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Neal Falls: Oregon man who attacked a woman in West Virginia may have other victims!

Discussion in 'Crimes' started by Kimster, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    The Seneca Niagara Resort and Casino is the only Casino I see on the NY side. So maybe this is the casino I'll try and focus on as far as trying to find something to verify where Neal might have worked and when.

    There are more casinos on the Canada side and even a Casino school. Didn't realize there was that industry up there!
     
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  2. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    ok so for sure we know Falls lived in Henderson, NV from 2000-2008 (this scares the hell outta me, my longest lasting friendship ever, a woman like a sister to me since we were and 4 and 5 relocated there from 2006-2010)

    http://www.news3lv.com/content/news...-suspected-serial/zHOlft7XyE2U9TOYkxqd3Q.cspx

    so those early 2000's cases in NV, AZ, CA, EVEN CO should be considered. Then we also have the Chillicothe girls, West, VA.... Long Island, NY, TX should be considered until ruled out.
     
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  3. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    http://koin.com/2015/07/27/was-springfield-man-neal-falls-a-serial-killer/

    2010 LANDLORD: "Falls' former landlord told CNN affiliate KVAL that Falls lived at her house in 2010. The woman, who asked to be identified only as Pauline, said she evicted Falls after one year because his strange behavior made her uncomfortable." (I think this was in Springfield - if anyone knows differently, let me know - TIA)

    PET: "Springfield, Oregon, Police Sgt. Rich Charboneau said his department had some contact with Falls during the last few years for minor offenses like traffic tickets and a dog at large."

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/27/us/woman-kills-attacker-serial-killer/

    some links I brought down from page 1 2010 lived in Oregon or at least his home base was always there other than him settling in NV for awhile (8 years)
     
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  4. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    oh good LAWD!
     
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  5. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    ACTUALLY, so those early 2000's cases in NV, AZ, CA, EVEN CO should be considered as well as OR. Then we also have the Chillicothe girls, West, VA.... Long Island, NY, TX should be considered until ruled out.
     
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  6. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    I found a lot of unidentified body parts when looking through the Mojave County AZ unidentified records. Particularly skulls/skull fragments. Many in Bullhead City. I will list them soon.

    There are many bodies/body parts in Pima county, AZ, but they mostly look to be the remains of undocumented immigrants who tried to cross the border.

    Found a good number of UIDs remains in Clark County, NV - because there were so many I limited myself to only looking for incomplete remains instead of intact remains. There were a few of interest that I will list.

    San Bernardino County, CA I still have to check. I will list what I found for NV and AZ later when I have a little more time. Just wanted to update everyone. Takeitfromme I will make sure to include remains that seem to have a post mortem interval starting around 2000. Thank you for clearing all of that up so it makes my search WAY easier and more focused. :)
     
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  7. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    @patsella might be able to help us with the Arizona UIDs.
     
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  8. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    2000-2008 - Henderson, Nevada

    2010 - Springfield, Oregon

    April 2015 - Eugene, Oregon (right next to Springfield)

    July 2015 - Charleston, West Virginia

    What else do we know for sure?

    And here's a map of Henderson to help us out.

    henderson.jpg
     
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  9. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Three months before a Springfield man suspected of killing a number of women on the East Coast was shot and killed in West Virginia, Eugene police say, he made a false claim that someone had stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cash, jewelry and weapons from a U-Haul truck he had parked on Kinsrow Avenue.

    Police determined that the claim was fabricated because the man, Neal Falls, 45, lacked serial numbers or places of purchase for the unique and high-value firearms, according to police. During the theft report in April, Falls told police he planned to move on June 24. Falls claimed that the valuable goods had been stolen from a truck he had rented.


    Eugene police provided the theft report information to The Register-Guard in response to a request for information about Falls.

    The report provides a clearer timeline of when Falls — a former security guard at Premier Security who guarded locations such as the Ducks Village apartment complex in Eugene — could have driven to Charleston, W.Va. It was there, according to police, that Falls met with a woman who had advertised as an escort on Backpage.com on July 18.


    http://registerguard.com/rg/news/lo...gus-theft-claim-in-eugene-police-say.html.csp
     
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  10. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    Tentative list of Nevada UID's possibly connected to Neal Falls:

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/250
    (Clark County)

    Circumstances
    A passerbay contacted authorities regarding skeletal remains located near a bush in a desert area near the intersection of Sunset and Pabco Rd. The body appeared to have been placed in a shallow grave that contained burnt pieces of wood, bushes, and several large pieces of concrete or rocks.

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/234
    (Clark County)

    Circumstances
    A witness reported the presence of skeletal remains in a wash southwest of Highway 165 at mile marker 7. A skull and partial long bone were recovered.

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/7583
    (Clark County)

    Circumstances
    Henderson Police Department received an anonymous letter containing maps that matched a location in the area (5 1/2 miles Northwest of US 93 and Boulder Highway). After conducting a search of the area, a skull was found. A few days later, a resident of the area discovered a jawbone in close proximity. Law enforcement was able to recover more remains along with various articles of clothing.

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/8110 (Churchhill, County)

    Circumstances
    On 05/19/2008 at approximately 1300 hours, a passerby discovered skeletal fragments partially covered with dirt and gravel in a remote area of Churchill County, Nevada near US HWY 95 near mile marker 55. Law enforcement personnel excavated the shallow dirt grave recovering numerous skeletal fragments along with an orange halter top.

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    I lived in AZ during the time Neal was killing. Was in college at the time and same age as majority of his victims :(

    I now split time between Riverside County and San Bernardino County in CA. Legs belonging to one of the victims were found off the side of the road here in San Bernardino. My husband's father lives in Kingman, AZ near the checkpoint where Neal worked. We just drove through 2 weeks ago.

    I'm pretty familiar with the areas if anyone wants to know what's up. I have a feeling I know what corridors he probably took through the deserts to dump bodies. I have a feeling he dumped the legs in San Bernardino on his way from NV to San Diego to visit his brother.
     
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  11. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Nice job, @DaisyChains :highfive:

    I was thinking of amending my Oregon list, but with him having family here the whole time, I would need specific dates where he was not in Oregon before I'd want to rule anyone out. Also, he may have brought remains from other areas and left them in the desert. So let's see if any missing women from Oregon could be a match from any UIDs in the desert. Sadly, I'm only seeing one that has a recon. I'll add her to our UIDs now and note that we are looking at her as a possible Falls victim.
     
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  12. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    Great idea Kimster! Yes I think considering that he left body parts in different states checking Oregon missing girls against the UIDs in other states seems very important!

    I'll have the AZ unidentified list by tomorrow night. I will make sure to be more specific on info with that list. My NV list for right now is less informative than I'd like, but it's what I had time to throw up for now. I'm still learning how I want to present the info. if it takes a few days to get done my apologies - just want to make sure that I do things thoroughly.
     
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  13. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    It's okay. No one is going anywhere. And Falls is dead, so he won't be hurting anyone ever again!!!!
     
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  14. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

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  15. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Once DNA is submitted to CODIS, Lemons said analysts will know almost immediately if there is a match.

    If the lab finds Falls is somehow connected to crime scenes in Nevada and Ohio, Lemons says they will notify all involved investigators.

    I'm really looking forward to a report on the results!!!
     
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  16. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

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  17. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    me too! Today is 9/3 and that article said results between 8/21 - 8/24 but it usually takes longer than that.....
     
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  18. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    maybe it said 8/21 - 8/27 i cant go back now my puter is acting up.... I will be on later :)
     
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  19. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    So in relation to the Jane Doe skull found in NV in 2008 due to an anonymous letter/map, I found Danielle Bedard closely matches her.
    http://www.nampn.org/cases/bedard_danielle.html

    Quote from the thread for the NV UID that MIGHT be Neal's victim:

    So If Neal was free to murder in 2007-2008 after leaving his NV job... Hm. Did he change his MO and go from killing and leaving body parts starting west and finishing east TO killing and leaving body parts starting east and finishing west?

    Going to make a timeline soon to help me keep up with this all.
     
  20. DaisyChains

    DaisyChains Bronze Member

    ^ I mean what a way to stick it to the local authorities of the jurisdiction you once resided in and worked with. If Neal sent that map and letter he likely sent it in 2008 not long after he left NV. False sense of security.

    Also when looking at a timeline and taking the Long Island serial killing victims into account, the male John Doe in Long Island (was likely Moe Zhang) disappeared before Danielle. It's almost as if Neal was so thrown off in his ritual/power/pride by killing the male John Doe (thinking initially he was female) that he had to make a point with the victims following John Doe.

    after he murdered his first burlap victim Maureen in 2007 he wanted to taunt more by sending the map/letter to NV in 2008 and burying the head from the victim (Danielle? 2006?) there. He then continues the burlap ritual in 2009 with Melissa. He escalates to calling The victim's family at this point as well.

    In essence and IMO Neal had no reason to continue his burlap ritual in NY in 2008 bc he got that ritualistic fix out by revisiting old remains from 2006 (in NY/Canada?) and burying the head in NV and writing the map/letter in 2008.

    Still can't figure out why he wouldn't just choose to do his burlap ritual in summer of 2008 - perhaps he just wasn't able to get a new victim in 2008 and revisited his old victim from 2006 and made a ritual of her out of "necessity".
     
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