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PA JONESTOWN JANE DOE: WF, 12-20, found in wooded area of Union County, PA - October 1973

Discussion in 'Unidentified 1900 to 1979' started by Kimster, Oct 16, 2015.

  1. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

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    LICKDALE — A theory by state police that remains found 42 years ago in a wooded area of Lebanon County could be those of a girl who ran away from a nearby home for troubled children was discounted when the woman was found alive and safe.

    On Friday, state police at Jonestown unveiled a bust of what investigators think the girl or woman looked like at the time of her death in October 1973 and announced they were looking for Betsy Langjhar, who was one of four runaways reported missing from what was Talbot Hall, now home to the Jonestown American Legion.

    Trooper Nathan Trate, currently the lead investigator in the cold case, said Friday that three of the four runaways were accounted for with the exception of Langjhar.

    However, on Tuesday, Trate said Langjhar has been located “alive and well” thanks to tips provided after information was released last week about the case.

    Over the 42 years since the gruesome discovery by state game wardens in an area off of Route 443, at the intersection of Ridge Road/Tomstown Road in Union County, numerous investigators have tried to identify the body of the female and determine how she died and ended up in the woods.

    Initial investigators determined the body was laying in the area where it was found between one and three weeks before being discovered, Trate said.

    No identification was found on the body that had been covered with brush and green plastic tarps.

    State police are asking that anyone with information on the identity of the girl or young woman, or on the circumstances surrounding her death, to contact Trate at 717-856-3647 or by email at ntrate@pa.gov.

    All information received will remain confidential and tipsters do not have to leave their names.

    Anyone wishing to remain anonymous can call Pennsylvania Crime Stoppers at 800-4PA-TIPS and reference incident L02-12591.

    http://republicanherald.com/news/woman-thought-dead-42-years-ago-found-alive-and-well-1.1958154

    http://www.crimewatchers.net/forum/...en-missing-over-40-years-in-pennsylvania.913/
     
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  2. Sunburst

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  3. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    I don't know how accurate the doe's recon is, but the nose in the recon looks very long and pointed to me. Rosemary's mouth and the doe's mouth sure look the same, however!
     
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  4. Jaws

    Jaws Active Member

    The nose in the recon looks more long and pointed than Rosemary's nose, but (if I am seeing it correctly) both Rosemary and the recon have nose's that slant a little to their right side. It's more exaggerated in the recon, but I keep looking at Rosemary's pic and thinking I am seeing the same thing. Am I just getting old and my eyes deceiving me?
     
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  5. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Oh yes I do see that!
     
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  6. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    vitals and info for this doe for immediate viewing on thread:

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    Images 1-4: Clay reconstruction completed by PSP Forensic Artist Trooper Mike Davis; Image 5: 3D facial reconstruction completed by a NCMEC Forensic Artist in December 2015 utilizing a CT scan of the female's skull; Images 6-7: Sketches from 1973.

    Date of Discovery: October 10, 1973
    Location of Discovery: Fort Indiantown Gap Military Reservation, Pennsylvania
    Estimated Date of Death: 1 to 2 weeks prior
    State of Remains: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction up
    Cause of Death: Undetermined

    Physical Description
    Estimated Age: 12-20 years old; most likely 16-20 years old
    Race: White
    Gender: Female
    Height: 5'6" to 5'8"
    Weight: Unknown
    Hair Color: Light brown to blonde to reddish.
    Eye Color: Unknown
    Distinguishing Marks/Features: Thin nose with the bridge swayed slightly left with the tip to the right. High forehead and a strong, tilted chin. No previous fractures.

    Identifiers
    Dentals: Available. Extensive dental work.
    Fingerprints: Available
    DNA: Available

    Clothing & Personal Items
    Clothing: None
    Jewelry: None
    Additional Personal Items: Unknown

    Circumstances of Discovery
    The victim's decomposing remains were discovered by Lebanon County deputy game protectors in a wooded area off Moonshine Road, or Route 443. The remains were not buried but covered with tree branches, brush and a 48"x32.5" piece of green plastic. A white seal on the plastic read "National Sanitation Foundation, Testing Laboratory 8505." According to records, such a testing laboratory did not exist.

    During the time of the discovery, four girls were reported missing from the area. All have been located. Investigators are looking at the possibility that the victim may have been from out of the area.

    Investigating Agency(s)
    Agency Name: Pennsylvania State Police
    Agency Contact Person: Criminal Investigator Nathan Trate
    Agency Phone Number: 717-865-3647
    Agency E-Mail: ntrate(at)pa.gov
    Agency Case Number: L02-12591

    Agency Name: Pennsylvania Crime Stoppers
    Agency Contact Person: N/A
    Agency Phone Number: 1-800-4PA-TIPS
    Agency E-Mail: N/A
    Agency Case Number: L02-12591

    Agency Name: Lebanonon County Coroner's Office
    Agency Contact Person: N/A
    Agency Phone Number: 717-272-4421
    Agency E-Mail: N/A
    Agency Case Number: L02-12591

    NCIC Case Number: U853401149
    NamUs Case Number: 12689

    Information Source(s)
    NamUs
    Pennsylvania Missing
    Pennlive.com
    Pennsylvania State Police

    Admin Notes
    Added: 3/25/08; Last Updated: 1/18/16
     
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  7. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    I really like Sandra Buck as a possible match as well and she has been submitted above. Another possible match that caught my eye (give or take an inch on height) is Sandra Hopler:

    http://www.nampn.org/cases/hopler_sandra.html

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    Above Images: Right: composite image to 55 years old.




    Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance


    • Missing Since: September 29, 1973 from La Plume, Lackawanna County, Pennsylvania
    • Classification: Endangered Missing
    • Date Of Birth: June 8, 1955
    • Age: 18
    • Height: 5'4"
    • Weight: 125 lbs.
    • Hair Color: Light Brown
    • Eye Color: Hazel
    • Race: White
    • Gender: Female
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Sandra has pierced ears,
      a small mole near the left side of her lip, and another mole on her
      right hand near her thumb. Glasses.
    • Clothing: Burgundy blazer, dark blouse, tan shoulder purse.
    • Jewelry: SEIKO gold face watch - new.
    • AKA: Sandy
    • Case Number: R1-7906
    Details of Disappearance
    Sandra was last seen at a bus stop in La Plume, PA on September 29, 1973. She had told her roommate that she was going to New York City for a visit. She was a student at Keystone Junior College at the time. She was a native of Essex County, New Jersey.



    Investigating Agency
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
    Pennsylvania State Police Department
    570-963-3156




    Source Information
    NCMEC
     
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  8. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    also Barbara Jean - bc of her height and bc of when she went missing being right at the postmortem interval. She hailed from NY. the original composit profile of a nose looks similar to hers. seems like there was indication of a deviated septum or one that looks that way.

    http://www.nampn.org/cases/aleksivich_barbara.html

    Barbara Jean Aleksivich

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    Above Images: Aleksivich



    Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance


    • Missing Since: October 3, 1973 from Bath, Steuben County, New York
    • Classification: Endangered Missing
    • Date Of Birth: March 18, 1949
    • Age: 24
    • Height: 5'6"
    • Weight: 140 lbs.
    • Hair Color: Brown
    • Eye Color: Hazel
    • Race: White
    • Gender: Female
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Glasses.
    • Clothing: White blouse, plaid blue and white skirt,
      green pullover sweater, brown loafers.
    • AKA: Barbara Jean Flanigan; Barbara Jean Jones
    • Case Number: 6020
    Details of Disappearance
    Barbara Aleksivich was last seen leaving Bath Elks Club on October 3, 1973.



    Investigating Agency
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
    Bath Police Department
    607-776-2175




    Source Information
    Namus
     
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  9. Sunburst

    Sunburst Bronze Member

    Rumors are flying on other sites that Lori Ruff, aka Lori Kennedy,aka Becky Sue Turner, aka the mysterious woman from Longview Texas , has been identified thru a DNA match on a DNA ancestry type site and may actually be Sandra Hopler.
     
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  10. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    wow really!? Sandra looks nothing like Lori though imho. what on earth! Wow that would be a surprise!!!!! :eek:
     
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  11. Sunburst

    Sunburst Bronze Member

    I didn't think there was much of a resemblance either.
     
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  12. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    LEBANON, Pa. (AP) - State police have exhumed the remains of a body found more than four decades ago in central Pennsylvania.

    Trooper David Beohm said the remains were exhumed Tuesday at Mount Lebanon Cemetery in Lebanon so that more DNA evidence could be obtained to try to identify the victim.

    A game warden found the remains in October 1973 under a green plastic tarp and branches in Union Township near Jonestown, about 90 miles northwest of Philadelphia.

    Authorities said evidence suggests that the victim was 16 to 20 years old and troopers believed that she may have been a runaway.

    Last fall, officials unveiled a reconstruction of a woman’s head and neck. Officials said tipsters sent them searching for a woman who might be the victim, but she turned out to be alive.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...c&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
     
  13. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

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    On Oct. 10, 1973, Lebanon County deputy game protectors found a naked female body in the area of what the locals called "Five Points" — a crossing of Moonshine (Route 443), Ridge and Tomstown roads in Union Township. She had been deceased several weeks. Without a name, detectives call her Jane Doe.
     
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  14. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12689

    NamUs UP # 12689
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    ME/C Case Number: L02-12591
    Lebanon County, Pennsylvania
    12 to 19 year old White Female

    Case Report - NamUs UP # 12689
    Case Information

    Status Unidentified
    Case number L02-12591
    Date found October 10, 1973 00:00
    Date created July 01, 2014 13:25
    Date last modified December 31, 2015 06:52
    Investigating agency
    date QA reviewed July 01, 2014 00:00

    Local Contact (ME/C or Other)
    Agency Lebanon Cnty Coroners Ofc
    Phone 717-272-4421
    Case Manager
    Name Carol Schweitzer
    Phone 703-837-6342

    Demographics
    Estimated age Late Teen/Young Adult
    Minimum age 12 years
    Maximum age 19 years
    Race White
    Ethnicity
    Sex Female
    Weight (pounds) , Cannot Estimate
    Height (inches) 67, Estimated
    Body Parts Inventory (Check all that apply)
    All parts recovered
    Head not recovered
    Torso not recovered
    One or more limbs not recovered
    One or both hands not recovered
    Body conditions
    Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction

    Probable year of death 1973 to 1973
    Estimated postmortem interval 1 Weeks

    Circumstances
    Location Found
    GPS coordinates
    Address 1
    Address 2
    City Jonestown
    State Pennsylvania
    Zip code 17038
    County Lebanon
    Circumstances
    An unidentified female was found in a rural area of Union Township in Lebanon County, PA on October 10, 1973. She was found several feet off a dirt road in between Tomstown Road and Moonshine Road (Rt. 443) which locals call the Five Point area. The female had been deceased several weeks.

    Physical
    Hair color Blond/Strawberry
    Head hair
    long, very light brown, reddish hair
    Body hair

    Facial hair

    Left eye color Unknown or Missing
    Right eye color Unknown or Missing
    Eye description

    No other distinctive body features
    Distinctive features as described below

    Amputations
    Deformities
    Scars and marks
    Tattoos
    Piercings
    Artificial body parts
    and aids
    Finger and toe nails
    Other distinctive
    physical characteristics

    Medical
    Medical implants
    Foreign objects
    Skeletal findings
    Organ absent
    Prior surgery
    Other medical
    information

    Fingerprints
    Status: Fingerprint information is currently not available

    Clothing and Accessories
    No clothing or accessories
    Clothing and accessories are described below

    Clothing on body
    No clothing or jewelry found with body.
    Clothing with body

    Footwear

    Jewelry

    Eyewear

    Other items found
    with body


    Dental
    Status: Dental information / charting is available and entered

    DNA
    Status: Sample submitted - Tests complete
     
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  15. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

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  17. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    http://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/02/jonestowns_jane_doe_given_new.html

    Jonestown's Jane Doe given new face in 1973 murder case

    By Megan Trimble | mtrimble@pennlive.com
    on February 09, 2016 at 11:51 AM

    A forensic artist has given Jonestown's Jane Doe a new face.

    Pennsylvania State Police investigators on Tuesday released images from a recently completed 3D skull facial reconstruction as an update in the 1973 murder case. The artist, with The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, completed the reconstruction to aid investigators trying to bring the suspicious death case to a close.

    On Oct. 10, 1973, a pair of Lebanon County deputy game protectors thought they smelled a poached and decaying deer, but, instead, found a naked female body in the area of what the locals called "Five Points" — a crossing of Moonshine (Route 443), Ridge and Tomstown roads in Union Township.

    Without a name, detectives call her Jane Doe.

    In 1973, a forensic anthropologist sketched what the female may look like, and police unveiled a 3-D bust in October to create a fuller possible picture of the victim.

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    1973 Jonestown Jane DoePennsylvania State Police


    Police describe the victim as a white female, approximately 16 to 20 years old, between 5-feet-6-inches and 5-feet-8-inches tall and with blonde or light brown hair. The body lay in the woods for one to two weeks before the discovery.

    State police at the Jonestown barracks continue to actively ask the public for any information regarding the identity of the female.

    Pennsylvania State Police Criminal Investigator Nathan Trate, the lead detective on the case, held a press conference in October to discuss the case. Trate said at the time that he thinks about the case every day.

    "I don't lose faith. I can't, not for her. I won't. I won't lose faith for her. Because I think that's what we all stand up here for," he said. "We have to give her a voice, we have to do everything we possibly can to try to figure this thing out."

    Tips?

    State police ask that anyone who may know the female or circumstances surrounding her death contact Pennsylvania State Police Criminal Investigator Nathan Trate at 717-865-3647 or ntrate@pa.gov.

    All calls will remain confidential, and callers can remain anonymous.

    Anyone wishing to remain anonymous can also call Pennsylvania crime stoppers at 1-800-4PA-TIPS and reference incident number L02-12591.
     
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  18. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2015/10/investigators_look_to_id_jones.html

    Investigators seek to ID Jonestown Jane Doe 42 years after naked body found in woods

    By Megan Trimble | mtrimble@pennlive.com
    on October 09, 2015 at 2:11 PM, updated February 09, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    JONESTOWN — Forty-two years ago, a pair of Lebanon County deputy game protectors smelled a stench coming from a wooded area at Fort Indiantown Gap.

    Poaching had been an issue in the area, so thinking they smelled a decaying deer carcass, they pulled their vehicle over in the area of what locals called "Five Points" — a crossing of Moonshine, Ridge and Tomstown roads. After a trek into the woods, maybe 200 yards off of the road, they noticed the smell grow stronger and something caught their eye. A foot.

    It was Oct. 10, 1973, and the pair had found a naked female body.

    Decades later, Moonshine Road is often called state Route 443, and locals around the Union Township area have largely forgotten the story of the unidentified body, but the area looks almost the same. The case has never gone cold, passing through the hands of a number of state police criminal investigators over the years, said state police Sgt. Mark Tice.


    "This case has never just sat on a shelf," Tice said.

    Most recently, it came to the attention of Trooper Nathan Trate, a state police criminal investigator, whose push led investigators to obtain an artist's rendering of what Jane Doe may have looked like at her death. On Friday, state police in Jonestown called a news conference in the hope that a new surge in tips may lead them closer to an identity in the troop's only unsolved murder case.

    "I think everyone in the community should want to know what happened to this woman, who this woman was. I think if we lose sight of that, I think we've lost sight of the bigger picture here, our own humanity," Trate said.

    Jane Doe

    Without a name, investigators have been left to refer to the body as Jane Doe. They've combed old reports to build a fuller description: a white female, approximately 16 to 20 years old, between 5-feet-6-inches and 5-feet-8-inches tall and with blonde or light brown hair. The body lay in the woods for one to two weeks before the discovery.

    In 1973, a forensic anthropologist sketched what the female may look like, but the new image, a 3-D bust, goes a step further. New technologies allowed an artist to take measurements, run them through formulas, such as bone density and skin depth, and create the three-dimensional depiction.

    Investigators do not know how the female died, Trate said, citing decomposition and an "undetermined" cause of death ruling listed in old reports on the case. Evidence of a sexual assault, while possible, was not noted at the time of the discovery.


    "I think about her everyday," investigator says of unidentified female"I think about her everyday," investigator says of unidentified female
    Trate brought fresh eyes to the case, as investigators went through each of the details — how the body was found partially covered by brush and under green plastic tarps or garbage bags with a stamp that read "The National Sanitation Foundation Testing Laboratory 8505," a testing laboratory that did not exist, according to records.

    DNA taken from the body was entered into the FBI's missing persons database, to be cross-referenced with missing persons reports and to clear possibilities. Investigators are testing all DNA saved from the scene for any other potential breaks in the case.

    They've met a number of investigative challenges, Tate said, from destroyed records to racing time and the possibility that witnesses have died or are dying.

    Persons of interest were identified and interviewed in 1973, some of those interviews have continued, and investigators have tracked down new leads. Investigators are leaving open the possibility that the body belonged to a female from out of the area, a runaway or transient or a family member who may have been visiting someone at the Gap, among other options, but Trate said one name has been floated as a possible identity — Betsy Langjahr.

    Betsy Langjahr

    Trate is quick to remind people that the female found may not be Betsy Langjahr, but Betsy was one of four local runaway girls reported missing around the time of the discovery that he has not been able to clear with interviews, DNA samples or Social Security records.

    Betsy had been reported missing by someone at Talbot Hall, a then-home for troubled youth that now houses the Jonestown American Legion. Trate said he hopes someone may see the name, which was taken from old police reports, and that it may jog a memory.

    Trate said Betsy is not necessary investigators' best lead, but it is something they are looking to rule out.

    "I know that when you throw out one name, a lot of people will zero in on that and say this is Betsy Langjahr. I'm not saying this is Betsy Langjahr, but I'm saying it s a possibility it could be her," he said.


    Investigator on Betsy Langjahr and the missing persons databaseInvestigator on Betsy Langjahr and the missing persons database
    Betsy is not investigators' only possibility in the case, and detectives have also compared the body to cases with some similarities in the Lebanon County area at that time. Trate declined to comment on any possible similar cases or other investigative avenues, citing a potential for compromising the cases.

    The investigation, though, has taken Trate from areas of Virginia to Pittsburgh as he tries to find a name. Naming Jane Doe, he said, is his primary goal.

    "First and foremost is who she is, and after that is our secondary goal of who put her there and what happened to her," Trate said.

    New technologies

    DNA will likely be the answer investigators are looking for if they can find a member of Jane Doe's family to also enter into the FBI's system for missing persons. DNA entered into the database, even if not a match with the Jonestown Jane Doe, heightens the chances that other Jane Does may be linked and identified.

    Next, investigators are working with The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and a case manager with Help ID Me as they move forward in the case.

    Investigators plan to send dental records to be redone to hopefully narrow the female's age. They are also hoping to have a forensic artist create a possible image of the female through the use of CT scans and computer program imaging.

    Trate said he thinks about her every day and sees the case being solved.

    "I don't lose faith. I can't, not for her. I won't. I won't lose faith for her. Because I think that's what we all stand up here for. We have to give her a voice, we have to do everything we possibly can to try to figure this thing out."

    Tips?

    State police ask that anyone who may know the female or circumstances surrounding her death contact Pennsylvania State Police Criminal Investigator Nathan Trate at 717-865-3647 or ntrate@pa.gov.

    All calls will remain confidential, and callers can remain anonymous.

    Anyone wishing to remain anonymous can also call Pennsylvania crime stoppers at 1-800-4PA-TIPS and reference incident number L02-12591.



     
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  19. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestig...286-INDIANTOWN-GAP-JANE-DOE-1973-Pennsylvania

    INDIANTOWN GAP JANE DOE , 1973, Pennsylvania

    The Pennsylvania State Police
    Seeks Assistance In The Identification of these Remains.

    Date Located October 10, 1973

    LOCATION Fort Indiantown Gap Military Reservation, Lebanon County, Pennsylvania

    DATE OF DEATH September 1973


    CAUSE OF DEATH Undetermined; Decomposed from the waist up

    Description (ESTIMATES):

    • Estimated age: 16-20 years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"-5'8"
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Light brown/blonde hair.
    • Dentals: Available
    • Clothing: Nude. No jewelry
    • Skeletal Findings: No previous fractures.
    • Fingerprints: Available
    • Dentals: Available
    • DNA: Not Available
    Case History
    Remains were not buried but covered with tree branches, brush and a 48"x32.5" piece of plastic.
    A white seal on the plastic read "National Sanitation Foundation, Testing Laboratory, Number "8505".

    Investigators
    If you have any information about this case please contact:
    Pennsylvania State Police
    610-378-4035
    You may remain anonymous when submitting information.
    Agency Case Number:
    L02-0012591
    NCIC Number:
    U-853401149
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case. Source Information:
    Pennsylvania State Police

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/609ufpa.html
     
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  20. Akoya

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    http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestig...286-INDIANTOWN-GAP-JANE-DOE-1973-Pennsylvania


    Lebanon Daily News
    Thursday Evening, October 11, 1973


    IDENTITY FIRST STEP IN MURDER MYSTERY

    What is apparently a murder mystery was today being investigated by area law enforcement officials.

    It involves the nude and severely decomposed body of a mature white female found Wednesday evening on Indiantown Gap Military Reservation land in the Green Point area.

    Dr. Leonard Tanner, Good Samaritan Hospital pathologist, was scheduled to examine the remains today in an effort to determine the identification of the woman and the cause of her death.

    TWO QUESTIONS

    District Attorney George E. Christianson said this morning :There are two questions that must be answered, the first concerns the identity of the woman and the second is how she met her death. When we learn these things, we can proceed further."

    The DA said he would not speculate on the cause of the death of the woman, but added, "There is no doubt that she was put there."

    What he meant by "put there" is the place where the body was found about 6:40 p.m. in Union Township. The find was made by Deputy Game Protectors Lloyd Pfautz and Richard Bucks, both of Lebanon.

    The two men were driving along route 443 in the Moonshine Church area when they detected a stench they thought was caused by a dead deer. As they went about 200 yards into a wooded area to investigate, they found the body.

    The body was covered with debris and a number of logs about two and a half to three inches in diameter.

    The body had been placed on the ground and covered with the debris and logs," Christianson said. He said there were no rings, jewelry or clothing on the body and none was found in the immediate area. A more thorough search of the area was scheduled for today.

    The DA said the body had apparently been there more than a week and a half. The decomposition was greatest in the upper torso and head areas. This complicates the job of identification.

    As one means of seeking to learn the identity of the woman Christianson asked area police departments to review their missing persons iles.

    MARKS NOTED

    One report said some marks were found on an arm and a leg but it was not immediately determined if these were sustained before or after death.

    Christianson said the attempt to hide the body was not a professional job. While it was substantially hidden, he said, there had been no attempt made to dig a grave.

    The DA said it was obvious that the body was that of a white female and she was fully grown, but he said, it was not the body of an elderly woman. At the same time he said he didn't want to try to pinpoint the age at this time. "I don't want to say it's the body of someone between the ages of 16 and 60, yet it almost covers this age range," he added.

    Pfautz, one of the game protectors who found the body is a City Of Lebanon fire truck driver. Bucks is employed by Hauck Manufacturing Co.

    The police investigation today was being headed by State Troopers Ronald Franzone and Carl Mindler of the Jonestown state police barracks.
     
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