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Search for Atlanta child leads to ‘heartbreaking’ desert discovery in New Mexico

Discussion in 'Crimes' started by noZme, Aug 5, 2018.

  1. noZme

    noZme Bronze Member

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    The message that made its way to Georgia from an isolated high desert compound in northern New Mexico was a desperate cry for help: “We are starving and need food and water.”

    The plea that an Atlanta-area detective turned up marked a dramatic twist in the child abduction case involving a 3-year-old Clayton County boy whose father took him away last December. The detective forwarded the message to Taos County Sheriff Jerry Hogrefe, who executed a search warrant Friday on a makeshift compound that authorities believed was operated by armed Muslim extremists.

    The sheriff’s news release Saturday said his office had been investigating the case for two months along with the FBI and authorities in Georgia. FBI agents had been conducting surveillance on the compound, but federal authorities did not believe there was probable cause to conduct a search.

    “I absolutely knew we couldn’t wait on another agency to step up and we had to go check this out as soon as possible,” Hogrefe said. Eight deputies and four state officers executed the warrant Friday morning and they moved in swiftly on the compound in the tiny community of Amalia, just south of the Colorado border.

    The dusty property consisted of a small RV trailer surrounded by a crude wall of old tires and an earthen berm. Aerial photos at the link show an isolated ramshackle camp down a trail.

    After a standoff, officers arrested the 2 men inside the heavily armed encampment. Lucas Allen Morten and Siraj Ibn Wahhaj — the fugitive wanted in the child abduction case. But they weren’t the only ones at the property that had no running water, plumbing or electricity. 11 children & at least 3 women believed to be their mothers were living there. The only food found on the property were a few potatoes and a box of rice.The children are now with New Mexico CPS.

    At first, Morton and Wahhaj refused commands to comply with the search. Wahhaj was holed up in the compound with a loaded AR-15 rifle, five 30-round magazines and four loaded pistols, including one he kept in his pocket. Additional ammo was found scattered in the compound.

    Morten is charged with harboring a fugitive, and Wahhaj faces arrest on a child abduction warrant from Georgia. His missing son, Abdul-Ghani Wahhaj, was not at the compound and none of the adults detained — including the three women who were questioned and released — would offer information about his possible whereabouts.

    The boy, who has various health issues that require medication, disappeared from his home in Georgia last December. His mother told Clayton County police on Dec. 10 that she had not seen her son in more than a week. The boy and his father had gone to a nearby park and never returned.

    The search for the 3-year-old Abdul-Ghani Wahhaj continues. Authorities believe he had been at the compound within the past few weeks.



    https://www.ajc.com/news/search-for...mB9qbz6QJ8O/?icmp=np_inform_variation-control
     
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  2. noZme

    noZme Bronze Member

    What is going on? What's the bigger picture here? Is there more than 2 bad guys holding women & children hostage in a pig sty? Does Morten own that property?

    "By happenstance, Wahaj and his son were seen Dec. 13 in Chilton County, Alabama, after they were involved in a single-vehicle accident along I-65 south of Birmingham. They were traveling with seven other people, including five children, and told the officer who worked the wreck that they were headed to New Mexico for a camping trip. A person driving a white Ford box truck picked them up after the accident. The truck was registered to Morton, whose address was listed as Atlanta. "

    https://www.ajc.com/news/search-for...mB9qbz6QJ8O/?icmp=np_inform_variation-control
     
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  3. noZme

    noZme Bronze Member

    more photos
    11 kids rescued from armed ‘extremists’ at buried compound, New Mexico sheriff says
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...om-rural-n-m-compound/?utm_term=.073f63f1c1d7

    photos & video
    Eleven children found in 'makeshift compound' taken into CYFD custody
    Today, SkyNews 13 flew over the compound and got a closer look at the horrifying conditions that Wahhaj, another man named Lucas Morten, and three women and the 11-children were living in.

    The strange looking property was made up of walls of tires and clear tarps hung about. It was covered in garbage. KRQE News 13 could also see a stroller next to a box truck. The area was extremely remote.

    https://www.krqe.com/news/new-mexic...t-compound-taken-into-cyfd-custody/1346711369
     
  4. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    These are the type of cases that really affect the officers for a long time as well. All those innocent kids and people.... it is pretty much our every day life
     
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  5. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Is this the only such compound going on in our country right now? Or is this just one part of a horrible group of people?
     
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  6. spike

    spike Bronze Member

    B
     
  7. noZme

    noZme Bronze Member




    Why were the women questioned & released? They were placing children in danger, mistreating & abusing by not providing nourishment & living in deplorable unsanitary conditions. Will charges be brought later? Did the 2 men have enough food & water? :mad:
    Why did the men have them there - other than available for you know. Were children to shield the pigsty compound against law enforcement? What else was going on there?
    Who are their associates?

    If the child abducted from GA was recently there, there is some coming & going. Kudos to the woman who made a plea for help, but I would like to believe I could have found a way to escape with my kids. The bad guys have to sleep sometimes, bash them in the head with a board & run.

    Why was the GA child not reported missing for a week? Who in GA received the text asking for help?

    I think this kind of thing works like gangs. Militants, thugs, religious extremists, wannabes, whatever, band with a few others, cook up more power for their beliefs & it grows. They partner with other like-minded groups & get even more power. .... it's just like gardening clubs or knitting circles - only VERY different.

    There is a lot of subversive info out there. The sovereign citizen claims philosophy is a big thing now. Where do these guys- obviously not students doing independent research- come up with that? I am definitely not a conspiracy freak, but I see reason for concern.[/QUOTE]
     
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  8. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

  9. noZme

    noZme Bronze Member

    Moms arrested after 11 children found in 'filthy' New Mexico compound with armed Muslim 'extremists,' cops say

    “Jany Leveille, 35; Hujrah Wahhaj, 38, and Subhannah Wahha, 35, were arrested and charged with neglect and child abuse of the children. The three women, who were found at the compound in Amalia, initially refused to answer any questions.”


    So they must be into the beliefs of Morton and Wahhaj & were not held against their will. The video says Wahlaj is the son of a radical Iman priest. & This was a TRAINING CAMP FOR EXTREME RADICAL MUSLIMS & it is believed there are more like this in remote places.

    (put that in your pipe & smoke it.... are these camps funded by ?????)

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    Wahhaj was jailed on a Georgia warrant alleging child abduction after law enforcement officers searching a rural northern New Mexico compound for a missing 3-year-old boy found 11 children in filthy conditions. (Taos County Sheriff's Office)
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    Lucas Morten was arrested on suspicion of harboring a fugitive. (Taos County Sheriff's Office)


    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/0...co-compound-with-armed-muslim-extremists.html


     
  10. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Administrator Staff Member

    A "training camp"? That's a joke right. With TWO men? (Along with 3 women and 11 starving children in a compound made of literal garbage.)
    Consider the source.
    Not saying this guy isn't some extremist. He certainly appears to have some questionable ties. But come on. If he's trying to run an extremist compound, he's doing it wrong.
     
  11. noZme

    noZme Bronze Member

  12. spike

    spike Bronze Member

    Wondering if this group is related to that cult in Eatonton, Ga.???
    Abusimg and impregnating young girls used as sex slaves.
     
  13. Takeitfromme

    Takeitfromme Professional Journalist/News Reporter

    That was one thing I was thinking going thru the thread. I have some reading to do I see.
     
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  14. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

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  15. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    This just keeps getting worse! :(

    Prosecutors say in court documents that the father of a missing Georgia boy was training children at a New Mexico compound to commit school shootings.

    The documents filed Wednesday say Siraj Ibn Wahhaj (see-DAHJ' IBN wah-HAJ') was conducting weapons training at the compound near the Colorado border where 11 hungry children were found in filthy conditions.

    http://www.wjhg.com/content/news/Ch...xico-compound-man-due-in-court-490352381.html
     
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  16. noZme

    noZme Bronze Member

    Yes @ Kimster

    Court docs: Children at compound were being trained to commit school shootings

    SANTA FE — Petitions filed by the Taos District Attorney’s Office say the 11 children who were rescued from a makeshift compound were being trained to commit future school shooting and “kill as many people as possible.”

    https://www.abqjournal.com/1206439/...&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=1206439

    Peaceable?
     
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  17. noZme

    noZme Bronze Member

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    https://twitter.com/VinniePolitan/status/1027287156031741953/photo/1

    According to recently released court documents, Siraj Ibn Wahhaj is accused of instructing at least one of the 11 children found on the compound "in the use of an assault rifle in preparation for future school shootings."

    so, even if headlines are playing up the school shooter training, the adults were teaching hatred & mistreating children & the women were there by choice.

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    According to interviews conducted by Sheriff Jerry Hogrefe, at least two of the children saw Abdul, described by them as being in "poor health," on the property, and that the boy died there.

    "Uncle Lucas," the interviews said, "washed the boy's body twice and buried him near a tunnel on the compound."

    Hogrefe's affadavit said the body's washing is "consistent with Muslim beliefs" and that Morten and Ibn Wahhaj, as well as the others on the compound, are Muslim.

    Each of the women, Hogrefe's affadavit said, "were insistent they had been told by the males that they could not talk about Abdul-Ghani Wahhaj and would not."

    The remains were found on the compound's inner portion on what would have been Abdul's fourth birthday.

    All five adults have been charged with 11 counts of child abuse, with Morten and Ibn Wahhaj facing additional charges.

    https://www.11alive.com/article/new...shootings-court-documents-allege/85-581614553
     
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  18. guess who

    guess who Bronze Member

    Emaciated kids but the women seem to still have full faces. :sigh:
     
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  19. Akoya

    Akoya Bronze Member

    I watched the news coverage tonight. Abdul was washed and buried in a tunnel that was also used as a toilet area. This is an horrific situation.
     
  20. Kimster

    Kimster Director Staff Member

    Even animals treat each other better.
     
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