FL MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13 *Found Deceased*

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Madeline Soto missing: Florida mom begs for daughter's safe return home​

A mother in Orange County is begging for help locating her missing daughter.

Madeline ‘Maddie’ Soto was last seen on Monday, one day after she and her family celebrated her 13th birthday. Maddie’s mother, Jenn Soto, said surveillance video shows Maddie hanging out in a church parking lot on February 26 after being dropped off for school, but she never made it inside.

"I’m trying to hope for the best, but I’m scared for her," said Jenn Soto. "I want her to be okay; I want her to be safe… I don’t want her to come back harmed. I just want her back – whatever that means, I just want her back."

Jenn Soto said sheriff’s deputies are using K9s and a piece of Maddie’s clothing to try to track her scent near Town Loop Boulevard.

According to Jenn Soto, Maddie had never run away before. She said the teen had forgotten her cell phone at home that morning, but that was normal.

As of Wednesday morning, a variety of search teams are out searching for Maddie.


MEDIA - MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13
 
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I'm not convinced she's actually the one that wrote that post. If she wasn't the one that actually posted it, it would make perfect sense that the person that did post it wanted the phone to be found.
I must be overtired. What post? I'm totally lost. The mom said in her interview she left her phone at home.

Oh you mean the text to a friend that she wanted to live in the woods? Man I slept in and needed it and am still clearing cob webs. Sorry. Yeah in just realizing that, I can buy that or believe it possible. The thing is I don't think it was recent though in something I heard I think last night or not long ago. It was quite some time before she was to turn 13 BUT that's the first I ever heard that, that it was an older text (the word post threw me at first and I thought of FB or Reddit or something). So with all the rumors or things purported to be fact out there, was it a recent text or one like six months to a year old or something? That would make a difference imo.

I do think it possible I agree that for that reason they'd want the phone found so long as nothing incriminating between her and stepdad was on it of course...And in that case, I'd also wonder at mom because she made a point of bringing up the leaving the phone home. I am as this goes on and more comes out having a lot more trouble with mom. I was never okay with her, I just see no evidence and don't yet that she was involved or knew. Nothing real, nothing by LE, etc. It's getting harder though but still there isn't any of that.

However, while I was sure at first she of course was giving his story and believing him and didn't know herself first hand on all, as it goes on, I think she at minimum was helping sell his story and knew she was...

The Plunder video is well worth a watch. I have been back and forth on her through years. She used to I feel be a bit more sensational and she did a few things in a few cases I felt truly irresponsible and not fair. She also never used to say her face, she was just this measured voice in a video. Not that it's necessary to show one's face to do a channel but she for some time now seems to have found the right balance. She's always been one to share the FB and rumor stuff to a point and YET she gets all documents and does FOIA requests, THAT I am very impressed with and even what she gets and pursues at times. I don't do FB and such but channels like hers weed it now and bring in some which is where I end up getting what may be true and come from family, friend or something more likely true. That's where I end up hearing of what some others here maybe already have seen or read. In the rumor mill and so on. Quite honestly if I tried to and got into the comments in such places, I'd lose it as the rabbit hole would never end.

These first interviews that I had not seen and she also ran her own translation stuff and such to try to ensure what was really being said... In fact if I get time I am going to rewatch it.

Yes that "in the woods" thing is questionable as to who and when and such. Isn't it something the COPS/LE actually brought up In the first flush of info she was missing here? Of COURSE they may have been directed to it just as they were directed to the dropping her off at church near the school and so on which Plunder goes on about some too and how that is the theme, the church, the church, the church video...

I'm still not sure they did not live with her family in this house... It's odd that nothing is said about that and grandma, mom, none of the interviews make that any clearer... For all I know the birthday party could have been held there but Jen simply was at work...
 
Not just ordinary sense but perfect sense. Lol!
It does actually. Do we have a date and time on it though? I've heard it wasn't that recent. Not sure if that's true though.

If that's the case, mom had a need to insert the thing about the phone in her interview too...
 
But the mother countered the notion! She said her daughter was happy- especially so the eve prior with having had the party and gifts she liked- but additionally, she said her daughter wouldn't just leave and/or just not go to school. Indeed, she said she felt her daughter had been taken and so I think if anyone planted the notion that she'd gone off to live in the woods, it wasn't the mother.
I think I'm reading backwards. I probably came in on the last post and thought I was caught up and then realized there were ones above as I was about to leave. So my responses are in reverse as to seeing what is said, sorry.

Jenn Soto made a point of telling she forgot her phone and saying how common it was and then mentioning ADD. I guess Stephan could have imprinted his story on her and the need and that he was innocent but wouldn't look like it, etc. She brought up that phone and a fair amount of explanation unwarranted really imo.

I'm not sure what you mean by her saying there daughter was happy, that she just wouldn't leave and so on as he said the very same things.

I'm with you on there is no evidence for US anyhow at this time proving the mom knew anything but I'm getting a bit beyond on that she could have been so clueless and I am certainly getting to where she definitely was giving his story which at first would be understandable to a point because she didn't know, she didn't take her to school and it came from him, him to her, him to the cops, etc. In the early flush of things, I can see that. Her pointing out the phone though and saying a bit more about it and her forgetfulness and how common PLUS she added the cops had it, etc. they gave it to them or she did and so on... Was odd.

Every behavior Analyst I watched which we talked of above, gave opinions BEFORE these 60 additional charges AND before some further detail in the new charging documents. Not a one either do I think nor did any show play or maybe even have or know of these interviews with Telemundo where Jen is outside and grandma has one.

It's all changed my views a bit and I am not okay with mom. In fact I sounds like SHE was at home with Maddie and not him the night before and overnight. In the last week I've seen people thinking she killed her and I thought they were ridiculous but if they knew these interviews I can see why... They were broken up, he didn't live there, grandma has no idea why he was brought that morning, called or whatever or showed up to take her to school. Of course, grandma could only be told what she was told too but did she live there, is this her place...? That's a big question out there... So she'd know he wasn't there and then was...

That makes a lot of difference. Was it only Jen and Maddie in this four bedroom condo?
 
It's rumor like all the SM stuff out there but rewatching and Plunder says it is rumor but allegedly Maddie's stepmom married to dad (I think for real unlike Stephan being a stepdad) sked her if someone was hurting her and if everything was okay and she was all is fine, fine, fine, no, no. AND that allegedly she was forbidden to see her dad at a point...

I don't do these kinds of groups or SM for several reasons. It is all rumor and so much of it that it only gets more confusing and it leads into never ending rabbit holes. I guess what I'd say about Plunder again is she does the right balance with it and only adds what fits or may seem more likely to be true but does say it is unverified/rumor.

As I said back when, I didn't feel she always did that or never went with the wrong stuff but for some time now has found the right balance I feel.

She might bother some in that she quotes Chrisitanity, ends shows with a Bible verse.
 
Really need to get some sh*t done but will just add that cause of death and time of death would add a lot here. Rewatching Plunder. And who lived in that condo...

There's so much here that is not known.

And for some reason, real answers can't be found as to even the living situation.

I don't think it was on this one but another that she went to school in a different county or district...? So ti was speculated that if a notice was called or sent that she dind't show up at school it didn't have contact info for the right person... Speculation of course.

Yeah there's a lot of rabbit holes out there that I will avoid. It's enough hearing some of it from others. Just makes it more confusing in trying to clear the smoke.

This one just gets to me to no end.
 
It does actually. Do we have a date and time on it though? I've heard it wasn't that recent. Not sure if that's true though.

If that's the case, mom had a need to insert the thing about the phone in her interview too...
The sheriff didn't give a date or time but yeah, it came across to me that it was a post made sometime before she actually turned 13.
But when the mother mentioned the phone, it was in response to whether Madeline would runaway and I think what she was saying was that Madeline's phone being left at home was no reason to think she'd ran away.
 
The sheriff didn't give a date or time but yeah, it came across to me that it was a post made sometime before she actually turned 13.
But when the mother mentioned the phone, it was in response to whether Madeline would runaway and I think what she was saying was that Madeline's phone being left at home was no reason to think she'd ran away.
She seemed to be saying to me there was no way to contact her, trace her as to what she was responding to because darn it she left her phone at home and then explains more than she does some things. That it's often and so on. ADD and more. Maybe this is just what came to mind for her in wondering what the heck but I'm just saying that it is entirely possible not only Stephan wanted the phone found with the "woods" text but mom too and pointed such out... She also made it clear cops had her phone or she gave it to them. She made a lot clear about the phone...

I don't know and I haven't convicted mom yet and have no evidence but I certainly am looking at all both ways and the more that comes out the harder to buy she knew nothing. I'm open on her yet. I am not convinced of her innocence though either. I am waiting to see my pendulum or scale or whatever shift...
 
Gray is doing some actual shorter videos. He must finally after all this time be realizing how many can't take the others. Lol. I can't take an hour or the whole show of three or four hours and sometimes almost all those hours being fundraising and noises going off IF a case is even discussed during such. He has one under 1/2 hour out right now. Lol. Haven't watched, not sure worth it but he did the same with Stephan's "friends" and kept them to not all his other stuff and just the interviews.
 
She seemed to be saying to me there was no way to contact her, trace her as to what she was responding to because darn it she left her phone at home and then explains more than she does some things. That it's often and so on. ADD and more. Maybe this is just what came to mind for her in wondering what the heck but I'm just saying that it is entirely possible not only Stephan wanted the phone found with the "woods" text but mom too and pointed such out... She also made it clear cops had her phone or she gave it to them. She made a lot clear about the phone...
These are her precise words: "She did accidentally leave her phone on Monday, which is kind-a normal for her- she's got ADHD and very forgetful... so she left her phone at home, so there's no way to trace her."
This is my comprehension: Although her phone's at home, she wouldn't have intentionally left it, that it's happened before and she explained why it's happened before.
Reflecting on the circumstance, she goes on to explain why the phone's useless in finding her daughter.
 
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I don't know what to make about an "indication" (sheriff's word) that Madeline told people she wanted to go live in the woods and I'm not sure whether the mother was even aware of that info but I think if she was, she disregarded it.
 
These are her precise words: "She did accidentally leave her phone on Monday, which is kind-a normal for her- she's got ADHD and very forgetful... so she left her phone at home, so there's no way to trace her."
This is my comprehension: Although her phone's at home, she wouldn't have intentionally left it, that it's happened before and she explained why it's happened before.
Reflecting on the circumstance, she goes on to explain why the phone's useless in finding her daughter.
Right. That's there's no way to trace her, contact her, etc. Track her whatever the case may be. Along with the laptop he threw away, such ensured that. I'm no sure of your point and mine is only that the reasons by mom for saying this and getting it in there and expanding more on it/explaining could have various reasons. The first is that it's the truth and it is heavy on her mind that there's no way to track her daughter BUT she didn't know the laptop was in the dumpster if she's innocent right which conceivably would be another way to track her...

Second, just like much of her interview/story sounds, it is his story but leaving her phone at home but not necessarily as it would be more likely be something she knew, as she was the one who would have perhaps realized it and found it as she was the one at home when he took her to school...

From either possibility, there is also did she get this all into the interview on purpose or did it naturally come up in her mind and a question triggered it all and the explanation, getting ADD in there and all that...

She is clearly in most of the interview giving his version of events and I didn't even judge that as it would be all she knew a the time at least after they left the home.

I don't know if you watched it but I've now seen the other interview translated that was given to Telemundo both by her and grandma. I didn't know mom had another one, an earlier one.

The part about the laptop just occurred to me as I was responding to this. Just got up and bing when I was starting to respond and you said she said there's no way to trace her, my brain went HOW would she know that if she doesn't know the laptop (Chromebook I I imagine) is missing?!

Anyhow, my point is or was that I'm not sure of her inserting all of this into the interview and the why, maybe it was just the truth and natural and maybe not.

I'm not sure what your point is in this one with citing her precise words--does that show something I'm missing?

I've asked before but either in my busy-ness missed the answer, but are you sold on the fact mom is innocent and knew nothing--your opinion is set and formed? Because mine isn't, I'm waiting on more to be sure where mom is concerned. She didn't strike me bad on seeing that main interview everyone has seen but I saw that before knowing almost anything else much. I maintain that but in no way is my scale and opinion not open to fluctuation or change. And honestly, it is tipping some.

I will though still say and do out there that we have no evidence at all against her at this point. LE might, who knows, but we don't. We do have only the comparing of interviews to what is now known and so on and speculation. We certainly no of nothing that is evidence to charge her with. Again LE may, or may not, but we don't.

Man I love that the time change is back the way I prefer it always stay but my body clock is still entirely screwed up. The first how many days it didn't matter as the alarm is all over the place for when to get up for work with varying shifts but a day off and shutting it off and sleeping in is off. Both mornings of days off I've woken up at ten (after staying up way late) where normally that would likely be 8 or 9. No big deal as it is light longer and so on but I have a grocery delivery coming at 11 it just dawned on me which yesterday sounded late enough to me and I'm barely moving or caffeinated or dressed yet lol. I'm surprised my brain functioned marginally to do this reply as I'm wiped still.

Anyhow, just discussing and now that laptop thought that popped for me is stuck in my head to think about. Did mom know it was gone...
 
I don't know what to make about an "indication" (sheriff's word) that Madeline told people she wanted to go live in the woods and I'm not sure whether the mother was even aware of that info but I think if she was, she disregarded it.
I think if the mother was not aware it was on her phone then mom wasn't doing as moms should do and ensuring all her daughter was doing, onto online and such things were known to her, checking phone, internet activity and so on. I'm starting to have at least that impression of mom, that she wasn't hands on in the way she should have been. Maybe for real reason, tired from working a lot, trusting him or someone else to see to daughter, trusting daughter, or naive. The internet though isn't new any longer and the stories and warnings abound about making sure what your kids are doing and into with their phones, laptops and more and who they are talking to, because the risk is real. Such has been known for decades now. Of course here the predator was in their own lives...

I'm just saying mom should have known about the text about the woods. I think LE was pointed to the phone/this text early on for a purpose as you've said I think too and perhaps that was by Stephan, but it's mom who brings the phone up in her interview.
 
I don't know if you watched it but I've now seen the other interview translated that was given to Telemundo both by her and grandma. I didn't know mom had another one, an earlier one.
I hadn't known about those earlier interviews, either.
Btw, from that face-time interview, it sounds like it was the mother who'd notified the media that her daughter was missing.

I've asked before but either in my busy-ness missed the answer, but are you sold on the fact mom is innocent and knew nothing--your opinion is set and formed?
At this point, yeah, it is.

The part about the laptop just occurred to me as I was responding to this. Just got up and bing when I was starting to respond and you said she said there's no way to trace her, my brain went HOW would she know that if she doesn't know the laptop (Chromebook I I imagine) is missing?!
She only knew it was off, which is what I imagine she was told by either the school or LE.
 
I think LE was pointed to the phone/this text early on for a purpose as you've said I think too and perhaps that was by Stephan, but it's mom who brings the phone up in her interview.
Well, I wasn't saying I thought that the woods info was planted- I think it could have been, sure, but I think if it was, it was Stearns who'd planted it.
But my only real thought about the phone is that Stearns may have merely forgot it.
Now, it does sound to me like LE thought Madeline may have left on her own accord because1) they mentioned the woods info at the PC but also 2) the mother called 911 at 4:45 upon confirmation that Madeline hadn't attended school that day- you know, she said it was then that she knew something was "truly wrong"- yet the missing person report wasn't filed until late eve..
 
I hadn't known about those earlier interviews, either.
Btw, from that face-time interview, it sounds like it was the mother who'd notified the media that her daughter was missing.


At this point, yeah, it is.


She only knew it was off, which is what I imagine she was told by either the school or LE.
She knew the laptop was off? Not sure I heard/recall that. Not enough of a tech type to know if they could still get a signal on it? Maybe not.

Some cases and people for real reasons I get set on pretty hard and I am on him here but my opinion on her is still forming as I just don't think enough is known. That's just me though.

So mom called Telemundo is what you're saying? I found her different in that interview somewhat and almost had the impression she was trying to say imply she was taken and I even wondered if she didn't want it thought she was like taken to Mexico or some such. I don't know that, it's just the feeling it gave me. If she called Telemundo they also never aired it wide and from what I understand it was only recently translated and shared. Was she only wanting to appeal to Spanish talking citizens or even to just Mexico or hint someone from Mexico took her maybe? Seems a bit odd, they are in Orlando, there's plenty of news outlets I imagine.
 
Well, I wasn't saying I thought that the woods info was planted- I think it could have been, sure, but I think if it was, it was Stearns who'd planted it.
But my only real thought about the phone is that Stearns may have merely forgot it.
Now, it does sound to me like LE thought Madeline may have left on her own accord because1) they mentioned the woods info at the PC but also 2) the mother called 911 at 4:45 upon confirmation that Madeline hadn't attended school that day- you know, she said it was then that she knew something was "truly wrong"- yet the missing person report wasn't filed until late eve..
If LE ever thought she may have left willingly, it wasn't for long they thought that I'm sure and it was likely only one option. The minute they knew he took her to school and she never made it to school, he would be strong in their mind I'm sure. Or the minute the found any video either of him returning or of her things in the dumpster. This man can't have been so stupid as to not think they'd check the complex dumpster could he? Of course they would.

I don't know what the difference in times means in the 4:45 or 8 or that it matters... Just that she didn't go down to the station to fill out a formal one til later?

Not sure what you mean about mom's time of calling and filing with regard to her running away? Unless you mean mom may have thought so and that's why she waited to file a formal report? If that's even what the time differences mean. I don't ever think I heard that that one was a call and one was filing a missing report. All I heard was she called at 4:45 but LE started searching I thought and got on the case like at 8.

Of interest I think will be when she called Stephan about the morning drop off if at all and to tell him Maddie wasn't at school for her to pick up.

She has every right to lawyer up but I will say even doing so, I'd be sitting down with that lawyer and cops to help nail him with anything she knows or can give them. I somehow doubt they are doing that but who knows...

I have to say I'm having more trouble with her since the knowledge of how much he had and how long this had been going on and in her home. No proof yet but with that, the 8ish sighting of her getting dressed and the 8:19 with him having her dead in the car is a very short period of time. I can make it work but it's pretty tight and then someone said that she said they left for school at about 8:30 but I asked the host who said thath (can't recall who, or at least I think I did) but never got an answer in chat. NOT sure if that is true since I never heard it said but was it, do you know?

Now all the times could be approximate EXCEPT for him on video with her dead. He could have not even went far, killed her and returned but still makes no sense to me he was returning and with her. Forgot something? Left her in the car, heck she's no problem and went and had breakfast. I mean seriously. Showing a natural return to mom? Is there a garage there where she'd have been out of sight?

I also have to wonder how cops could tell she was dead in the vehicle and not asleep. Bullet wound and blood? Obviously broken neck? I'm pretty sure she was seated wasn't she or was this assumed, I know I thought so from the start so I believe LE said it but don't take my word on it, not sure. I hate talking of a recently alive young girl that way, the case just haunts me and now knowing she through years of this from single digits on is awful.

If she was seated, that's one place I have trouble with thinking she was killed earlier or at home and that would POSSIBLY exonerate mom or go a long way if he killed her in the car...Not of everything maybe but a very key thing.

It's kind of sickening out there the commenters calling for her immediate arrest. I will say I am not sold on her but there there isn't any evidence for an arrest at this moment that WE the public know of. Even the news and then all others picking up the 8:00 seeing her thing and calling it a lie went beyond truth. She could have gotten dressed and they left. He killed her and returned. Easily enough. He never went ot the church or the school. So yes it's doable. And she did not claim to last see her at two different times. One question was clearly about the last conversation they had. With getting dressed, she noted no conversation, just that she saw her.

So I'm definitely on the fence here still but I'm a bit less so with as easily believing she saw no sign of this for so many years. I know it's not unheard of and if he was scaring her or grooming her since young to not tell, maybe but still it's in your home... We just need a lot more facts and info and evidence I guess. She didn't work at Disney all those years either and so was she home then?

Then I keep forgetting there is now the stepmom (wife of dad) having asked her if anything was wrong or going on and so on and she said no, no, fine, fine or some such. So it would appear they were picking up on something but mom wasn't.

I will also say this, had mom been more observant, NOT left her from a young age in is care apparently (if she truly did not know) and he was nothing but a bf and it sounds like one she wasn't with for much of the time in all those years(?) and they constantly had breakups, not a great choice leavingi her with him, sendng her with him. Had she become aware, the girl might still be here.

Then there is the part where the grandma says to Telemundo he was not there the night before and she doesn't know why she called him that morning or why. I'd like LE to clear up SOME easy things that probably woudn't affect the investigation and that's who lived in the condo, who it belonged to, where he party was held and other things like that. There's some reason these things are quite unclear. Imo.

Anyhow enough by me. A long, long day and my feet are tortured and not even sure they can get through tomorrow much less the next several long days.
 
She knew the laptop was off? Not sure I heard/recall that. Not enough of a tech type to know if they could still get a signal on it? Maybe not.
She said they (not sure she meant the school or LE) tried to trace it but it didn't ping.
I don't know what the difference in times means in the 4:45 or 8 or that it matters...

Not sure what you mean about mom's time of calling and filing with regard to her running away? Unless you mean mom may have thought so and that's why she waited to file a formal report? If that's even what the time differences mean. I don't ever think I heard that that one was a call and one was filing a missing report. All I heard was she called at 4:45 but LE started searching I thought and got on the case like at 8.
Just that it appears to me that the police wanted to give it time, that Madeline may not actually have been a missing person, yet the mother's 911 call at 4:45 tells me that the mother did not believe she had gone anywhere on her own accord.
And I don't think the mother as you've said, "pointed" to the phone.
I think she mentioned the phone in her interview because there'd been the idea that the circumstance of Madeline's phone left at home might indicate she'd left on her own accord and didn't want to be traced and so that's why in her interview, she acknowledged that circumstance and explained why she wouldn't interpret it that way.
No proof yet but with that, the 8ish sighting of her getting dressed and the 8:19 with him having her dead in the car is a very short period of time. I can make it work but it's pretty tight and then someone said that she said they left for school at about 8:30 but I asked the host who said thath (can't recall who, or at least I think I did) but never got an answer in chat. NOT sure if that is true since I never heard it said but was it, do you know?
No, I don't know anything surrounding 8:30 and if you'll recall, I question whether the mother actually said she "observed" Madeline getting dressed at 8.
Now all the times could be approximate EXCEPT for him on video with her dead. He could have not even went far, killed her and returned but still makes no sense to me he was returning and with her. Forgot something? Left her in the car, heck she's no problem and went and had breakfast. I mean seriously. Showing a natural return to mom? Is there a garage there where she'd have been out of sight?
I don't know how it is that Madeline's body is visible in the car but I think Sterns caused her death (we don't know how) before he discarded her belongings at 7:35.
And I've already said this but I think he returned with her body because he either didn't think he had a good enough excuse to be gone much longer and/or he didn't know yet where and/or what he'd do with her body.
Then there is the part where the grandma says to Telemundo he was not there the night before and she doesn't know why she called him that morning or why. I'd like LE to clear up SOME easy things that probably woudn't affect the investigation and that's who lived in the condo, who it belonged to, where he party was held and other things like that. There's some reason these things are quite unclear. Imo.
I haven't heard the grandma's interview but yeah, it'd be really nice if circumstances were more clear!
 
She also gets docs and does FOIA requests. So he called his dad on March 1st...

And Jen lived int his condo long before meeting him.

Lots of tidbits verified with dates and such.
 

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