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Rebecca Zahau: Murder or Suicide? Coronado, CA

Discussion in 'Crimes' started by SoSueMe, Apr 17, 2015.

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What caused Rebecca's death?

  1. Murder

    16 vote(s)
    84.2%
  2. Suicide

    2 vote(s)
    10.5%
  3. Accident then staged

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%
  4. Other

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    Oh, come on! He could have used gloves!
     
  2. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    :highfive:
     
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  3. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    I was always leaning to it not being suicide, but when I saw that he actually stated that he didn't remember if she was naked or not, I was convinced that he was not telling the truth about events that night. Nobody, let alone a young man, would forget that she was naked after all of the handling of her body he did remember. Doh.
     
  4. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    That certainly doesn't make any sense, does it?


    I still wonder if the police will take this to trial since the verdict wasnt unanimous , if I read that correctly.
     
  5. Cousin Dupree

    Cousin Dupree Platinum Member

    http://www.cbs8.com/story/37878542/mansion-death-lawsuit-jury-now-deciding-zahau-wrongful-death-suit

    Mansion Death Lawsuit: Adam Shacknai found liable in death of Rebecca Zahau
    Posted:
    Wednesday, April 4, 2018 11:07 AM EDT
    Updated:
    Wednesday, April 4, 2018 10:03 PM EDT


    SAN DIEGO (NEWS 8) - A San Diego jury Wednesday awarded more than $5 million in damages to the mother of a woman who authorities said committed suicide by hanging herself at a Coronado mansion in 2011, determining that the brother of her boyfriend was liable for her death.

    Rebecca Zahau, 32, was found dead two days after her boyfriend Jonah Shacknai's 6-year-old son, Max, fell from a second-story landing at the Spreckels mansion. The boy died five days later.

    Zahau's mother, Pari Zahau, and older sister, Mary Zahau-Loehner, rejected the suicide finding and filed a wrongful death lawsuit in 2013 against Shacknai's brother, Adam, claiming the defendant confronted and battered Zahau the day after his nephew fell....
     
  6. Cousin Dupree

    Cousin Dupree Platinum Member

  7. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Sheriff's Department to review Zahau death following civil trial decision

    The Sheriff's Department has agreed to review the death of Rebecca Zahau following a civil case verdict that contradicted the department's initial finding that she committed suicide at her boyfriend Coronado mansion.

    Sheriff Bill Gore issued a statement Monday saying that while no new evidence was presented in the trial, there was new analysis of existing evidence.

    According to the statement, the decision came after "a productive conversation" with the Zahau family's attorney, C. Keith Greer.

    "We're very excited," Greer said Monday night. "I had a great discussion with Sheriff Gore. He was very professional, very accommodating. He seemed genuinely interested in doing the right thing."

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/sd-me-zahau-review-20180416-story.html
     
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  8. Cousin Dupree

    Cousin Dupree Platinum Member

    I'm thinking nothing more than a whitewash.
     
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  9. Lily

    Lily Bronze Member

    WOOOOOOHOO!

    Common sense prevails. I just feel such immense relief for her family.

    I still don't think the whole truth of Max's death has come out yet.. I wish the same feeling of relief for his Mum and Dad.
     
  10. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    After all the debate that went on in this case for YEARS, only NOW they want to look at the rest of the evidence? That's just wrong, IMO. They shouldn't have made the family go through a civil case and instead looked harder the first go-round.
     
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  11. SoSueMe

    SoSueMe Administrative Manager Staff Member

    The little boy’s death is a bazaar mystery in and of itself.
     
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  12. Lily

    Lily Bronze Member

    Oh, I agree.. lots of stuff doesn't add up there.

    I have always thought the sister had something to do with it, be it true accident or angry mishap, Few would, or could, talk about that back in the day, because she was a minor. But she isn't now, so I don't feel bad for saying it.
     
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  13. Cousin Dupree

    Cousin Dupree Platinum Member

    Dr. Phil will be covering this case on 5/8/2018
     
  14. Lily

    Lily Bronze Member

  15. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    The System Failed Me, Adam Shacknai Told Dateline NBC

    In an interview with Dateline NBC, Adam Shacknai, speaking for the first time since the jury’s verdict in April, said he placed trust in the system and the system failed him.

    When Dateline NBC’s Josh Mankiewicz asked if he could live with that, Shacknai said, “No, I really can’t.”


    Shacknai has maintained in innocence and denied all allegations made against him.

    “Apparently, it didn’t seem to do a lot of good in that trial because people will believe what they want to believe with no evidence,” Shacknai told Mankiewicz.

    “Funny, when I watch legal proceedings, it’s almost like a bedrock thing, ‘Hey, you can’t make someone prove a negative,” Shacknai said. “But this is 100 percent, there is no circumstantial evidence other than me being in that house and finding her.”

    The full Dateline NBC’s interview with Adam Shacknai airs 10 p.m. Friday.

    https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/lo...dam-Shacknai-Told-Dateline-NBC-500185592.html


    Dateline: Adam Shacknai Says Rebecca Zahau’s Family “Got Lucky”

    The Dateline episode “The Mansion on Ocean Boulevard” tells the story of Rebecca Zahau.

    During the civil trial, Adam Shacknai testified and referred to Zahau’s family as “posers” for making claims without evidence. There were no fingerprints, DNA or any other physical evidence that connected Shacknai to the death. After the verdict, outside the courtroom, Shacknai told the media he plans to appeal. He said: “I’m standing tall. I’m not worried about these posers. They got away with something once. They got lucky… They aren’t going to get lucky again.” Shacknai’s attorney, Dan Webb, said, “I am absolutely confident that at the end of the day, this case will be reversed and Adam Shacknai will be exonerated.”

    https://2paragraphs.com/2018/11/dateline-adam-shacknai-says-rebecca-zahaus-family-got-lucky/
     
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  16. Cousin Dupree

    Cousin Dupree Platinum Member

    It aired last Friday. :sigh:
     
  17. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    Well damn.
     
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  18. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

  19. Cousin Dupree

    Cousin Dupree Platinum Member

    Thanks I'm watching it now. Some thoughts off the top of my head. In no particular order. Some things have already been said here:

    The video showed Dina entering the hospital the night Rebecca died. Is that the only way in and out of that hospital? There is a witness who's 100% sure he saw Dina at the house that night.

    "She saved him, can he save her?" Why the third person? If she wrote it, it should say: "I saved him, can he save me?" Assuming she wrote it for some reason in the third person, who is the "He" in "Can he save her?" Even assuming someone else wrote it, who is "He"? If you believe the "He" is Jonah. It doesn't sound like something Jonah's brother would write. It sounds more like something Dina would write. A dig at Jonah?. :dunno:

    Adam cut Rebecca down but his DNA is nowhere on the rope. Also, the knife had no finger prints on it and supposedly Rebecca was sexually assaulted with the knife. Again, it doesn't sound like something Adam would do. The sexual assault with a knife sounds more like a woman scorned and angry at her ex husband's girlfriend. Why would Rebecca wipe the knife clean of fingerprints if she was committing suicide? Why would she use the knife to sexually assault herself before committing suicide?

    So why wasn't Adam's DNA found? :dunno: Is it possible the police mistakenly or purposefully say that Adam's DNA wasn't found anywhere? Jonah is a very wealthy man, who IIRC, had given money to political campaigns in the area. They may have forgotten that Adam's DNA should have been found on the ropes from cutting her down? Did they check for anyone else's DNA?

    They claim the knots tying Rebecca's hands were a sailors knot and only sailors would use them. Well I've seen a lot of TV shows and movies where a character is tied up and that type of knot is used almost every time.

    Why would Rebecca kill herself tied up? They said it happens because the person committing suicide doesn't want to change their mind. If in fact Rebecca did tie those knots I don't believe that they would be so tight she couldn't have easily released them.

    Why isn't Rebecca's neck showing the types of injuries someone would get if they jumped from the balcony?

    A neighbor heard a scream that night. If someone did attack Rebecca how did they silence her so quickly? Was her body checked for taser marks or possibly chloroform?

    I don't believe Rebecca killed herself, but I'm not sure who killed her. IMO, it looks more likely that Dina did it, or maybe both of them did it? :dunno:

    I doubt we'll ever know the true story.
     
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  20. fran

    fran Administrator Staff Member

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