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UK Grenfell Tower Inferno - 27-story fire in London

Discussion in 'Europe: Crimes & Trials' started by fran, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    'Number of fatalities' confirmed as huge inferno engulfs 27-storey London tower block home to 600 residents as desperate families remain trapped inside
    • The blaze engulfed the 27-storey Grenfell Tower on Latimer Road in White City on Wednesday morning
    • Horrifying pictures emerged on social media showing massive flames licking up the side of the block
    • Desperate residents trapped high in the enormous residential tower were heard 'screaming' for help
    • Police are evacuating panicked residents and two people are already being treated for smoke inhalation

    Several people have been confirmed dead after a huge inferno broke out at a residential tower block in West London.

    Families were forced to 'beg for their lives' as they tried to escape the blaze, while several people are still trapped inside the 27-storey building as it teeters on the brink of collapse.

    More than 600 residents desperately tried to escape the flames as the fire broke out in the middle of the night, with many woken by the screams of others and the smell of burning plastic.

    Grenfell Tower in Latimer Road, White City, is currently 'lurching' to one side after a 'very, very severe fire' broke out in the early hours of Wednesday morning, with those inside claiming a fire alarm failed to sound.

    As residents flooded the streets outside the building, many spoke of members of their family or close neighbours being unaccounted for, as they were forced to watch on as their home and all their belongings went up in flames.

    One neighbour said he believed someone had jumped from about 10 to 15 floors to escape the fire, while there were screams of joy and a relief as a five-year-old girl was pulled from the flames by emergency services.

    Dany Cotton, Commissioner of the London Fire Brigade, said there had been 'a number of fatalities' following a 'unprecedented incident' that she described as the largest in scale that she had seen in her 29-year career.

    London Ambulance Service said 50 people have been rushed to five hospitals around the capital, while at least one resident is still stuck inside the block on the 11th floor, with firefighters desperately trying to reach him.

    Dany Cotton, Commissioner of the London Fire Brigade, said there had been 'a number of fatalities' following a 'unprecedented incident' that
    she described as the largest in scale that she had seen in her 29-year career

    The cordon around the block has been pushed back by police and homes surrounding it evacuated amid fears that the building could collapse in the densely populated area of London

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...no-West-London-tower-block.html#ixzz4jxZj7JN7
  2. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    OMG! Regarding the tower inferno in London. Here's a document given to residents after the building was renovated a few years ago.

    "The fire safety advice to Grenfell Tower residents was to stay in their flats unless told otherwise.

    A newsletter to residents published in 2014 said:

    Our longstanding ‘stay put’ policy stays in force until you are told otherwise. This means that (unless there is a fire in your flat or in the hallway outside your flat) you should stay inside your flat. This is because Grenfell was designed according to rigorous fire safety standards. Also, the new front doors for each flat can withstand a fire for up to 30 minutes, which gives plenty of time for the fire brigade to arrive."


    8:59a.m. London time update in part:

    Sterring said she saw the flames gradually wrap around the building: “at first the fire was on the opposite side of the building to us. The firemen moved is to the main road. We couldn’t really see flames but then the fire started on the front and it just started consuming the building.

    We could see people waving fairy lights and flags to show their position.
    At first people seemed calm but then you could see smoke coming out of the Windows. When they saw the smoke they started panicking.

    We saw people in the second top window of the tower. They were four people screaming and shouting and thenthe window went completely dark from the smoke and that part of the building was covered in flames.

    The worst thing was seeing people stuck and you feel so useless. You are just watching people probably dying and the feeling of not doing anything, you just can’t do anything...”


    Residents repeatedly warned of fire risk

    A resident group repeatedly warned of a fire risk at Grenfell Tower and claimed a major fire was narrowly averted after a power surge in 2013.

    The Grenfell Action Group says its concerns were dismissed by Kensington and Chelsea council, which owns the block, and and the local tenant management organisation [KCTMO], which runs the borough’s homes.


  3. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    IMHO, there's going to be heck to pay for this one!! :mad:

    'Nobody on the top three floors survived': First bodies are removed from Grenfell Tower as 12 are confirmed dead and dozens more are missing after huge blaze 'sparked by faulty fridge' engulfs the 27-storey tower block:vigil:

    • 12 confirmed dead and death toll will rise after huge inferno broke out at a residential tower block in London
    • Dozens including children and elderly still missing after fire engulfed Grenfell Tower in White City at 1am
    • Many residents believed to still be trapped inside the 27-storey building as it teeters on the brink of collapse
    • Residents were seen throwing themselves and their children out of windows to avoid being burned to death
    • More than 600 residents desperately tried to escape the flames as the fire broke out in the middle of the night
    • Surivors claimed there was no working fire alarm, sprinklers failed and the only staircase out was blocked
    • The London Ambulance Service said 74 people have been rushed to six different hospitals around the capital
    • Grenfell's residents warned landlord KCTMO about 'appalling' fire safety and say refurb contributed to blaze

    Police have said it is not possible to confirm how many people are unaccounted for because the building is still on fire more than 12 hours after it started

    The blaze has been described as a once in a generation disaster and could prove to one of the worst disasters Britain has seen in recent years

    Grenfell Tower is in one of London's most diverse communities and this group sit on the pavement outside a temporary aid centre nearby,
    some of whom were in tears

    The 27-storey Grenfell building, which was built in 1974 but refurbished last year, has an average of six flats per floor lived in by council
    tenants and a smaller number of private owners or tenants

    Grenfell's own community action group called for the tower to be pulled down four years ago over 'appalling' fire safety in the building and said today their repeated warnings to landlord Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO) fell on 'deaf ears'.

    KCTMO completed a £10million refurbishment last year and the new cladding encasing the block originally built in 1974 'went up like a match', one resident has said.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...no-West-London-tower-block.html#ixzz4jzya4dsY
  4. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    Live Grenfell Tower latest: Angry protesters stage sit-in at Kensington Town Hall, demanding answers

    Hundreds of protesters have gathered outside the Kensington Town Hall, asking for justice in aftermath of the Grenfell Tower blaze.

    Their chief demand is that victims are rehomed within the borough, and they have asked for funds to be given to those who lost their homes and belongings in the fire.

    There were shouts of "we want an inquest" and "we want justice" as the Radical Housing Network staged a rally outside the hall.

    Protesters held up placards and posters of their missing friends and relatives as they asked for answers.

    The confirmed death toll has risen to 30 but is expected to soar significantly, police have said, as anger mounts over a litany of failings that led to the disaster.

    As Theresa May stands accused of failing to show "humanity" during a visit to the blaze site, emergency services are picking through the west London block's charred remains in search of bodies for a third day.

    The Queen and Prince William have today visited a rest centre, with her Majesty at one point looking close to tears as she spoke to people affected by the blaze.

    read more ........... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/16/london-fire-latest-updates-grenfell-tower-fire-victims/

    The man 'whose faulty fridge started tower inferno': Neighbour reveals how Ethiopian taxi driver raised the alarm when deadly blaze started in his fourth-floor kitchen

    • Behailu Kebede raised the alarm as the Grenfell Tower inferno began to spread, his neighbours have said
    • Father of one, a taxi driver from Ethiopia, discovered the fire in his fourth floor kitchen ahead of blaze
    • Mr Kebede banged on a neighbour's door and alerted her to the fire, potentially saving many lives
    • Tower block resident Maryam Adam said he knocked on her door to warn her at 12.50am on Tuesday night
    • At 12.54am, a resident called 999 and the first engines arrived at the scene in west London within six minutes
    • After 15 minutes, most of the tower was alight, 30 minutes later the building was engulfed in flames

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4606078/Man-faulty-fridge-started-Grenfell-Tower-inferno.html#ixzz4kBIkBBhl

    Schoolgirl, 16, who escaped Grenfell Tower fire and immediately went to sit chemistry GCSE in her pyjamas reveals classmates brought her clothes, toiletries and money
    • Teenager managed to make it to school despite her home being destroyed
    • She sat a GCSE chemistry exam despite having been up all night during fire
    • The 16-year-old said her classmates bought her everything she needed

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...schoolgirl-brought-clothes.html#ixzz4kBIzM8Yo
  5. spike

    spike Bronze Member

    These poor people. Somebody needs to be held accountable. IMO.
    I read that the new aluminum cladding was highly combustible.
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  6. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    It only took about 14 minutes from when the fire started on the 4th floor until the fire raced on the outside of the building, circling around to the other side and being on the 17th floor!!

    14 minutes to go from 4th to 17th floor and wrap around the building. That siding should be illegal!!

    Peeps are really angry and I don't blame them a bit. Plus the instructions received from management a few years ago was stay in the apartment with the door closed until fireman got to them because the door was supposed to be fire proof.

  7. spike

    spike Bronze Member

    Babies and children thrown from 10 stories!
  8. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    Grenfell Tower fire: Anger over disaster turns to protest

    Theresa May faces cries of "coward" and "shame on you" after meeting Grenfell Tower victims, as 70 people are now feared dead.

    Anger over the Grenfell Tower disaster has spilled onto the streets, with protesters demanding justice for the victims and voicing their frustration over the handling of the crisis.

    Dozens of demonstrators stormed Kensington and Chelsea town hallon Friday afternoon holding placards and shouting "we want an inquest" and "we want justice".

    Several people appeared to clash with security guards inside the building before more than 20 police officers restored order.

    Police confront protesters outside the town hall

    Protest organiser Mustafa Mansour read out a list of requests submitted to Royal Chelsea and Kensington Borough, including a commitment for the "immediate rehousing of all the victims... within the borough".

    Hundreds of protesters also marched on Whitehall, with some chanting "May must go", bringing parts of London to a standstill.

    The crowd then began marching towards Kensington High Street.

    "We need answers and we need answers now," a man said through a megaphone. "This should not be happening in the United Kingdom, this should never happen."

    The PM leaves St Clement's Church in west London under police escort

    read more ............. http://news.sky.com/story/grenfell-tower-fire-anger-over-disaster-turns-to-protest-10918134

  9. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    Downing Street protest – Thousands of angry protesters march on Whitehall chanting ‘May must go’ while demonstrators descend on Grenfell Tower as tensions erupt over fire

    The angry crowd marched on Whitehall in the City demanding answers and voicing their frustrations at the Government

    THOUSANDS of angry protesters marched on Downing Street demanding justice for those affected by the Grenfell Tower inferno.

    The crowd of people carrying placards chanted “no justice, no peace” as they voiced their frustrations at the Government’s response to the disaster, which killed at least 30.

    Thousands of angry protesters holding placards calling for ‘Justice for Grenfell’ marched on Whitehall today as they demanded
    answers over the disaster

    People with placards reading “we demand an inquest” gathered outside Kensington and Chelsea Town Hall at around 3pm.

    But around an hour later, the crowd split into two – with one smaller group breaking off to try and get inside, while others remained at the bottom of steps at the building.

    The group later began marching towards Grenfell Tower, where people had gathered to voice their concerns over the handling of the crisis.

    Paul, 23, who was staying at his uncle’s flat in the block on the night of the fire, told Sun Online: “We want answers. We know there are more dead.”

    He explained that he had woken to the “sound of screaming children” at about 1.55am on Wednesday.

    Hundreds also gathered close to Grenfell Tower, where at least 30 people were killed in the early hours of Wednesday morning

    read more ............ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3818313/downing-street-protest-grenfell-tower-fire-london/
  10. Ladyslug

    Ladyslug Bronze Member

    This is so horrible, R.I.P to all the dead.

    I totally understand why so many are angrey
    The cladding is banned in several countries but not the UK
    And it comes in 2 types fire resistant and not they used the not it would have cost them £5000 more to use the fire resistant which may have led to the fire not spreading up the building in the way it didn't.
    It would have cost about £145000 pounds to retrofit the building for sprinklers.
    New builds have to have them.
    The minister who sat on the report from 2013 saying highrise residentual buildings needed sprinklers or fire suppresion systems earns more than that in a year.

    Sorry this has made me angry.
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  11. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    I know exactly how you feel Ladyslug.
    This is truly a tragedy of immense proportions!
    There definitely needs to be some heads rolled on this one!

    My sincere condolences to all involved.

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  12. spike

    spike Bronze Member

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  13. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    Grenfell Tower was OVER INSULATED with flammable cladding that went ‘over and above’ regulations to avoid a repeat job

    Developers behind the external refurbishment of the North Greenwich block used panels banned in the US

    GRENFELL Tower had MORE insulated cladding installed on the outside of the building than was needed to avoid having to repeat the job.

    A planning report shows the developers, hired by the Royal Borough Council of Kensington and Chelsea, insulated the 24 floor block more than was necessary.

    Residents claimed cladding on the outside of the building went up ‘like matchsticks’

    The Daily Express claims the document says that the developers behind the £8.6million refurbishment chose to “far exceed” the insulation levels required in order to avoid having to do the same job again in the future.

    The report said: “The proposed insulation levels far exceed those required by building regulations.

    “Insulation improvements may only happen once or twice in a building’s lifetime due to the complexity and disruption caused.”


    It added: “For this reason we are going over and above current building regulations to make sure the building continues to perform well into the future.”

    Experts said the composite foam sandwich panels helped spread the fire quickly from the lower floors all the way up the block.

    And material used in the cladding on Grenfell was the cheaper, more flammable version of the two available options, an investigation of the supply chain by The Guardian has claimed.

    Arnold Tarling, 55, of the Association of Specialist Fire Protection, said the foam “went up like matchsticks”.

    And he said the waterproof zinc coating made it even harder for firefighters to douse the blaze.

    He said: “They clad the concrete of this building with flammable insulation panels and rain screen cladding with a 30mm gap, which acted like a chimney.

    read more ...... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38238...-and-above-regulations-to-avoid-a-repeat-job/
  14. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    Revealed: the tower block fire warnings that ministers ignored

    Fire chief tells of repeated rebuffs by ministers as Theresa May admits Grenfell victims were let down

    The extent to which government ministers failed to act on expert warnings about inadequate fire safety rules before the Grenfell Tower disaster in London can be revealed by the Observer.

    As public outrage mounted and political pressure grew on Theresa May over the tragedy, former chief fire officer Ronnie King – who is secretary of the all-party parliamentary group on fire safety – said urgent requests for meetings with ministers and action to tighten rules were stonewalled.

    King also revealed that ministers had failed to insist that life-saving sprinkler systems were mandatory in the design of new schools in England, despite clear recommendations in reports commissioned by the government itself, which advocated their use.

    His criticism came as the prime minister admitted on Saturday that although the emergency services had been “heroic”, support for families of Grenfell Tower victims who needed help after the fire “was not good enough”.

    King, who was a chief fire officer for 20 years, said: “They seem to need a disaster to change regulations, rather than evidence and experience. It was the same with the King’s Cross fire and the Bradford City football club fire. They always seem to need a significant loss of life before things are changed.”

    He said that requests for meetings with former housing minister Gavin Barwell, now Theresa May’s chief of staff, were turned down. King said: “We have had replies, but the replies were to the effect that you have met my predecessor [the previous Tory housing minister James Wharton] and there were a number of matters that we are looking at and we are still looking at it.

    read more ............ https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/17/tower-block-fire-warnings-grenfell-victims
  15. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

    The Observer view on the Grenfell Tower fire

    Observer editorial

    Behind this disaster lies a brutal indifference to the lives of the poor

    The burnt-out ruin of Grenfell Tower. Photograph: Andy Rain/EPA

    The horrific images of people signalling for help at the windows of a blazing Grenfell Tower will remain imprinted in our collective memory long after the demolition of its charred remains. They lived in one of the richest boroughs in one of the richest cities in the word. Yet the state utterly failed in its responsibility to provide them with the most basic of protections. It continues to fail to provide the survivors and relatives with the assistance they so desperately need. This grim insight into the society that we share with Grenfell Tower’s inhabitants should shake us all.

    Official answers as to who and what was responsible will have to wait for the weeks, months and years of criminal investigation, inquest and inquiry to come. But it does not take a public inquiry to expose the shameful truth about Grenfell Tower. These were preventable deaths. We are a rich society that has created remedies for diseases once thought incurable and invented the world wide web. We know how to make housing decent safe and fireproof and we have the money to do so. The negligence that led to dozens of men, women and children, many of them poor, many of them migrants, burning to death must forever be a stain on our conscience.

    It falls to our national leaders to articulate this national sense of shame. Yet in interview after interview the prime minister has failed to demonstrate the compassion and empathy she surely feels in the face of the fury of desperate relatives still missing their loved ones. This matters. It is beyond belief that her response to this tragedy has been to evade even the most general questions about accountability by woodenly recounting lists of government actions. It is becoming increasingly untenable for her to claim she is in charge of the nation.

    read more ......... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/17/observer-editorial-grenfell-tower-fire
  16. MULDER

    MULDER Bronze Member

    A Panorama Documentary -
    Viewer discretion - there are some traumatic scenes, tears and heroes.

    BBC Panorama - Building of Flames: Britain's Shame (BBC Documentary 19.06.2017)

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  17. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Grenfell council faces charge of 'corporate manslaughter'

    British police investigating the Grenfell Tower fire have concluded there are "reasonable grounds" to suspect the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea (RBKC) and the council's tenant management organisation (TMO) may have committed corporate manslaughter.

    Chiefs from both organisations will be formally interviewed by officers as part of the criminal investigation into the tragedy that claimed at least 80 lives. The Metropolitan Police confirmed yesterday it had updated those affected by the fire.

    A statement circulated to those involved said an "initial assessment" of seized material and witness statements had allowed police to conclude that each organisation may have committed the offence.

    "We have seized a huge amount of material and taken a large number of witness statements," the letter to those affected by the disaster said. "After an initial assessment of that information, the officer leading the investigation has today notified Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea and the Kensington and Chelsea TMO that there are reasonable grounds to suspect that each organisation may have committed the offence of corporate manslaughter.

    "In due course, a senior representative of each corporation will be formally interviewed by police in relation to the potential offence."

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