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TX LORI KENNEDY RUFF or BECKY TURNER JANE DOE: Found in Longview, TX *Kimberly McLean*

Discussion in 'Identified!' started by Kimster, Aug 22, 2015.

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  1. Thing1

    Thing1 Member

    Done with this forum, bye
     
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  2. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    Jeeze, isn't that exactly what she just said she said?

    Please, if you have nothing to add to the conversation except causing trouble, just go away.
     
  3. ItsMegan

    ItsMegan Member

    "Joe Velling was the Agent in Charge, so that leaves me,"
     
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  4. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    :thankyou:
     
  5. spike

    spike Bronze Member

    We do not speak to each other with such disrespect.
     
  6. ikura561

    ikura561 New Member

    That's a shame because you are making valid points.
     
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  7. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    Points can be made without disrespect. Most ave had no problem here doing just that.
     
  8. DNASleuth

    DNASleuth Member

    The two largest commercial companies are not interested in being associated with law enforcement. They require saliva samples for their testing. If other types of DNA were accepted, then it would be possible. Currently, that is not the case however.
     
  9. DNASleuth

    DNASleuth Member

    No, neither 23andMe or AncestryDNA currently accept uploads, only DNA samples. You could upload to gedmatch, but where would you get the raw results? You need someone to run the DNA that is using a compatible genotyping chip.
     
  10. DNASleuth

    DNASleuth Member

    But you said that DNA was not used to lead to her identity, only to confirm a theory that you reached through research. According to the article, that is not accurate. I specifically asked you to clarify that point and you did.
     
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  11. DNASleuth

    DNASleuth Member

    Clearly you had no idea about how this case was solved.
     
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  12. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    That's correct and accurate.
     
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  13. ikura561

    ikura561 New Member

    I don't think they were being disrespectful at all. Regardless, someone should not claim to have a hand in identifying Kimberly and be unwilling (or unable, as I suspect the case may be) to provide proof then get mad that people don't believe them and start pointing out inconsistencies in their statements.
     
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  14. ItsMegan

    ItsMegan Member

    Yes!
     
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  15. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    This is from my notes as per Joe Velling. Somebody paid for this.

    There was no autopsy done because the cause of death was a gunshot to the head. DNA was obtained because the mortuary provided hair and skin samples. There are no dental records.

    Joe later submitted DNA samples to ancestry.com and NAMUS.
     
  16. ItsMegan

    ItsMegan Member

    Did you google that or find it on websluthes?
     
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  17. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    And I produced two emails where Joe Velling was going to physically collect DNA samples and a second email where he was sending it to a lab.
     
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  18. ItsMegan

    ItsMegan Member

    When Fitzpatrick read the story about Lori, she immediately thought about DNA. Lori and her husband, Blake Ruff, had a daughter in 2008 and that daughter shared Lori’s DNA. If the daughter provided a DNA sample, there was a way to subtract Blake’s DNA profile from the daughter’s, leaving what is essentially Lori’s.

    The Ruff family sent a saliva sample to23andMe and Ancestry.com, companies that analyze DNA and provide tools to help people trace their family histories online. The family figured that the girl would one day want to know about her mother.
     
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  19. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member


    Me., too.
     
  20. ikura561

    ikura561 New Member

    You didn't produce anything. Copy/paste emails prove nothing.

    He did take DNA, but from Kimberly''s daughter not Kimberly
     
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