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TX LORI KENNEDY RUFF or BECKY TURNER JANE DOE: Found in Longview, TX *Kimberly McLean*

Discussion in 'Identified!' started by Kimster, Aug 22, 2015.

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  1. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    :pickme: Me, too!
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  2. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    Thank you, DaisyChains. It's important to me that people know I haven't spoken to reporters from the Seattle Times or any other newspaper. I have no idea where that is coming from and I seriously doubt that Joe has given information to newspapers.

    I really do understand that people want to know who Lori Ruff was, or as Joe insists on calling her - Jane Doe. I would want to know who she was, too. Because of the circumstances, though, I truly believe that the only sources of information about her should be Blake Ruff or law enforcement. I feel badly that people suspect her of having been a bad or dangerous person. She did steal an identity from a headstone, but other than that she was pretty much just a victim with a lot of baggage. There are good reasons why her identity needs to be kept under wraps.
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  3. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    OMG, I love that little guy behind the desk.

    I can't give up her name, not even if you waterboard me. I am concerned about her daughter. Unfortunately, I am feeling uncomfortable that the name has possibly been leaked to this newspaper person. I don't know why all of this interest has suddenly taken place.
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  4. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    You don't know how much I admire and respect you for that. It's good to know that she was identified. That's the part I care about.
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  5. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    Thank you.
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  6. awillis0513

    awillis0513 New Member


    I'm new to this forum but found out about this case a year or so ago and have been following it quite a bit.

    I actually always have thought that she had to have been a victim, not a bad person at all. The thing that has always made me think this was the fact that she did file bankruptcy at one point after having the new identity. I figure she wouldn't do that if she had nifarious motives or was out to scam other people.

    Thank you for your work. I completely understand and the empathy factor has actually kept me drawn to this case. I feel empathetic for all involved, especially Lori. I have to believe that for someone (especially a woman) to just completely dump their previous life and relationships, something pretty bad would have had to happen.

    Thanks again.
  7. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    Could it be her husband or bio family leaking her true identity?
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  8. DNASleuth

    DNASleuth Member

    Can you say how she was identified?
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  9. midgemontana

    midgemontana New Member

    Suddenly taken place? You're kidding, right?
  10. Advocate

    Advocate Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

    Sorry but I think you handed someone in and think it was your potential match. My money is on her exBF who if was right would have just cme back.

    Michael Nance did nothing wrong, he cnfirmed her profile was pulled by LE and its their decision on whether they release it, he does say he thinks Velling is following up with the ID story.

    Many people have been working Loris case on WS and FB and by themselves. My friend turns in potentials all the time.
  11. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    whatever happened with that guy at WS who claimed she was his gf back in the day? I think he had a good lead. I am told he was essentially bullied off the board for being a potential troll. thats why im not at WS anymore - that group bully crap.

    But wasn't he the one who contacted Velling and possibly made the connection? I've been hearing rumors that his lead was credible and his ex was Lori, but who knows.
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  12. Winterlong

    Winterlong Member

    Advocate, I agree. Doesn't look like any MPs that could poss. have been FLEK have been taken down. Probably not someone listed on NamUs IMO. IMO she would've gotten ID'd much earlier if that was the case. Tons of folks are working on it online.

    Nothing wrong done by Nance, my main concern is the daughter knowing who her mama is. Even though I am very curious as to who Lori was it's really about her daughter knowing. For me.
  13. awillis0513

    awillis0513 New Member

    Yeah, I figured that had panned out.
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  14. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    "Sorry but I think you handed someone in and think it was your potential match. My money is on her exBF who if was right would have just cme back. "

    This statement is absolutely incredible and you have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea who Michael Nance is or who pulled the profile, nor do I care. I worked directly with Joe Velling. Sweet pea, this hasn't been a recent event. This took place before Joe retired and he's been away from Social Security for over a year. Somebody is just getting their act together at NAMUS and pulling her page. Your friend's message very clearly says that the investigator is working with the Seattle Times. Well, Joe was the Agent and I was the investigator/researcher. I haven't spoken to anyone in the newspapers and I have a problem with your friend's accusation. Joe Velling and I researched Lori's identity for a period of time. Nobody handed anything to anyone, especially to your friend at NAMUS. It was a completed project with completed DNA matches quite a while ago. This was first and foremost a law enforcement issue.

    These emails involve DNA work. Important information has been redacted, but you will note that your NAMUS friend isn't part of the communication. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

    From: "Velling, Joseph" <Joseph.Velling@ssa.gov>
    Date: Mon, XXXXXXXXXXX 15:01:43 -0400
    Subject: Re:
    Message-ID: <8597B59F67F4D04C90178C673B176A22013341638240@hq-ec-02.ba.ad.ssa.gov>


    Perhaps. The best course of action would be for me to go see sister XXXXXXX in XXXXXXXXXXX.


    Joseph J. Velling
    Special Agent in Charge
    SSA/OIG Seattle, Washington
    (888) 250-4172 ext 18417 wk
    (503) 329-3078 cell
    (206) 553-1002 fax

    "Sent from SSA/OIG Blackberry Wireless Handheld."


    From: "Velling, Joseph" <Joseph.Velling@ssa.gov>
    Date: Tue, XXXXXXXXXXX 18:28:30 -0500
    Subject: RE:
    Message-ID: <72455BFD7B6B764F924C04512F3E0FC20104E91FDBA8@hq-ec-02.ba.ad.ssa.gov>
    References: <AABKF239EAUCH7AA@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>


    I wanted to circle back and let you know we have reached out to a member of the XXXXXXX XXXXXXXX. My hope is we should know if XXXXXXX is XXXXXXXXX in the next month. Joe

    Joseph Velling
    Special Agent in Charge
    Social Security Administration
    Office of the Inspector General
    701 Pike Street, Suite 1000
    Seattle, Washington
    (888) 250-4172 x18417 direct
    (206) 553-1002 fax
  15. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    I feel very certain that it isn't her biological family or a member of the Ruff family.
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  16. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    Yes, it was a lot of research.
  17. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    When I said suddenly taking place, I am referring to the discussions about Lori Ruff being identified. Her identification is not new and it is interesting that it is suddenly a discussion topic on forums.
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  18. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    I have no idea who this person is or anything about an old boyfriend. He was never discussed in any of our work.
  19. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    She was never on any databases that I am aware of. She was not reported as a missing person. Her daughter needs to be protected, unless Blake Ruff decides differently.
  20. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    i think what they mean is did DNA help identify her and also was there a lead? or was her ID found by digging around for info without a lead and found her? I guess when you say a lot of research you are saying you found out her identity without a lead etc?

    just wondering as its uber interesting!
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