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MI PATRICIA SPENCER & PAMELA HOBLEY: Missing from Oscoda, MI - 31 Oct 1969 - Age 16 & 15

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  1. Scorpio

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    Disappearance of Patricia Spencer and Pamela Hobley
    Patricia Spencer and Pamela Hobley were two American teenagers that went missing on October 31, 1969 in Oscoda, Iosco County, Michigan after presumably committing truancy together, as they had both been seen walking in each other's company shortly before. The pair were aged 16 and 15, respectively, and "were not considered friends" at the time they disappeared. Their bodies were never recovered, yet it is believed by authorities that both of their lives had ended with homicide.
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  3. Scorpio

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    Picture of Spencer and age progression (right) to indicate her appearance at age 60.

    Born Patricia Ann Spencer
    January 10, 1953
    Disappeared October 31, 1969 (aged 16)
    Oscoda, Iosco County, Michigan
    Status Missing for 46 years, 11 months and 6 days
    Height 5 ft 4 in (1.63 m)
    Weight 125 lb (57 kg)
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    Picture of Hobley and age progression (right) to indicate her appearance at age 57.

    Born Pamela Sue Hobley
    May 24, 1954
    Disappeared October 31, 1969 (aged 15)
    Oscoda, Iosco County, Michigan
    Status Missing for 46 years, 11 months and 6 days
    Height 5 ft 7 in (1.70 m)
    Weight 110 lb (50 kg)
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    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian female. Brown hair, brown eyes. Pamela has a scar on the bridge of her nose and a scar or birthmark on the left corner of her mouth. Her nickname is Pam.
    • Clothing/Jewelry Description: A three-quarter-length white fake fur coat with brown fur trim, a long-sleeved blouse with ruffled cuffs, a brown and white plaid skirt, white kneesocks and chunky shoes with a thick heel.
    Details of Disappearance:

    Pamela was last seen in Oscoda, Michigan on October 31, 1969, the day of their high school's homecoming football game. She and another student, Patricia Spencer, may have skipped their afternoon classes at school. The two girls knew each other but weren't friends. They were walking together on River Road away from the school, towards the business district, when a passing motorist picked them up and gave them a ride to a gas station at River Road and Interstate 23. Neither of them has ever been heard from again.
    Patricia and Pamela weren't carrying their purses or identification with them at the time of their disappearances. At first authorities thought they had run away, possibly to the Flint, Michigan area, but they reconsidered this theory after weeks passed without contact. Pamela's sister never believed she'd run away; she stated Pamela was happy with her life and had recently gotten engaged. Foul play is suspected in their cases, which remain unsolved.

    Investigating Agency
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
    Oscoda Township Police Department


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  6. Scorpio

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    OSCODA, Mich.
    -- On Oct. 31, 1969, Patricia Spencer and Pamela Hobley had plans similar to many teens in the small town of Oscoda, Mich. - attending their high school's homecoming football game, and then going to a Halloween party.

    But they never showed up to either, and no one has heard from them since.

    45 years later, the search for Pamela and Patricia continues, and family is holding out hope that whoever is responsible for their disappearances can be brought to justice.

    "I can't move on," Hobley's sister, Mary Buehrle, told 48 Hours' Crimesider. "I just hope that someone knows something and will finally have the guts to say something."

    An age-progressed image of Pamela Hobley, who would be 60 today
    National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
    That Halloween, the 16-year-old Spencer and 15-year-old Hobley had decided to skip out of class early from their school in Oscoda, a small town in northeast Michigan situated along Lake Huron. Age eight at the time, Buehrle remembers trick-or-treating that evening with her mother, a single mom, and her two other sisters. Pamela had told her family she would be home after attending the game and the party with friends and her boyfriend.

    It got later, and later.

    Pamela's boyfriend told the family they were supposed to go out that evening, but that she never showed. As her worried mother called around, they realized her schoolmate Patricia Spencer was also missing.

    Buehrle insists that her sister would not have run away. While she said she was known to be a "partier," she had everything to look forward to - she was recently engaged to her boyfriend.

    Buehrle said she believes something horrible happened to the two girls that night.

    "I believe she's been murdered," Buehrle said. "I think her and Patty were picked up by the wrong person, and they murdered her."

    Oscoda Township Police Chief Mark David also fears the missing girls became victims of foul play. David hopes finding them would finally bring the family some peace.

    "If they were able to bury their sisters at least, bring them home, it would be closure for the families," David said. "That's what everyone wants - closure."

    An age-progressed image of Patricia Spencer, who would be 61 today
    National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
    As an investigator, a major challenge for David has been the age of the case - and the fading memories of those who could have a tip. There've been no major leads since the girls vanished, he said. Since he took over the case in 2010, however, he's gone back and re-interviewed witnesses mentioned in the original police file in an attempt to piece together the girls' last known movements that Halloween.

    Initially, the girls were last reported seen walking away from Oscoda High School. In May of 2013, however, a witness came forward saying he picked up the girls as they were walking along River Road, which runs alongside the Au Sable River, and dropped the two off in downtown Oscoda. The man said he came forward to police with the information years ago.

    Chief David has other information to indicate the girls were seen downtown that day. He doesn't believe the man who came forward is involved, he says, nor does he believe Pamela's boyfriend had anything to do with the disappearances.

    He wouldn't say whether there are suspects in the case, citing the ongoing investigation.

    Pamela's disappearance has been "a nightmare" for her family, said Buehrle. Though she works as a cook in Hillsdale, Mich., about 250 miles south of Oscoda, she returns to her hometown several times a year and keeps in touch with police on the investigation. Her mother, who moved to Florida, spent her last days with Buehrle in Michigan before she passed away, without knowing what happened to Pamela that day.

    The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, also involved in the case, has developed age-progressed images for Pamela and Patricia, who would now be 60 and 61.

    When Pamela disappeared, she was five feet, seven inches tall and 110 pounds with black hair and brown eyes. She had a scar on the left side of her mouth and a scar across the bridge of her nose. Patricia was five feet, four inches tall and weighed 125 pounds. She had brown hair and blue eyes.

    Though 45 years have passed, David said he believes he can close the cold case.

    "It's solvable," he said. "I think we can do it."

    If you have any information about disappearances of Pamela Hobley or Patricia Spencer, please call the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children at 1-800-THE-LOST or the Oscoda Police Department at (989) 739-9113.
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    Oscoda High School, on South River Road
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  9. DaisyChains

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    I remember seeing a picture of a girl in Rodney Alcala's photos LE confiscated who looked very close to Hobley. I've wondered about these girls for some time. I'll try and source the photo now.
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  10. DaisyChains

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    wait someone else already found the resemblence and there is an article about it! glad im not the only one!!!! this is the picture found on Alcala that I am referencing. It looks like people are having a hard time getting LE to compare the photos and look into a possible connection. I swear I can remember that I attempted to contact LE or Namus to no avail over a year ago or so. Most likely LE. I'll have to go to Namus next, though I am worried as they are having issues with funding and such :(


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  11. spike

    spike Bronze Member

    That photo is haunting. She looks terrified and as if she'd been crying or ill.
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  12. DaisyChains

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    she certainly looks sad or scared. like she knows something is off, but is in denial about it.
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  13. FlandersFields

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    It does look like her! If they were seen downtown, then something happened there.
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  14. FlandersFields

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    If you look at the inner corner of her left eye and compare it with Hobley's, it looks like they match. They are distinctive. They both have the same low forehead, and take a closer look at the area between her eye brows, the beginning of the eyebrow are the same shape. Could there be a computerized technology that can do a side by side comparison? I also noticed that both women have their hair partially covering the outer corner of their eyes in their picture.
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  15. Kimster

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    I used to research Ocala years ago and I remember that pic! Has Law Enforcement ever come out with a list of pics that have been identified? And I can't remember if Ocala was ever known to be in Michigan?
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  16. Truly tragic case. If they weren't friends, what is their relationship? Could they possibly have been arguing at the time of a disappearance?
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  17. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    @DaisyChains your attached photo taken by Rodney alcala looks so like Pamela Hobley; then I noticed her jacket and felt truly sick - is that not the 'white fake fur coat' as described in post #5 of thread? Poor girls,one mistake and no second chance
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  18. Kimster

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    Good catch, @Jay !

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