FL MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13 *Found Deceased*

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Madeline Soto missing: Florida mom begs for daughter's safe return home​

A mother in Orange County is begging for help locating her missing daughter.

Madeline ‘Maddie’ Soto was last seen on Monday, one day after she and her family celebrated her 13th birthday. Maddie’s mother, Jenn Soto, said surveillance video shows Maddie hanging out in a church parking lot on February 26 after being dropped off for school, but she never made it inside.

"I’m trying to hope for the best, but I’m scared for her," said Jenn Soto. "I want her to be okay; I want her to be safe… I don’t want her to come back harmed. I just want her back – whatever that means, I just want her back."

Jenn Soto said sheriff’s deputies are using K9s and a piece of Maddie’s clothing to try to track her scent near Town Loop Boulevard.

According to Jenn Soto, Maddie had never run away before. She said the teen had forgotten her cell phone at home that morning, but that was normal.

As of Wednesday morning, a variety of search teams are out searching for Maddie.


MEDIA - MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13
 
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Well I'd have to know which one and go back and find it I guess, but I recall thinking no such thing. Did they call someone to revive her or for assistance for her?
I didn't say she passed out, I said she came close to it.
No, they didn't call for assistance; they repeatedly asked her if she was ok and whether she needed some water.
I didn't find that one difficult at all, and having video instead of just audio, I prefer by far.
I do, too, but in this case, it was difficult.
Remember when the officer said he wasn't trying to be a dick? Well, it shows he thought he was! LMAO
 
I think he absolutely planned this murder and I think that was his state of high anxiety and stress the day prior. Of course that doesn't mean he planned every detail of after or had a well thought out plan for all. And it seems very likely it was due to pregnancy, fear she was pregnant, OR that he was worried about being exposed which could also work in combo with that, or just that she was going to tell. There seems no other likely reasons when he was just fine with leaving her alive for years on end. Of course unless he had some beyond sick fantasy related to it. I guess that's a third possibility..
When you asked if he had a plan, I thought you meant after the fact but whether he planned the murder, at this point, I have to say I don't know. As for motive, again, I don't know.
 
It's that I'd have to know more about the pregnancy tests to think any more about it and I'd certainly have to know more about before it I could decide whether it's suspicious.
Anyway, I remember questions re Madeline's cycle and questions about feminine products and what she saw or didn't see in the trash can but I don't recall ques. re pregnancy tests or much less whther they'd asked if Madeline had taken one.
And if it was redacted then it's info that came from a report and if so, it's a report I haven't yet read.
(So far, I've read two batches of Kissimme reports and one batch from Northport P.D.)
That's really all I am saying or wondering too. If there's more too it, and we would have to know more.

I mean it was a logical question pretty early eve with the public. Was she pregnant, was she going to tell... And then it turns out there are questions about her cycle, JS had tracked prior but seemed to not have that month, her lack of use of products that month, etc., the pregnancy test...

To be clear, I don't know if a lot was redacted around these questions, I'd have to go back, can't recall, but a lot was redacted in her interviews and we know that. Not sure what you mean about it having to have come from a report, I am talking the interview of her.

Anyhow, it's simply something I don't think can be answered or dismissed at this point.

And even if it was JUST Stephan worried about it, and his reason for needing to kill her, or if more than him, it is something I am leaving open as there may be more to it.

And like I said earlier, there I also her friend saying she was not on track with her period that month AND that she was off her meds. So much for monitoring her taking her meds depending on what is true there... I'm sure testing sadly of her system will show whether she was on or off then...

What do you think his motive was? Do you have a leaning? I mean he was fine with just abusing her for years and playing her bf/friend or whatever the sick way of his grooming and using her was. So why did he need to kill her, or alternatively, want to?
 
yeah I didn't recall the remark about the donut, still don't, but take your word for it, that he said this to a cop. merely coincidental and maybe because he knew there were shreds of the old tire leading up to and at the disposal site wasn't there?
I didn't hear it, I read it in a report.
Yeah, I know there was at least one tire remnant at the site but re his remark, I think it was his strange way of trying to alleviate suspicion so that he might avoid answering specific questions about it.
 
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To be clear, I don't know if a lot was redacted around these questions, I'd have to go back, can't recall, but a lot was redacted in her interviews and we know that. Not sure what you mean about it having to have come from a report, I am talking the interview of her.
Well now that I've thought about it, if it was redacted in the audio, then it follows it would also be redacted in the reports, lol!
Yeah, I don't know which interview it would have been but I'm assuming it was the one with the menstral cycle questions.
Btw, my take on that line of questioning is that they were trying to ascertain motive and whether it led anywhere in that regard is beyond me.
 
I didn't hear it, I read it in a report.
Yeah, I know there was at least one tire remnant at the site but re what his remark, I think it was his strange way of trying to alleviate suspicion so that he might avoid answering specific questions about it.
Yeah if I get a chance I need to read the reports.

I don't know what to think of his thought process or if he has one. I tend to lean towards his not thinking if there was a report at all, or 911 call, that she'd be looked at as a runaway and he wouldn't be overly questioned OR he didn't think far ahead other than his goal of kiling her.

Like so many criminals, he probably killed her to not be caught out and ended up with a TON more found out than maybe ever would have been due to his killing of this poor child than if she'd been found to be pregnant or just accused him of SA...

You won't agree I'm sure but both of them said certain things imo to avoid as you put it suspicion that may come or questions that might be asked. Didn't work out for either one.
 
And like I said earlier, there I also her friend saying she was not on track with her period that month AND that she was off her meds. So much for monitoring her taking her meds depending on what is true there... I'm sure testing sadly of her system will show whether she was on or off then...
Right, well I don't remember much about the grandmother's interview but my impression is that Madeline had spent most of the week prior at her house and so I'd look to what she had to say as to whether Madeline was off her meds.
As for not on cylce, apparently Madeline hadn't mentioned it to anyone else, anyone else that we know of, anyway.
 
Right, well I don't remember much about the grandmother's interview but my impression is that Madeline had spent most of the week prior at her house and so I'd look to what she had to say as to whether Madeline was off her meds.
As for not on cylce, apparently Madeline hadn't mentioned it to anyone else, anyone else that we know of, anyway.
True, allegedly MS spent a lot of the former week at gma's. And apparently the reason JS was having a man come who was her ex was so she could see her more (or was it that he could...?)

She was off that day, but needed him to take her to school. What had she worked that week, a couple of days? And somehow she missed her own meds that in every interview she is so concerned about taking and having so she needed sleep and they needed to sleep together (13 year old and 30 something year old disgusting man)... Gee JS failed on her own meds and those of MS that week, even longer, it looks like...

As far as the cycle, not surprised MS didn't mention it to the adults that we KNOW of, although we don't KNOW that either, but JS had tracked it and only when asked about that month admitted to she really had not paid attn. and no products used, etc., just like was not sure if 2 pg tests were still there, etc...And off her meds per her friend too...

Hardly a responsible mom. At minimum.

JMO and that's my easiest view of her.
 
True, allegedly MS spent a lot of the former week at gma's. And apparently the reason JS was having a man come who was her ex was so she could see her more (or was it that he could...?)
She was off that day, but needed him to take her to school. What had she worked that week, a couple of days? And somehow she missed her own meds that in every interview she is so concerned about taking and having so she needed sleep and they needed to sleep together (13 year old and 30 something year old disgusting man)... Gee JS failed on her own meds and those of MS that week, even longer, it looks like...
It sounds to me like Jennifer's training schedule had been difficult for her to manage and I think having missed her meds had something to do with that.
Anyway, the plan was for him to be there for about a week and so days Jennifer worked, he'd have been there to get her to and from school.
As far as the cycle, not surprised MS didn't mention it to the adults that we KNOW of, although we don't KNOW that either, but JS had tracked it and only when asked about that month admitted to she really had not paid attn. and no products used, etc., just like was not sure if 2 pg tests were still there, etc...And off her meds per her friend too...
I listened again to interviews of two friends and one whose cycle coincided w/ Madeline's said Madeline was late "last month" but then had it within two weeks and so it sounds to me like pregnancy or a belief that she could be pregnant wasn't a motive.
 
It sounds to me like Jennifer's training schedule had been difficult for her to manage and I think having missed her meds had something to do with that.
Anyway, the plan was for him to be there for about a week and so days Jennifer worked, he'd have been there to get her to and from school.

I listened again to interviews of two friends and one whose cycle coincided w/ Madeline's said Madeline was late "last month" but then had it within two weeks and so it sounds to me like pregnancy or a belief that she could be pregnant wasn't a motive.
I don't know. I'm taking nothing like that as gospel and more as Jenn's interpretation. The first day she had him take her to school she was not even working and she certainly could have if the real goal was to see her more. That worked out real well didn't it. Very bad joke. Sarcasm. Not towards you. I also did not have the impression shed' had that many days of work yet and I forget from where and it didn't sound that heavy (at least yet) to me. Regardless, there are many times she talks of how zealous she is or concerned about taking her own meds and how she needs to really watch her own mental health, event throughout the days on and after her daughter went missing, she is concerned with having her meds out of the house, refers to taking them, needing to take them and more several times. Just like so many things with her, nothing really ever adds up very well to make any sense. She also could have easily been up to see Maddie off (at a normal time of them leaving which she had no reason to think it would be much otherwise right?) because she gained little extra sleep or would have, having to be up and out the door for her labs not long after. I won't repeat what we already know of sending her child to bed with him, it would just be beating a dead horse again, meaning we know all that and what I think of it. All I see is a totally selfish woman, who treats her 13 year old or talks of her as if she's five, cant sleep alone, has to be supervised (yet she wasn't), and more and who she helped cripple if you ask me, if all true. I don't see much other way of looking at her, at all. I really wonder about when the last time she did a thing with MS herself for just fun ever happened. She talks of things of when they used to hike and things like that, all long before and past tense. She didn't attend the bday party of course due to work, did she even see Maddie ON her actual bday or do anything with her any day or night that week to celebrate? That is something I think would have come up many a time if she had, just in the course of answering. I couldn't attend the party but Maddie and I went out for a nice dinner on her birthday, or I ran over and brought her her gift and saw her for a few minutes before work, etc., etc. on any given day. She talks of how their days and nights were constantly hooked up on face time (google version) with Stephan. Did she face time with Maddie a lot in her free time when MS was at her mom's. I just see nothing much of a mother in her. Maybe in the past she had been, I don't sense she was at all in recent times, MAYBE doing what only she had to do but not even sure of that...

In most cases, it's always the personal stuff I want to know. I don't mean in a nosy way, I mean what was each doing each day, etc. What WAS her training schedule, I'd like to SEE IT. How much contact did she have with MS during that week when she was at her mom's?? On her birthday?? Etc. She also talked at least once of how when SS was going to be there, they had plans to do things so I can only guess that week her tough schedule that I don't think had even been a full week was apparently not going to be so hard, so why did she need him...

All sorts of questions I won't get answers to any time soon.

I wonder the same kinds of things in Delphi and other cases. WHat did KA do that day, when did she see RA, how was he after, where did she think he was and what did she think he'd been up to that day. What were their schedules... Was the daughter home, same kinds of questions and more for each. Was his behavior odd? What was the next day like, when did they find out about the girls missing? Did either help search?

Just examples and my reasons in any case of wanting to know things that generally we don't hear.

As to the pg possibility, of course that's if MS was telling the truth re getting her period. She didn't exactly know nor was she trusted with MS having shared with her that MS was being SAed from the time she was little was she? She also could have the last SS known thought herself pg. There are a number of ways this can go. She never told him she wasn't, let him think she was, she really was, or she threatened to tell on having this scare, etc. The question about pg tests just adds to it all. And the fact that Jennifer "apparently" wasn't tracking her that month... There were lots of questions about feminine products too, as to did she not notice, she was the one who bought them right, etc., etc.

Let's go back to him. Imo there was a motive/reason for this killing. Most likely it's pregnancy, fear she is pregnant or thinking she is, or her telling, these are the far most likely. The worst and sickest possibiity is making some type of video of it and/or fantasizing about something even sicker beyond her murder.

What do you think his reason was?

Finally, do you think he was selling materials and videos of self and MS or even of her online or sharing them via dark web and so on? In most cases, I'd think people are reaching but in this one, I'm not so sure, I won't rule it out. And that's rare. Most just jump to trafficking, and such activities as sharing such online, for no real reason, however, in this one all he was caught with for images and videos and more goes so far beyond...

There's really not a whole lot I can rule out with either of them actually. JS or SS.

As to MS too, I mean apparently she quit taking her meds but to listen to JS, she was always monitored when doing so and it was ensured she took them. Just another thing that isn't adding up, what's the truth there.

I don't think she was a responsible mom of any kind is my leaning. She did only what she had to in the last year/s and was about self. Or his sorry arse and she no longer had someone there to help with MS and "babysit" her in his "room".... She tries to portray that she was but all comes off of if she ever was it was in earlier years and then she just gave up... EVen then she had him there didn't she to be the MS buddy...

Finally, that leads me to why does she even take jobs that don't last a week or two? Is she required to look for something she can do that aren't things she's gotten prohibited by a doctor to get her disability? To me she clearly does not want to work or step up, nor does he. They are both total losers and it makes it unfair for those who are legit and in real need.

They couldn't maintain a roof, TWO adults, they paid for for any length of time in their entire lives. Or put one over Maddie's head. She lived with her dad before having MS, with her mom, I think they two were back with her mom possibly for a bit, she met SS and they lived with his parents, then back under her dad's roof where this happened (he wasn't living there, the dad, but owned it). I heard one mention of an apartment for a very short period of time and that's it.

LOSERS. USERS. And unfortunately a parent too. Biologically anyhow. Then we have the dad of MS who I am pretty sure was deadbeat as to child support and not as involved as he should have been no matter what excuses he makes. However, I have little doubt either JS made that hard and that generally isn't for love of their child...

Now I'm kind of just going where the taking it out leads me so I'll stop.

ANd go back to the original point of the pg thing and more in my last post, etc., that there was a motive or reason here and I fully believe he went up there intending to kill her and silence her. Whether about pg, telling on him, not sure but that's what I'm wondering. His anxiety and being like a tinder keg the day before, parents scared to step wrong, seems to align with that, among other things.
 
I found menstral cycle questions in Jennifer's interview with the state attorney. Now I did skip through most of it to come to that particular line of questioning but there were no questions re pregnancy tests nor were there (obvious) redactions surrounding the questioning and so I'm thinking info re two test kits must have come from one of the crime scene photos.
Let's go back to him. Imo there was a motive/reason for this killing. Most likely it's pregnancy, fear she is pregnant or thinking she is, or her telling, these are the far most likely. The worst and sickest possibiity is making some type of video of it and/or fantasizing about something even sicker beyond her murder.

What do you think his reason was?
I think Sterns association with that website, Telegram, could have something to do with it.
Now, I only know of the info re that site and that Sterns was on it that very night from Gray Hughes but I know Gray is very responsible in his approach to info and I think it's true and accurate and so I hope LE was able to find out precisely what Sterns was doing on that site that night and any other time prior, for that matter.
I think it could be from where Sterns obtained all those thousands of images.
 
I found menstral cycle questions in Jennifer's interview with the state attorney. Now I did skip through most of it to come to that particular line of questioning but there were no questions re pregnancy tests nor were there (obvious) redactions surrounding the questioning and so I'm thinking info re two test kits must have come from one of the crime scene photos.

I think Sterns association with that website, Telegram, could have something to do with it.
Now, I only know of the info re that site and that Sterns was on it that very night from Gray Hughes but I know Gray is very responsible in his approach to info and I think it's true and accurate and so I hope LE was able to find out precisely what Sterns was doing on that site that night and any other time prior, for that matter.
I think it could be from where Sterns obtained all those thousands of images.
No, she SAYS there were two of the tests although their reason for questioning could have been what they'd seen for pg tests. What I am saying though is she SAID such in the interview. HER. NOT THEM. So if you are thinking she did not know how many, and they told her, that's not the case. Not sure how you mean it so making that part clear, she said she had two and had not checked and had no idea if two were left. Nothing to do with crime scene photos in any way I could tell. It was a recorded interview, I believe asking first if MS had taken one or did she know... Then it was she had two under the sink but she wasn't sure if they were still there, she had not checked. I'm just saying these are words out of her mouth as again, I'm not sure what you're saying here and maybe we are talking of different points re that. But she said such. One thing I am not confused on.

Yes, I've heard things about Gray re SS's use of Telegram. However, he has to backtrack too and make it clear the site is used for tons of normal things but tons of normal people. It is interesting though that he got on there THAT night and I will give him that. But he's been on "news" shows now and is careful to make it clear it is not by any means all dark web stuff any more than any other social media app such as Instagram, Snapchat, etc.

It IS interesting he was on it that night. But that's it. If there's anything more to it, hopefully that is being determined. IF there is ANYTHING like this going on, I'd say a federal investigation is open and running separately we may be unaware of... Especially if it involves other pedos.

It still IS just an app, it isn't like it is or was created for pedos. And Gray has had to temper that, I've heard him do it.

BUT yes, it is a place things aren't tracked in the same way as some sites, but even Snapchat with kids is like that. Put an image up and it's gone.

Ive' even seen a show or two of Gray's (or some of a few, can't take them long) early on about this. So I am full well aware of it, ad he has talked recently even on Vinnie and others of it, but he tempers it now... Rather than getting his viewers all up in a tizzy as if it was a site mostly used for THAT.

Anyhow so yes, I am aware of it, well aware. And I do admit someone like Sterns being on it the NIGHT of her murder whether murder was before midnight or after, is interesting...
 
No, she SAYS there were two of the tests although their reason for questioning could have been what they'd seen for pg tests. What I am saying though is she SAID such in the interview. HER. NOT THEM. So if you are thinking she did not know how many, and they told her, that's not the case. Not sure how you mean it so making that part clear, she said she had two and had not checked and had no idea if two were left. Nothing to do with crime scene photos in any way I could tell. It was a recorded interview, I believe asking first if MS had taken one or did she know... Then it was she had two under the sink but she wasn't sure if they were still there, she had not checked. I'm just saying these are words out of her mouth as again, I'm not sure what you're saying here and maybe we are talking of different points re that. But she said such. One thing I am not confused on.
So you don't know which interview?
 
Yes, I've heard things about Gray re SS's use of Telegram. However, he has to backtrack too and make it clear the site is used for tons of normal things but tons of normal people. It is interesting though that he got on there THAT night and I will give him that. But he's been on "news" shows now and is careful to make it clear it is not by any means all dark web stuff any more than any other social media app such as Instagram, Snapchat, etc.
He shared an extremely disturbing article re that site.
I'll try and find it and post a link.
 

Trial dates set for Stephan Sterns, accused in death of 13-year-old Madeline Soto​

Two trial dates have been set for the man accused of killing Madeline Soto.

During a pretrial hearing on Monday, an Osceola County judge scheduled a Feb. 24, 2025 trial date for the child sex battery case, and Sept. 22, 2025, for the homicide case.

Sterns, who faces the death penalty if convicted of killing Soto, has pleaded not guilty.
 
He shared an extremely disturbing article re that site.
I'll try and find it and post a link.
I've probably heard it. Like I said, I watched a fair amount about Gray finding this site, even some on his own shows before going elsewhere and talking of it. I'd be happy to read it if you find out but I'm guessing this can be said about a few sites... Even gaming... And over the years as to which ones pedos are using... But still, I'd read it if not tons of pages long. Some types, like those, are ahead of many of us on new platforms, AS are the kids too. I don't think Gray if I recall knew a thing about it until hearing of it in this case... Or finding SS had been on it...
 
I've probably heard it. Like I said, I watched a fair amount about Gray finding this site, even some on his own shows before going elsewhere and talking of it. I'd be happy to read it if you find out but I'm guessing this can be said about a few sites... Even gaming... And over the years as to which ones pedos are using... But still, I'd read it if not tons of pages long. Some types, like those, are ahead of many of us on new platforms, AS are the kids too. I don't think Gray if I recall knew a thing about it until hearing of it in this case... Or finding SS had been on it...
Indeed, Gray had known about it and spoke of it after having learned from a friend who'd researchd Sterns social media presence found that Sterns had been on that same site.
Here's a link to a video Gray made where he mentions Telegram (about 14 minutes in) along with th most relative contents of the Washington Post article.
(He said there a link to the article below his video.)
 
I can find it when I get some time but almost positive it was the one she was on screen in. Regardless, I heard her asked, and I heard her answer.
I just wanted to hear it for myself.
So the way prgnancy tests came up is that the officer was pressing Jennifer as to what "triggered" Sterns into killing Madeline- "what made him snap" which is mindboggling to me being that it's blatantly obvious (to me) that Jennifer sill believed that Madeline was kidnapped and still had hope that she was still alive!
Annnnnnnnyway, after telling her his opinion that Madeline "probably thought they (Madeline and Sterns) were in love, he asked her "Did you ever fnd a pregnancy test at home that wasn't yours?" And she said "I have two underneath the kitchen- the bathroom sink but I haven't seen if they're still there or not."
He said "Ok....but you haven't seen any used ones in the trash?" Jennifer: "No."

Well I can see why that would hav gone right by me, I mean, if there had been a test that she didn't recognize as her own or a used one in the trash, then either scenario would raise my brow but neither is the circumstance.

P.S. I hadn't noticed it before but through-out that hours long interview (Jennifer narrated for about the first hour), neither of those two officers took notes.
Is that not rather odd?
 

Trial dates set for Stephan Sterns, accused in death of 13-year-old Madeline Soto​

Two trial dates have been set for the man accused of killing Madeline Soto.

During a pretrial hearing on Monday, an Osceola County judge scheduled a Feb. 24, 2025 trial date for the child sex battery case, and Sept. 22, 2025, for the homicide case.

Sterns, who faces the death penalty if convicted of killing Soto, has pleaded not guilty.
11 months?!!!
 

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