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TX LORI KENNEDY RUFF or BECKY TURNER JANE DOE: Found in Longview, TX *Kimberly McLean*

Discussion in 'Identified!' started by Kimster, Aug 22, 2015.

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  1. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    The article does not say that they didn't ALSO take it from Kimberly, does it? Most places I know of that do mitochondrial dna ALSO want the mother's DNA for verification and validation. We simply do not know if they did or didn't.
     
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  2. ikura561

    ikura561 New Member

    You would think it would be mentioned that they directly confirmed Kimberly's DNA through her own sample and not just her daughter but it could be oversight from the reporter. I think it would be bigger news though.
     
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  3. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    It seems obvious to me that the reporter doesn't know about verification or didn't care.
     
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  4. Advocate

    Advocate Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

    The raw data from UNT/NamUs. I assumed that's what Velling did because he said he had DNA in one of the genealogy sites; I'd have to look for our email tomorrow but it was probably her daughters
     
  5. Advocate

    Advocate Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

    The raw data from UNT/NamUs. I assumed that's what Velling did because he said he had DNA in one of the genealogy sites; I'd have to look for our email tomorrow but it was probably her daughters
     
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  6. ikura561

    ikura561 New Member

    I wouldn't go so far as to say they didn't care. It would make no sense for them to omit the HUGE news that DNA was confirmed directly through Kimberly. Also I was of the impression that Ancestry and 23andme only accept saliva samples so if only hair and tissue was taken from Kimberly as someone mentioned then it would be impossible for a direct match to occur through those companies. I might be confusing things though who knows
     
  7. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    Then I guess we are at the point that they didn't know about verification then.
     
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  8. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    It is not as easy as ONLY subtracting the father's DNA. There needs to be a way of verifying the result.
     
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  9. noZme

    noZme Bronze Member

    Reposting this warning from earlier today.

    There is much more information to share than who knew what & when. Gee Whiz! The person who knew why the Namus page was removed should not be a target.
    Until today, we have been here a year & a half with nobody even on time out or a thread closed.


     
  10. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    We are at the mercy in getting stories by what the reporter deems important that fits in the space allowed for their article. Many things get cut out of an original story in the name of space or time.
     
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  11. ikura561

    ikura561 New Member

    The article said they verified it through Deanne though?
     
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  12. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    That's ow they verified the relationship. I'm talking verifying the daughters DNA.
     
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  13. ikura561

    ikura561 New Member

    Oh, I was under the impression that IS what they used to verify. I must have misread
     
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  14. DNASleuth

    DNASleuth Member

    This is not the same type of data. UNT/Namus uses CODIS type testing of only a handful of markers. The genealogy DNA sites use genotyping of 600,000+ SNPs. That is why it can confidently predict more distant relationships when CODIS cannot. He was undoubtedly referring to her mtDNA which would not be able to identify her family just from a random database of testers. You need autosomal DNA for that. Ancestry used to have an online mtDNA database but they removed it. As I said, it is not helpful in tracing unknown parentage.
     
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  15. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    IAM SO HAPPY SHE HAS HER NAME BACK!!!!!!! :D
     
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  16. Advocate

    Advocate Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

    So then its possible UNT had DNA to test from her mother straight to Lori's NamUs profile
     
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  17. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    i just have to say that this Colleen Fitzpatrick is onto something with her forensic geneology method.

    It's encouraging to see just how many helpers came out with a sincere passion to solve this case. It has finally paid off!!
     
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  18. Lily

    Lily Bronze Member

    It's great to see this mystery cleared up at last.

    Shame about the bickering (in yet another thread). :(
     
  19. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    one last thing... i seriously want to cry now that we know her family didn't throw her out. She ran away and they couldn't find her. They figured she might be OK and just wanted zero contact... but now they know that she is no longer here on earth. As glad as I am she is identified - the angst and sadness for her daughter and family are very real.
     
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  20. DNASleuth

    DNASleuth Member

    Yes, it is likely they used this for final confirmation.
     
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