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OK LAURIA BIBLE & ASHLEY FREEMAN: Missing from Welch, OK - 30 Dec 1999 - Age 16 & 16

Discussion in 'Missing 1990 to 1999' started by SheWhoMustNotBeNamed, Jul 22, 2017.

  1. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member


    Lauria and Ashley were last seen at Ashley's trailer home near Welch, Oklahoma on December 30, 1999. A passing motorist noticed a fire at the residence at 6:00 am the next day. Authorities found Ashley's mother's remains inside the debris of the home that afternoon. They said they were positive no other bodies were there.

    Ashley's father was considered the prime suspect in the murder and kidnapping of Ashley and Lauria. However, the next day, Lauria's father discovered his body in the debris. An extensive search at this time did not turn up remains of either girl.

    There was speculation that Lauria and Ashley were involved in the Freeman's murders, but investigators do not believe this to be the case. There are several other theories surrounding their disappearance, and several possible suspects, but none have been substantiated.

    NCMEC - http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/877676/1

    Charley Project - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bible_lauria.html


    Media - http://www.crimewatchers.net/forum/...near-welch-oklahoma-on-december-30-1999.2531/
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  2. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

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    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

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  4. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    New leads in search of Oklahoma girls missing since 1999
    Jan 25, 2016

    Over the weekend, tips came in from Oklahoma, Kansas and Missouri, Fox 23 reports.

    Some people reported seeing the girls alive in a car after they disappeared.

    One man who is currently on death row, Jeremy Jones, claims he killed the girls.

    However, he was not able to convince authorities that it was him.

    Earlier this month, investigators searched a well in Chetopa, Kansas, hoping to find the teen girls’ remains.

    Lorene told the Miami News-Record that she received a tip on social media that said authorities should check an old well on property formerly owned by a convicted murderer.

    “The person said come to the old Charlie Krider house and look in the well,” Lorene told the local newspaper.

    Authorities searched the well, but it turned up empty.

    Lorene told the newspaper that she receives about two or three serious tips a month.

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  5. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    'Pot-stirring' gives investigators new leads in cold cases such as missing Welch girls
    Jan 5, 2017

    Every six months Lorene Bible reminds people of a 17-year-old mystery she’ll never forget. She calls it “stirring the pot,” and if she didn’t do it, she wouldn’t be able to live with herself.

    As special agent Tammy Ferrari and investigator Gary Stansill know, the more people are talking either in the media or in their personal lives, the more tips come in to law enforcement, and the more likely the missing person will be found.

    Ashley and Lauria — now women, if they’re still alive — are among 85 listed missing from Oklahoma on the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children list.

    After 17 years, Ashley and Lauria’s case is considered cold, though that status doesn’t necessarily change how law enforcement investigates a case, Ferrari said. After receiving the designation, the biggest difference is investigators may not work on the case daily.

    About a year after Lorene Bible began pot-stirring on her Facebook page, both Ferarri and Stansill — an investigator with the District Attorney’s Office for Craig, Mayes and Rogers counties — said Ashley and Lauria’s case is more active than it’s been in years.

    Over the past year, investigators have done a few interviews, at least one inside a prison. Another interview is planned in the coming months. They’ve also hypnotized a possible witness to get information the person couldn’t consciously recall, Ferarri said.

    Both investigators think there are people who know about the case but are too afraid to come forward, perhaps because they fear retribution.

    Both investigators ask anyone with any information about the case to contact them, even if they’ve previously provided a statement. In the past, some people have thought investigators had the information they’d provided but found out the information wasn’t in the right hands, Stansill said.

    Bible put it this way: “I just ask if there’s somebody out there, that they pick up the phone and they call.”

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  6. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Investigators say they have 'definite course' in 18-year-old murder case involving disappearance of two girls

    Eighteen years after Danny and Kathy Freeman were shot and killed inside their Northeast Oklahoma home and their daughter and her friend went missing, investigators have turned up new information that they hope could lead to answers in the unsolved case.

    On Friday, the Oklahoma Bureau of Investigation announced that it could be “at a turning point in the case.”

    “The new sheriff when he was moving in found this box with information pertaining to the case,” Jessica Brown, OSBI spokesperson, said Saturday, referring to Craig County Sheriff Heath Winfrey.

    Brown said she could not provide additional details about how many documents or notes were found or what they contained, but in the statement called the discovery “extremely valuable.”

    “This is the first time in many, many years that we have some credible and viable information about the case,” she said Saturday in a telephone interview. “Now we have a definite course.”

    However, in the statement Friday, the OSBI also said: “Leads gathered this year could be a turning point in the case. An OSBI agent and District 12 District Attorney’s Office investigator have interviewed several people who possess knowledge about the murders and the missing girls.”

    Investigators also said in their statement that they believe that there are more people with information who could help solve this case. OSBI is offering up to a $10,000 reward for credible information. A private reward stands at $50,000.

    OSBI and the DA investigator also said in the statement that they are working to locate and re-interview those previously approached by law enforcement.

    Anyone with information about the murders of Danny and Kathy Freeman and the disappearance of Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible can call the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation hotline at 1-800-522-8017 or email tips@osbi.ok.gov with any information. Those who have previously provided information are urged to contact OSBI again.

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  7. Scorpio

    Scorpio Bronze Member

    Disappeared episode.
  8. Cousin Dupree

    Cousin Dupree Platinum Member


    Suspect in custody in connection to case of 2 Oklahoma girls missing since 1999
    Posted 11:59 am, April 23, 2018, by Dallas Franklin, Updated at 02:33PM, April 23, 2018

    OKLAHOMAA suspect is in custody in connection to the case of two Oklahoma girls who have been missing since 1999.

    December 30-31, 1999, the bodies of Danny and Kathy Freeman were found inside their burned home near Welch.

    They were shot and killed before their home was set on fire.

    The Freeman’s 16-year-old daughter Ashley and her friend Lauria Bible were missing.

    Lauria, 16, was staying the night at Ashley’s house to celebrate Ashley’s birthday....
  9. kdg411

    kdg411 Resource Mod

    UPDATE: Affidavit suggests missing Welch girls were abducted, raped, tortured

    Ronnie Dean Busick, 66, charged with murder, kidnapping, arson stemming from 1999 case


    According to a 30-page affidavit handed out at today's news conference, the investigation took a fresh turn with the rediscovery of some evidence in possession of the Craig County Sheriff's Office pertaining to an insurance card that was found at the scene of the crime. The card belonged to a woman who was once a girlfriend of Welch. Interviews and re-interviews with her led to the development of Welch, Pennington and Busick as suspects in the case.

  10. Scorpio

    Scorpio Bronze Member


    Witnesses said Welch had photos depicting the teens “lying on a bed, facing each other, with their hands tied and their mouths gagged,” the affidavit states. In some photos, the affidavit states Welch was lying next to the teens. The Polaroid photos were kept “like a ‘trophy’” and stored inside a leather briefcase to be passed around the ringleader's circle of drug dealers, the affidavit states.

    I feel sick. :mad:
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  11. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Those poor girls. Alive for days. I wonder if they were told what was done to their family.
    Reminds me of the Groene case. :( Killing a whole family to appease your demon desires.
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  12. kdg411

    kdg411 Resource Mod

    Any connection revealed as to how these 3 knew this family?
  13. spike

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  14. spike

    spike Bronze Member

    Is that POS too old to be bridge guy?
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  15. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    :mad: TWELVE PEOPLE KNEW. At least 12 people chose to keep their mouths shut instead of give 2 grieving families answers. TWELVE.

    More than 12 people kept silent after Oklahoma girls disappeared in 1999, prosecutors say

    More than a dozen people with information about the grisly crimes kept silent for almost two decades, some out of fear for their own lives, according to a court affidavit obtained by KFOR.

    In December 2017, Craig County Sheriff Heath Winfrey provided investigators with previously unknown notes and documents he discovered referencing the Freeman/Bible case. The previous sheriff's administration had apparently stashed the cache of information.

    Those notes and documents have proven extremely valuable.

    The probable cause affidavit states the documents contained "some information pertaining to Warren Phillip "Phil" Welch II, David Pennington, and Ronnie Busick, as being involved in the murders and missing girls. The crate also contained names of individuals that may possess information."

    An OSBI agent and District 12 District Attorney’s Office investigator interviewed several people who the say had knowledge about the murders and the missing girls.

    Through those interviews, investigators determined Welch, Pennington and Busick murdered Danny and Kathy Freeman, set their home on fire, and kidnapped Ashley and Lauria, and eventually killed them as well.

    Court documents reveal more than a dozen people said they knew or had even seen evidence of the crimes.

    More than a dozen interviews are cited in the probable cause affidavit. Many of the interviewees had apparently dated and lived with the accused men.

    All of the witnesses said either Phil Welch, David Pennington, or Ronnie Busick bragged about the murders, and threatened to kill anyone who went to police.

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  16. Scorpio

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  17. spike

    spike Bronze Member

    :mad:Line 'em up.
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  18. kdg411

    kdg411 Resource Mod

    Grandfather breaking his silence on 1999 cold case investigation after arrest is made in case

    Although one of the men allegedly responsible for the crimes is in custody, Glen said he wants more answers.

    He said his son, Danny, did have a drug problem in the past, but he doesn't believe his son was murdered over a bad drug deal.

    Glen said he has other theories for why Ronnie Busick, Phil Welch and David Pennington were at the Freeman's mobile home that night.

  19. Uno2Much

    Uno2Much Bronze Member

    Graphic Polaroids Lead to Arrest of Man Accused of 1999 Abduction and Murder of 2 Oklahoma Girls
    April 27, 2018 04:05 PM

    According to the affidavit, which was first reported by KFOR-TV, many of the witnesses had dated or lived with the three men. All of the witnesses allege that Welch, Pennington and Busick bragged about the murders, and threatened to kill anyone who turned them in to police. Many of the witnesses allege that the three men killed the Freemans over money and drugs, the affidavit states.

    A female witness, identified in the affidavit by the initials TW, told police that she lived with Phil Welch after the murders. She alleged that she heard conversations between the three men where they disclosed that the murder victims had owed them money.

    TW told police that they kidnapped the girls and killed them later. She also claimed that she discovered Welch had briefcase containing Polaroids of the girls bound and gagged with duct tape and lying on a bed. “In some of the Polaroids she observed Welch lying next to the girls,” the affidavit states.

    In a statement on Facebook, Bible’s family said that they had been aware of Busick and the other men for quite some time. They also had heard about the Polaroids several years ago.

    Read more: http://people.com/crime/graphic-polaroids-arrest-missing-oklahoma-girls/
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  20. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Another search for bodies of Welch girls finds no evidence after tip about possible grave site

    No credible evidence was found in a daylong search of a rural area in northern Ottawa County on Wednesday for the remains of two missing and presumed dead teenagers, Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible.

    A tip from a person, who reported possibly seeing a clandestine grave in the area, led local and state agents along with cadaver dogs from K9 Search Oklahoma to two undisclosed locations on Dec. 28, 2017, in the far northeast corner of Oklahoma and southeast corner of Kansas.

    A drone was used to survey the rocky, hilly and snowy terrain while the dogs hit on a couple of sites.

    “We still need people to come forward with the information of where the girls actually are,” said Michelle Lowry, spokeswoman for the Craig County District Attorney’s Office.

    Lowry released a statement saying, “there is no schedule or list of specific locations to search next.”

    “We can confirm this remains an open, cooperative, very active investigation,” she said. ” At this time, every lead will be followed.”

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