 - Age 15

Discussion in 'Europe: Missing & Unidentified' started by SheWhoMustNotBeNamed, Sep 18, 2017.

  1. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Document raises fresh questions over decades-old case of missing girl


    The family of a teenage girl who mysteriously disappeared more than 30 years ago are calling for answers after a document uncovered by an Italian journalist has raised fresh questions about the case.

    Journalist Emiliano Fittipaldi claims the document shows how the Vatican spent 500 million lire, the currency used in Italy at the time, keeping Emanuela Orlandi away from the city state between 1983 and 1997.

    It lists a series of expenses related to lodging and other costs in London.

    The Vatican has strongly denied the authenticity of the document, labelling the claims “false and ridiculous”.

    Orlandi was 15 years old when she mysteriously disappeared on June 22, 1983. She was allegedly last seen getting into a large dark-colored BMW following a music lesson.

    The unsolved case has gripped Italy and the Vatican City, where Orlandi and her family lived. Various sightings of the missing girl have been reported over the years, along with numerous theories about her disappearance.

    “Of course, if it’s authentic the scenario is disturbing… It speaks about Emanuela being alive until at least 1997. In case the document is not authentic, it’s disturbing as well, because what was this document doing in the safe of the prefecture of the Papal Household. Is it false? For sure somebody put it in there on purpose,” she said.

    With the release of the document, Sgrò said she was renewing calls for the Vatican’s State Secretary to receive her and the family to discuss the issue.

    “We want the truth. We want some explanations. We want to re-open the dossier, we want verifications about the authenticity of this document. there are clues, places and dates, so there are elements to open again a dossier,” she explained.



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  2. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Girl ‘snatched by Vatican and held in London’

    Leaked Vatican documents show that a teenage girl allegedly kidnapped from a Rome street in 1983 was secretly taken by the Vatican to London and held there for years, the girl’s brother has claimed.

    Emanuela Orlandi, the daughter of a Vatican employee, went missing aged 15. Her disappearance led to theories that she was snatched by the mafia in an attempt to blackmail the Vatican, or by terrorists seeking the release of Mehmet Ali Agca, the Turk jailed for trying to assassinate John Paul II.

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  3. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    'Lured to her death by Vatican cardinal paedophile ring or kidnapped in revenge by Italy mobster?' Enduring mystery of girl, 15, who vanished on way home from flute class after Pope told family, 'She's in heaven'
    October 2015

    The mysterious disappearance of the 15-year-old daughter of a Vatican official is Italy's most enduring cold case.

    Emanuela Orlandi vanished while on her way home from a flute lesson in July 1983, and was never seen again.

    It sparked an international intrigue that has pointed to the Stasi, the Italian mob and even a Satanic sex cult among the cardinals.

    The teenager, the fourth of five children in a devoutly Catholic family, was enticed to meet her abductors with the offer of some work distributing leaflets at a fashion show for Avon cosmetics.

    In reality, the Avon job did not exist. No one has ever been convicted of her disappearance and no body has ever been found.

    The original theory followed by investigators was that she was kidnapped to secure the release of the would-be assassin who tried to kill John Paul II.

    But Vatican insiders have claimed that she died under the influence of drugs at a satanic sex party with prelates.

    Others insist she was is still alive and living secretly in a convent with the knowledge of the Vatican.

    When the newly minted pope met the schoolgirl's mother Maria at a mass in 2013 he shook her hand and said: 'Emanuela is in heaven.'

    Her brother Pietro, surprised, told the Pope: 'Until there is proof to the contrary, I live in hope that she's alive. And I hope you will help me find the truth.'

    But the Pope repeated: 'She's in heaven.'

    Two days later a third caller claimed that he and his gang were the kidnappers and were negotiating with the Vatican for the release of Mehmet Ali Agca, the Turk who attempted to kill the pope in 1981.

    There were more than a dozen calls between the kidnappers and the Vatican prime minister, the pope's number two, via a special direct line.

    The Vatican has always refused to hand the tapes of those conversations over to the courts or the family.

    MUCH MORE: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-flute-class-Pope-tells-family-s-heaven.html
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  4. I have read this story somewhere or heard about it from someone" I can't remember which one" I didn't believe it was true until now, it was also if I remember correctly the mother of the little girl worked in the Vatican (Quoting) and also (Quoting) that the mother believed the little girl was buried at the Vatican" it was stated" in the Vatican walls (Quoting)
    My heart goes out to her Mother" the family" I know" and feel" their pain everyday;"
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  5. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    I had never heard of this case before! It's very sad! :tears:
  6. This is from GoAskMee,
    Whoever you are" that posted under my post"
    (Quoting you ) l have never heard of this case before ! It's very sad !
    with a yellow face crying;".
    Will you please Delete It " I find it very cold hearted on your part;" this isn't a case !
    What this is really about !
    A family's pain searching for their loved one who was taken away from them before her time;" this is a pain that you don't which on anyone or want anyone to go through......!
  7. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Patricia... the poster above meant no harm at all. We often refer to missing persons as "missing persons cases". Calling it a case is not disrespectful. All of us here at Crimewatchers understand that there are very real people and real families behind every "case". We want all of the families to find answers about their missing loved ones.
  8. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Missing girl's family presses Vatican about found bones

    Lawyers for the family of a 15-year-old girl who went missing in 1983 pressed Italian prosecutors and the Vatican on Wednesday for more details regarding human bone fragments found in an annex of the Holy See's embassy in Rome.

    The find, announced late Tuesday, raised immediate speculation over possible links with the disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi, the daughter of a Vatican employee whose fate remains one of the Vatican's most enduring mysteries. The news agency ANSA reported that prosecutors were focusing on whether the remains could be linked either to Orlandi, who disappeared on June 22 1983, or another 15-year-old girl, Mirella Gregori, who went missing a month earlier in Rome, on May 7, 1983.

    "We are asking Rome prosecutors and the Holy See by what means the bones were found and how their discovery was placed in relation to the disappearances of Emanuela Orlandi and Mirella Gregori," lawyer Laura Scro said, adding that the Vatican statement "provides little information."

    The Vatican said human bone fragments were found this week during renovations of a room annexed to the embassy, and that Italian forensic experts had been asked by prosecutors to determine the age and gender of the body and the date of death. Experts say that could be determined in a week to 10 days, if adequate DNA can be extracted from the fragments.

    The Orlandi and Gregori disappearances have never been formally linked. The Orlandi disappearance is by far the higher-profile, with its Vatican links and many twists. The teen disappeared after leaving her family's Vatican City apartment to go to a music lesson in Rome.

    Over the years, her case has been linked to everything from the plot to kill St. John Paul II to the financial scandal of the Vatican bank and Rome's criminal underworld.

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  9. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Vatican Embassy Bones Were Not From Missing Girl: Source

    HUMAN bones found at the Vatican's embassy in Rome belong to a male who died more than 50 years ago, a judicial source said, dispelling speculation they might solve one of Italy's most enduring mysteries: the 1980s vanishing of two teenage girls.

    An almost complete skeleton and other bone fragments were unearthed last month during work on an annex to the Holy See's imposing embassy compound near Rome's famous Villa Borghese museum.

    The discovery sparked media stories suggesting the remains might belong to Emanuela Orlandi, the 15-year-old daughter of a Vatican employee who vanished in 1983, or to Mirella Gregori, another Rome teenager who disappeared the same year.

    However, the judicial source said DNA testing showed the bones were male, while carbon dating showed they predated 1964.

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  10. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

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    Missing teen's family: is she buried in Vatican cemetery?

    The family of a Vatican City teenager who disappeared in 1983 wants to know if she is buried in a cemetery on Holy See grounds.

    The Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera on Monday quoted from a letter that a family lawyer wrote to church officials asking that a grave in the Teutonic Cemetery in Vatican City be opened to see if it contains the remains of Emanuela Orlandi.

    The family has long demanded to see Vatican documentation about the enduring mystery.

    Vatican spokesman Alessandro Gisotti says that Vatican officials have received the letter and that "the requests will be studied."

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  11. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Vatican opens its own probe in decades-old missing girl case

    The Vatican has for the first time opened its own investigation into the case of Emanuela Orlandi, a 15-year-old Vatican citizen who disappeared in the summer of 1983.

    The Orlandi family's lawyer, Laura Sgrò, confirmed the probe on Wednesday. She told The Associated Press that "the Secretariat of State has authorized the opening of an investigation into a grave in the Teutonic Cemetery inside the Vatican," after an anonymous tipster indicated that people should look where a statue of an angel in the cemetery is pointing.

    The Vatican said on March 27 it was handling a request from the Orlandi family to reopen a tomb indicated by the angel.

    Interim Vatican spokesman Alessandro Gisotti said on Wednesday that "at the moment, I don't have any statement to make on the issue."

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  12. kdg411

    kdg411 Resource Mod

    Vatican opens probe into Emanuela Orlandi
    To see if tomb in Teutonic Cemetery might be hers


    A lawyer for the Orlandi family said "seeing that the Pope has decided to open the Vatican Archives for the Pontificate of Pius XII in 2020, we make an appeal to the pontiff to give us access to the dossier that regards the investigation into the disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi".
    Last summer the Orlandi family lawyer received an anonymous note saying "seek where the angel indicates".
    Investigations then led the family to think her remains might be in the tomb, which is pointed to by an angel on the cemetery wall holding a sheet saying RIP.

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    kdg411 Resource Mod


    The Vatican will open two tombs in a small cemetery next week as part of a search for a 15-year-old girl who disappeared 36 years ago after failing to return home from a music lesson.


    According to spokesman Alessandro Gisotti, the tombs will be opened on July 11 in the presence of representatives of Orlandi's family, Reuters reports.

    “After 35 years of lack of cooperation, the start of an investigation is an important breakthrough,” Orlandi’s brother Pietro told ANSA.


    “I don't want them to open this tomb to do me a favor, I want the truth to emerge,” her brother Pietro Orlandi said.
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