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WA LINDSEY BAUM: Missing from McCleary, WA - 26 June 2009 - Age 10 *Found Deceased*

Discussion in 'Located/Resolved' started by SheWhoMustNotBeNamed, Apr 15, 2015.

  1. TripleA

    TripleA Zoo Keeper

    Wow! This was a day that I never expected to come. God Bless Lindsey - May she rest in peace. :vigil:
     
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  2. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    Or heard about remains being found in "that" area? ooooops, gotta go!
     
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  3. NOCLUE

    NOCLUE Bronze Member

    Interesting! :detective:
     
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  4. NOCLUE

    NOCLUE Bronze Member

    RIP, Lindsey...:candle:
     
  5. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Indeed.
     
  6. Saddened

    Saddened Active Member

    I haven't logged in for a while. Sometimes the heart needs a break. I saw this news story this morning and had to head over, I knew the full story would be here. Praying that now that her body has been identified law enforcement will be able to act on any leads they may have.
     
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  7. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    I understand the heart needing a break girl. Dont feel bad. Im bipolar and when in a deep depression have to take breaks for sure. Come back abd help whenever is best for you. Its the same way for me. <3
     
  8. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    Yup I’m wondering that as well. I hope, if the multiple rumors are true that he poured new concrete and demo’d a few things, that LE can search it still. I know many advocates were VERY interested in that concrete slab at his now old property.
     
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  9. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    It's no wonder that so many people's hearts are broken today. What a precious little girl. Continuing prayers for her loved ones today.

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  10. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    TIMELINE:

    Early Summer 2009- Melissa Baum and her two kids, Lindsey and older brother Josh, moved to McCleary, Wash, a town of fewer than 2,000 people. Melissa moved from Tennessee following a divorce.

    June 26, 2009 (The day of Baum's disappearance) - Lindsey Baum spent the hot summer day at her friend’s house, swimming in a pool.

    She and her brother returned home briefly and then went to another friend’s house on Maple Street. Lindsey and her brother got in a fight - reportedly over a bike - and her brother returned home.

    Lindsey asked if she could stay the night at the friend’s house, but the friend’s mom said no. Lindsey left around 9: 15 p.m. to return home. It was about a 10 minute walk back to her house (5 blocks). She was spotted on the streets by a neighbor between 5th and 6th Streets. It was the last time she was seen.

    Around 10 p.m., Melissa Baum called the friend’s mom, who told her Lindsey had left an hour ago. Lindsey’s mom called her cell phone, but it was left at the home on a charger. At 10:45 p.m., Melissa called police.

    At her time of disappearance, Baum was 4'9" tall and about 80 pounds. She has brown hair and brown eyes. She was wearing a light blue hooded sweatshirt, blue jeans, and black slip-on shoes.

    November 2009 - Lindsey Baum's face was on the cover of People Magazine.

    2010 – Police and FBI searched the home of a 47-year-old man provided inconsistent statements to police. No arrests were made. (Note: This was not Hartman)

    2012 – Sheriff’s deputies and FBI looked at the home of local shop owner and jewelry store owner, Tim Hartman. Hartman was called a person of interest. Law enforcement allegedly found ropes, and handwritten notes about Lindsey’s disappearance. Again, no arrests were made.

    2013 – An enhanced photo of an aged Baum was released.

    2014 – Police investigated another man, but again no arrests were made.

    A skull was found in a crab pot off the coast Grays Harbor County. Due to consistent rumors about Baum’s demise, the sheriff’s office specifically stated this was not Baum’s skull.

    Summer 2017 – Police searched the Mason County home of the Emery Brothers, who were charged for possession of child porn. The home was searched after children clothes and examples child exploitation were found in the brothers’ Seattle home. Mason County is just 17 miles from McCleary. Cadaver dogs were sent to the property.

    Fall of 2017 - Hunters located human remains in a remote area of Eastern Washington. They were sent to the FBI for identification.

    May 10, 2018 - A press conference announcing the discovery of Baum's remains.

    Over the case, dozens of search warrants and hundreds of interviews have been conducted.

    http://q13fox.com/2018/05/10/timeline-in-lindsey-baums-disappearance-and-investigation/
     
  11. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

  12. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    I was looking and couldn't find this, but where did Hartman say he was when he was claiming not to be in town when Lindsey went missing? Did he say he was in eastern Washington, by chance? I'd like to know if he has ties there, went camping/hunting there, etc.
     
  13. Jezzabel

    Jezzabel Well-Known Member

    There was a guy named Dale G. Interesting his alibi has changed several times for the night Lindsey went missing. He worked at the Bee-hive Retirement Home which Lindsey would have pasts that night on her way home. I just read on facebook that he now has a criminal case on Washington State court records. Not sure if he's under arrest or not but he has a criminal case that lists a warrant on 5/4/18, his prelim was yesterday & arraignment 5/14/18. The timing is interesting at least.

    I didn't follow Lindsey's case back then but always checked when something new came up in regards to her. Some of you might remember this Dale G?

    https://odysseyportal.courts.wa.gov/ODYPORTAL/Home/WorkspaceMode?p=0
     
  14. Uno2Much

    Uno2Much Bronze Member

    I do remember the name, though Tim Hartman is the one I remember most and suspected. I can't find anything in MSM now on Golder/Golden. Wasn't he off work the night Lindsey disappeared but coworkers said they saw his car in the parking lot? Wasn't there also something about him going to eastern Washington that night?
     
  15. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Having a tough time with this one, so I apologize if my posts are disjointed.


    No, not that night at least. He was in a class in Belfair, which is about an hour north of McCleary, kind of toward Seattle.

    The biggest thing that always stood out to me about Hartman was that he said he was in class until 9:00 pm. He actually got out at 8:15 pm and was seen on surveillance at the Shell station at 9:15 pm, right when Lindsey would have been passing by. He also said that later that evening, he made an ambulance run (volunteer EMT - not sure if the call was ever confirmed or not) and when he came back the search was underway. He went home, but "couldn't sleep", so he went out and just happened to run into Lindsey's mom. So around 1:00 am this guy is out driving Lindsey's mum around a local wooded creek area.

    I don't think he was looked at as a "person of interest" until a while later, when they did confirm he was in the area that night when he said he wasn't. He would have had a few days to "sort things out" before he was closely looked at.

    During searches of his home and store, LE apparently found ropes and handwritten notes about Lindsey’s disappearance.


    Dale Golder was another person of interest. I'm not as familiar with him, but I know they did serve a search warrant on his property. This is some info I pulled from looking at old posts regarding the case.

    Lindsey often walked by the Beehive Retirement Center on her way to and from M's. A "concerned citizen" made a tip that police should look into Golder. He worked at Beehive. Apparently his vehicle was spotted in the area that night as well. He was not scheduled to be at work the night Lindsey disappeared, but he apparently claimed he was working. When confronted, he said he was at his other job near Olympia, but that job also said he was not there that night (he had been suspended for misbehavior). In later interviews, he said he was at home in Elma (about 15 minutes away) sleeping and didn't know who Lindsey was and had never seen her before. In July, Lindsey's mom reported that she was being followed by someone in a white car. Turned out to be Golder.

    He was also apparently a suspect in an attempted rape of a child in 2000 (he was 14 at the time, and the child was 12).

    A search warrant for Golders cellular telephone records for a month prior and a month after June 26, 2009 was obtained. When the records were analyzed it was learned that Golder was texting and calling a number in eastern Washington repeatedly from about noon on 06-26-09 until 9:26pm. There was in excess of 50 contacts to this number that suddenly stopped at 9:26pm. This person lived in Ellensburg. (I don't consider that Eastern WA but many do consider anything on that side of the mountains "Eastern"). He reportedly told her at one point that he "couldn't believe a girl was taken and cut up and dismembered". The woman also reported he seemed obsessed with the case. This person later told police Golder drove to Ellensburg on July 16 and she drove him back because his car broke down.
     
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  16. Uno2Much

    Uno2Much Bronze Member

    Wasn't there also something about him cleaning the interior of his vehicle?
     
  17. Uno2Much

    Uno2Much Bronze Member

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  18. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Like I said, I don't consider Ellensburg to be "eastern Washington". But that's probably because I grew up in eastern Washington / north Idaho. Ellensburg is central. They have a university there called Central Washington University....
    BUT - most people from the "west side" consider anything east of the Cascade mountains to be "eastern Washington". Therefore they would consider Ellensburg to be "eastern Washington".

    For reference, McCleary is near Olympia.

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  19. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    I'm mostly worried that the area Lindsey's remains were found was not immediately considered a crime scene. Obviously they had no reason to suspect that it was Lindsey. And she had already been there probably for 8+ years. But that's just an extra 8 months for evidence to be lost. I'm sure they're back out there now. But what will they find? Can they even pinpoint the exact area at this point?
     
  20. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Tips can be submitted to investigators by phone or online at 360-964-1799 or baumtips@co.grays-harbor.wa.us.

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