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Discussion in 'Cold Cases' started by Takeitfromme, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    I used to think drugs or mental illness made her spin off into a paranoia and die that night, but now I think that SG was the one girl who blew the whistle and was able to get away (momentarily at least got away). And J brewer, if the killer, would not want to put her with the other victims in an attempt to sway suspicion away from him being a serial killer. however, he also knew he couldn't kill her and leave her body far away b/c that would have been obvious homicide. Was better to leave her body somewhere it looked like she could run to and succumb to the elements. The whistle had already been blown. It was his best bet. JMO.
  2. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    I 100% agree... I never believed Shannan "ran right out of her jeans"... She was running for her life... I truly believe that and I truly believe she was a victim of LISK.
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  3. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    I've watched that documentary many times and thought the same thing... That it was an odd night a very scary night... I think she was so terrified that she was in fight or flight mode.... And flight was her reaction
  4. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

  5. AlwaysSearching

    AlwaysSearching Bronze Member

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  6. misssasska

    misssasska Active Member

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  7. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Was he a doctor back then?

    His phone calls have always kept him high on my list, that's for sure. I wish Truthspider was still around. He knew everything about that doc.
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    MULDER Bronze Member

    From the link:

    Amy Gagliardi told PIX11 that investigators questioned male friends that Tina Foglia knew in the 1980s. But Gagliardi wonders about a mystery man that Tina mentioned in a letter, shortly before her murder.
    "She said she met a doctor," Gagliardi recalled, saying the two met at Hammerheads. "He took her out a couple of times. She said she really liked him a lot."
    Amy Gagliardi said her sister never mentioned the doctor's name.
    Thirty-five years later, Amy Gagliardi is still hoping for a resolution in her sister's case.
    But one of Tina Foglia's good friends didn't want to do an interview when we found her.
    "I don't want to open up a nightmare," the woman said. "It's an old wound. It's a nightmare. And I don't want to be next."

    Seems to me she is confirming that the person she will not mention or identify has a very strong emotional stranglehold on her, enough for not to open up. It also says that the person is still alive then.
  9. Sabra

    Sabra Well-Known Member

    The trial for John Bittrolff began yesterday. He is the presumed killer of Colleen McNamee and Rita Tangredi (and possibly others).


    RIVERHEAD, N.Y. (CBSNewYork) — A Long Island father was on trial Wednesday, accused of in the murders of two women two decades ago.

    As CBS2’s Carolyn Gusoff reported, John Bittrolff, 48, of Manorville, was arrested in July 2014 and charged with two counts of second-degree murder in the deaths of Rita Tangredi and Colleen McNamee.

    The naked body of Tangredi was found on Nov. 2, 1993, in a wooded area off Esplanade Drive in East Patchogue, police said. She had been beaten and strangled, and her body was found in a unique pose.

    Tangredi, 31 – also identified as Rita Tangredi-Beinlich – had been seen hitchhiking the night before on Montauk Highway east of County Road 101 in East Patchogue, police said in an earlier bulletin archived by Newsday.

    McNamee’s body was found in the woods near Express Drive South near the William Floyd Parkway in Shirley, on Jan. 30, 1994, police said. She was also found naked in a unique pose and had been beaten and strangled, police said.

    McNamee, 20, was last seen on Jan. 5, 1994, getting into a small blue car outside the Blue Dawn Diner in Islandia, police said in the archived release. She was an outpatient of the South Shore Treatment Center in Islandia, police said.

    Both Tangredi and McNamee had been arrested previously for prostitution, police said in the archived release.


    Prosecutors told the jury the case is about science, given that the women were found naked in the unique poses and covered in wood chips.

    Prosecutors said genetic material was also left on both victims.

    The case cracked after Bitroff’s brother was arrested in unrelated crime. His DNA was a partial match with the killer.

    Investigators would search the garbage of a Manorville house to find a match in Bittrolff

    The defense blasted police for losing evidence, pointing out DNA does not prove murder and that there were others with motives.

    And the jury was offered no hint of a motive — why a man would commit murder twice and keep a dark secret for 20 years.

    Bittrolff turned down a plea deal. The trial could take ten weeks.

    *Despite obvious similarities, prosecutors have said there is no evidence linking Bittrolff with the still unsolved Gilgo Beach killings involving sex workers.
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  10. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Thank you @Sabra! I'm really interested in learning new information that might come out during this trial!
  11. Sabra

    Sabra Well-Known Member

    The prosecution labeled it “a case about science and the use of DNA in its infancy.”

    The defense said it’s a tale of corruption with a chapter on destroying evidence that might have implicated police officers in the murder of two prostitutes.

    The opening statements in the trial against John Bittrolff, a 50-year-old Manorville carpenter who is married and has two children, began Wednesday before Judge Richard Ambro in Suffolk County Criminal Court.

    Mr. Bittrolff was arrested July 21, 2014 and charged with two counts of second-degree murder in connection with the deaths of Rita Tangredi and Colleen McNamee. Police said at the time that DNA evidence obtained from Mr. Bittrolff’s brother connected him to the crimes that occurred over 20 years ago.

    On Nov. 2, 1993, Ms. Tangredi, 31, who had no known address at the time, was found in a wooded area off Esplanade Drive in East Patchogue. Ms. McNamee, 20, of Holbrook was found dead in the woods near Express Drive South, near William Floyd Parkway in Shirley on Jan. 30, 1994. Both women were found nude, beaten and strangled to death and DNA obtained at the time established that they were likely killed by the same suspect, police said.

    Both victims were prostitutes and drug users, police said, and the cases went unsolved until police found a partial DNA match from Mr. Bittrolff’s brother, Timothy Bittrolff.

    Since Timothy Bittrolff was convicted of criminal contempt in 2013, he was required by state law to provide a DNA sample to authorities, which was then entered into a statewide DNA database created in 2000, assistant district attorney Robert Biancavilla said.

    The DNA of semen found on the victims was a partial match for Timothy Bittrolff, Mr. Biancavilla said.

    While he was ruled out as a suspect in the murders, police began investigating his relatives and started to follow John Bittrolff, Mr. Biancavilla said, adding that authorities tested a cigarette his wife tossed to the ground and took his trash after he placed nine garbage bags outside his home.

    After a cup found in that trash provided a match connecting Mr. Bittrolff’s DNA to the semen found on the victims, Suffolk police arrested him in connection with the killings, the assistant district attorney said.

    “The killer left his calling card on both girls,” Mr. Biancavilla told the jury. “He didn’t realize that he also left his genetic fingerprints on the victims.”

    More than 60 men, including two Suffolk police officers, were investigated and ruled out as suspects because their DNA wasn’t a match, he said.

    Lots more:http://riverheadnewsreview.timesrev...manorville-man-accused-in-cold-case-killings/
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  12. Sabra

    Sabra Well-Known Member

    Twenty-three years after the fact, a now-retired Suffolk detective recalled trudging through brush south of the Long Island Expressway in Shirley to find a dead young woman.

    Former Det. William Rathjen testified Thursday in Riverhead at the trial of John Bittrolff, 50, a Manorville carpenter. He is charged with second-degree murder in the killings of Rita Tangredi, 31, of East Patchogue on Nov. 2, 1993, and Colleen McNamee, 20, of Holbrook on Jan. 30, 1994.

    Rathjen narrated a crime scene video taken the day McNamee’s body was found. He described walking through brush south of the eastbound on-ramp at Exit 68, passing construction and other debris, until a blue winter jacket was visible. A bit farther along, there was a pair of socks, one sneaker, some stretch pants and a pair of black jeans. Police searched the area after getting an anonymous call about the body.

    More: http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...about-finding-woman-s-body-in-1994-1.13567716
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  13. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Whoa! I never even thought about how they could catch a killer this way. Using the DNA of a family member that's been incarcerated.
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  14. Sabra

    Sabra Well-Known Member

    Yes!!! It was crazy. They got a hit on his brother's DNA!!

    The moral of the story...one way or another...karma gets you!
  15. Sabra

    Sabra Well-Known Member

    Oh! The irony! He bashed Chris Loeb for being a junky, spending time in jail for his assault, lost his prestigious position as corrupt chief...And...


    Multiple sources said prison officials discovered oxycodone — a controlled substance prescribed by doctors for pain management — taped under a shelf inside the personal locker of Burke, who has been housed at a low-security federal prison in Allenwood, Pennsylvania, since late December.

    Burke, 52, who was Suffolk’s highest-ranking uniformed officer for four years until his resignation in November 2015, was segregated from other inmates after the oxycodone was found recently and is undergoing drug testing, the sources said. The FBI in Pennsylvania is investigating the source of the drugs, sources said.

    The FBI declined to comment. The Federal Bureau of Prisons did not respond to messages seeking comment Monday.

    Burke’s lawyer, John Meringolo of Manhattan, denied that drugs were found in Burke’s locker but said: “My client denies all allegations. He’ll be vindicated.”

    Prison officials initially thought the drugs could have been synthetic marijuana, sold under the names K2 or Spice, but determined through laboratory testing the drug was oxycodone, the sources said.
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  16. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Of COURSE he denied it. :facepalm:
  17. AlwaysSearching

    AlwaysSearching Bronze Member

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    Kimster Director Staff Member

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  19. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member


    A carpenter convicted of killing two prostitutes in the 1990s may be responsible for at least one of the 10 unsolved killings of people along a Long Island beach highway, a prosecutor said Tuesday.

    Suffolk County Assistant District Attorney Robert Biancavilla made the revelation after the sentencing of 51-year-old John Bittrolff.

    The Manorville man received consecutive 25 years-to-life sentences for the beating deaths of two prostitutes. A jury deliberated for seven days before convicting him in May. Bittrolff denied killing the women and intends to appeal.

    Police on Long Island are still investigating the unsolved killings of 10 victims of an apparent serial killer or killers. The 10 bodies were found with a couple of miles of one another, and several of the victims have been identified as prostitutes. Until Tuesday, no suspects had been identified in any of the deaths.

  20. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    MINEOLA, N.Y. – For years, the thicket along a beach highway on Long Island held a horrible secret. Hidden from passing drivers were the skeletal remains of 10 people, mostly young women who had worked as prostitutes. Who killed them, and why, is a mystery that has vexed a slew of seasoned homicide detectives.

    The case took an intriguing turn when a veteran county prosecutor became the first authority to publicly name a suspect in at least one of the deaths: John Bittrolff, a Long Island carpenter who was sentenced to consecutive 25 years-to-life terms in prison this week for beating two prostitutes to death in 1993 and 1994.

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