Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *MISTRIAL*

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This woman didn't do this. I'd be willing to bet that someone in the house did it. Someone in the house looked up "How long will it take for somebody to die in the cold." Karen couldn't have done that search.

Is there a cover up conspiracy?

 
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Guess Who said:
That's why a lot of judges place a gag order on people.
We also have a freedom of speech right guaranteed by our Constitution, so minus a gag order, they have the right to speak to whomever they wish.a gag order would include both sides, too
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And still keep the right to not testify in their defence?
 
This video from the trial is quite good. It shows the scene where JO's body was found in the snow and shows when they found his sneaker in situ against the kerb plus broken tailight pieces in the snow. The flagpole can be seen in some of the pics. He was apparently 12feet from the flagpole, near the kerb. You have probably seen this but it's the first time i have seen it.

 
Tresir said:
This video from the trial is quite good. It shows the scene where JO's body was found in the snow and shows when they found his sneaker in situ against the kerb plus broken tailight pieces in the snow. The flagpole can be seen in some of the pics. He was apparently 12feet from the flagpole, near the kerb. You have probably seen this but it's the first time i have seen it.

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You need to watch the actual trial to get the meaning of that stuff.
 
Guess Who said:
You need to watch the actual trial to get the meaning of that stuff.
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The old one or the new one? I am not going to watch the mistrial. The video won't change. The pieces of tailight and his sneaker are clearly laying in situ in the bloody snow at the kerb.
 
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Guess Who said:
Her trial is over and she has not been asked to testify in the next one yet (if it even happens) so I'm not sure what your point is. This is about the next trial now. Nobody has testified or not yet
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My point is she is blabbing to the press but won't testify. She did it before too by giving an interview. She killed her boyfriend but is only thinking of herself.

If she pled guilty to manslaughter, she could get a deal.

Without a plea, she is looking at 2.5 to 15 years. See bolded below.


Massachusetts 30 days to 15 years

Negligently or recklessly: Not less than 2½ years or more than 15 years (or not
less than 1 year or more than 2½ years in jail or house of correction) and not more
than $5,000.

No negligence or recklessness: Not less than 30 days or more than
2½ years and/or not less than $300 or more than $3,000.

MA ST 90 § 24G.
 
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So she made 4 calls to her parents that morning but none were answered. I am sure she did not normally call her parents 4 times thru the night. I don't see why they need the parents phone records for the month prior if they have her records. Won't her records show if it was normal? They can also ask her parents if they call them to the stand.

"Prosecutors with the Norfolk District Attorney's Office claimed the phone records would show she called her mother three times, at 1:14am, 4:38am, and 4:42am, and her father at 6:32am - none of which were answered.
Brennan's request covered a 30-day window between December 30, 2021, to January 30, 2022, which he said was merely to establish whether Read often called her parents so late at night."
 
Tresir said:
The old one or the new one? I am not going to watch the mistrial. The video won't change. The pieces of tailight and his sneaker are clearly lying in situ in the bloody snow at the kerb.
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That's what you get for not actually seeing what happened and the actual explanations.
You can't possibly watch the new one yet since it hasn't happened yet
 
Tresir said:
My point is she is blabbing to the press but won't testify. She did it before too by giving an interview. She killed her boyfriend but is only thinking of herself.

If she pled guilty to manslaughter, she could get a deal.

Without a plea, she is looking at 2.5 to 15 years. See bolded below.


Massachusetts 30 days to 15 years

Negligently or recklessly: Not less than 2½ years or more than 15 years (or not
less than 1 year or more than 2½ years in jail or house of correction) and not more
than $5,000.

No negligence or recklessness: Not less than 30 days or more than
2½ years and/or not less than $300 or more than $3,000.

MA ST 90 § 24G.
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Why would one plea guilty to something you are sure you sight l didn't do?
 
Tresir said:
So she made 4 calls to her parents that morning but none were answered. I am sure she did not normally call her parents 4 times thru the night. I don't see why they need the parents phone records for the month prior if they have her records. Won't her records show if it was normal? They can also ask her parents if they call them to the stand.

"Prosecutors with the Norfolk District Attorney's Office claimed the phone records would show she called her mother three times, at 1:14am, 4:38am, and 4:42am, and her father at 6:32am - none of which were answered.
Brennan's request covered a 30-day window between December 30, 2021, to January 30, 2022, which he said was merely to establish whether Read often called her parents so late at night."
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Why would the judge allow that when she wouldn't allow the defenseb to get phone records of people that were at the house where he died? Actual witnesses!
 
Tresir said:
My point is she is blabbing to the press but won't testify. She did it before too by giving an interview. She killed her boyfriend but is only thinking of herself.

If she pled guilty to manslaughter, she could get a deal.

Without a plea, she is looking at 2.5 to 15 years. See bolded below.


Massachusetts 30 days to 15 years

Negligently or recklessly: Not less than 2½ years or more than 15 years (or not
less than 1 year or more than 2½ years in jail or house of correction) and not more
than $5,000.

No negligence or recklessness: Not less than 30 days or more than
2½ years and/or not less than $300 or more than $3,000.

MA ST 90 § 24G.
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My point is that the judge herself basically nullified the previous trial and no gag order has been made for this one. She basically had but had a trial yet.
Plus, without getting political, just one major and very recent case I can think of is trump having no problem doing the exact same thing.
 
Guess Who said:
My point is that the judge herself basically nullified the previous trial and no gag order has been made for this one. She basically had but had a trial yet.
Plus, without getting political, just one major and very recent case I can think of is trump having no problem doing the exact same thing.
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So why should i waste my time watching it? I don't follow your Trump argument - did he have a mistrial?
 
Guess Who said:
Why would the judge allow that when she wouldn't allow the defenseb to get phone records of people that were at the house where he died? Actual witnesses!
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You need to read my post you are replying to. I said the prosecution don't need them. What grown woman calls their parents 4 times thru the night?

The people in the house weren't witnesses to anything because he didn't enter the house.
 
More stuff prosecutors don't need.

www.cbsnews.com

Prosecutors want doctor's "dog bite" testimony kept out of Karen Read's second trial

Prosecutors are asking a judge to keep expert testimony about an alleged dog attack out of Karen Read's second trial.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

www.boston25news.com

Prosecutors in Karen Read re-trial file motion to exclude doctor who took stand in first trial

Prosecutors in the Karen Read murder case have asked a judge to exclude a medical expert who took the stand in the case’s first trial from next month’s re-trial.
www.boston25news.com www.boston25news.com
 
Tresir said:
More stuff prosecutors don't need.

www.cbsnews.com

Prosecutors want doctor's "dog bite" testimony kept out of Karen Read's second trial

Prosecutors are asking a judge to keep expert testimony about an alleged dog attack out of Karen Read's second trial.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

www.boston25news.com

Prosecutors in Karen Read re-trial file motion to exclude doctor who took stand in first trial

Prosecutors in the Karen Read murder case have asked a judge to exclude a medical expert who took the stand in the case’s first trial from next month’s re-trial.
www.boston25news.com www.boston25news.com
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They want less defense evidence so they can get a conviction. I'm sure they'll want the Sallyport video disallowed as well.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
They want less defense evidence so they can get a conviction. I'm sure they'll want the Sallyport video disallowed as well.
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Well that video was tampered with so I would not be surprised at that but that really should be the defence trying to get that thrown out IMO.
 
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