Troy Dean Carney, 44, found murdered in his sleeping bag near the Bear Creek Greenway in Central Point, OR - 4 Sept 2008

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Troy Dean Carney was a 44 year old truck stop laborer looking for work assisting truckers at the Pilot Truck Stop on Biddle Road near Central Point in the Rogue Valley of Southern Oregon. Troy was last seen leaving the truck stop around 6:00 pm on Labor Day 9/1/2008. When he was discovered in his sleeping bag near the Bear Creek Greenway, he was still wearing the same clothing he had last been seen wearing. Troy's mom tried calling him and did not get any response from the early morning of 9/2/2008 until he was discovered on 9/4/2008.
Troy's camp on the greenway was set fire in the very early morning of 9/14/2008.

Edited to add Media link: Troy Carney was shot and killed while asleep in his sleeping bag near Central Point, Oregon in 2008 and his #ColdCase remains UNSOLVED!
 

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In response to @Tresir's post on Dave's thread..🧵
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TROY
The truck drivers may have asked Troy to get what? Weed? Meth? Coke? Heroin? Rufies? Oxy? I don't even know what a truck driver would be looking for.

Troy didn't use drugs or even have a vehicle, where would he be getting & slinging these drugs?
Drug dealing isn't particularly lucrative unless you're selling a whole lot or transporting it up & down I-5.

Small town dealers usually make enough to pay for their own drug use.
Again, it seems unlikely... 🤷‍♀️

GG is NOT the sex offender as far as I have know. It does appear GG was charged with a DUII in January of 2024. The accused sex offenders appear to be the brothers (or cousins) of GG with the initials JG & BG.

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There's another male sibling of JG & BG's, an RG, and in a post-Almeda (fires were in September 2020) newspaper article his wife/gf discusses the lack of access to mental healthcare and her fears of this man and LE and other local system failures to protect her from abuse.

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Why one domestic violence survivor says the Rogue Valley needs more resources

Laura Dean says she has always known that her partner of 14 years suffered from mental health issues but after they lost their RV in the Almeda fire in the middle of a global pandemic she said things hit a breaking point. "I think that he maybe had a psychotic break because he is Paranoid...
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Dean said she was working with a Domestic Violence Advocate that functions as a liaison between the Sheriff's Office and Community Works, a local nonprofit and the sole service provider for domestic violence victims in the valley. She said the advocate put her in touch with the nonprofit because she did not feel safe staying in the trailer they shared despite the no-contact order.

"They put me in a hotel for a week, well the hotel is just down from the FEMA park where we were staying and he ended up knowing where I was staying," she said noting that she believes he may have seen her car in the parking lot. "When I went to leave to go to the doctor he was outside in the parking lot videotaping my car as I drove away."

She said when she contacted Community works to ask for a relocation she was told the Domestic Violence Shelter was full and there were no other hotels available at the time. When contacted for comment, a Community Works administrator said the organization could not comment on specific cases.

Dean said she was finally able to get relocated thanks to a Social Services program available to fire survivors in the valley but the ordeal was still not over. When trying to file a restraining order against her Garibay she said she was told by the County's Civil Services Division that they could not locate him to serve the order.

"I'm like 'what do you mean you can't locate him he's in the trailer,'" she said noting that she had seen him at the location when she went to pick up food through a fire survivors meal service. "They were like 'oh okay well we are really short-staffed so you will have to call back on Tuesday to get it taken care of."

Lewis said he would look into the claim but said the department does get numerous requests for restraining orders and like many other offices has been periodically understaffed during the pandemic. He said Garibay was served on the 19th and the order went into place on the 20th and noted that while the order was being processed the no contact is still in place.

Dean said ultimately she was left feeling unsafe and overwhelmed with the amount of bureaucracy and hoops that she has had to jump through to get help.

"Every day you are talking to somebody new and trying to explain everything to everybody and it just was too overwhelming," she said in tears.

She said she understands that the pandemic has placed more burden on the system but feels the valley needs to provide more services to those in a situation like hers.

"I just feel like they were the ones that advised me to do all of these things and I did all of these things and then when I would call back it was like 'oh well you can call back,'" she said. "What happens in the meantime if he ends up hurting me again, he knows where I am staying. I have to look over my shoulder to make sure that he isn't there."

The District Attorney's Office confirmed that charges for Assault in the 4th Degree and Harassment were filed against Garibay on the 20th. He has previous charges pending for 4th Degree assault for an incident in August in which he is accused of bear spray against two individuals in Medford.

Post in thread 'David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008'
David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008
 
In answer to @Tresir brought over from the David Lewis thread... 🧵

Just bumping this - obviously this is quite important if she was the last person to see him alive.
I believe I answered this on Troy's thread. If you could post questions about Troy's case there that would be helpful. I have been trying to link some of my answers in both places & I totally understand if we're discussing how the cases might be connected but otherwise I think Troy & his mom deserve to have his case discussed separately.

Thanks 🙏

Post in thread 'David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008'
David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008
 
I assume some of the Pilot employees were the last to see him on the 1st before he left. LW said he saw EC sometime between 26th & 30-31st before he came to the greenway...

Post in thread 'David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008'
David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008
So was he only at the Greenway camping for that one night? Ie the night he was murdered on the 1st September? That is strange he was killed his first night there. If he was targeted then this really limits the number of people who knew he was there.

Link to post about sex offender registries on Dave's thread.


Post in thread 'David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008' David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008


Also a tip about jumping back and forth between threads, which I do a lot, is to use your history. Saves us having to keep putting links.
 
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Yeah, I said I couldn't find any 'G' surnames on the register.

Here's the Level 2 and 3 offenders in Medford.


I have put a link on Troy's thread to this thread so it is easy to jump between the two. I see you have too. It is difficult when posting about both Dave and Troy but now we can jump between easily. I also usually just use my history to jump between threads; so a little helpful hint there.

Did you know Troy and his ex ? I know that you worked with Dave Grubbs and knew Dave Lewis and his sister since you worked with her too. I am impressed you really know a lot about them.
I never knew Troy or his ex. My daughter is familiar with a son of EC's as he grew up locally and is around the same age. I have found two mutual friends on FB, one that grew up locally and one who worked with her at a grocery store in Phoenix.
 
In answer to a question from @Tresir about Troy posted on Dave's thread 🧵

They could be level 1 and 2 but as I alteady said there were none listed level 1 and 2 with surnames beginning G listed in Medford. Perhaps the offences were not in Medford? Or perhaps the offences weren't proved or were withdrawn?
Anything below a three isn't published on the official website for the state of Oregon which I posted.

Regardless of whether these guys are registered there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to conclude that they are most likely child predators.

That has nothing to do with Troy other than pointing to possible motivations for him leaving his friend's house unexpectedly.

I DID come across information on FB yesterday that JG worked at the Pilot in Central Point at some point, but there's no indication of when he was employed there. ⭐

The charges against JG were overturned on technicalities & BG went to prison for a short time per the information Justice Jes documented in the YouTube video.

There are also copies of court records and interviews with the mother of one of the children and a family member who testified.

Post in thread 'David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008'
David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008

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So was he only at the Greenway camping for that one night? Ie the night he was murdered on the 1st September? That is strange he was killed his first night there. If he was targeted then this really limits the number of people who knew he was there.

Link to post about sex offender registries on Dave's thread.


Post in thread 'David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008' David "Dave" Edwin Lewis murder & arson 13 miles east of Ashland, OR - 4 September 2008


Also a tip about jumping back and forth between threads, which I do a lot, is to use your history. Saves us having to keep putting links.
I didn’t realize that he was there only one night, either. If I knew a long time ago, I completely forgot.
 
In answer to a question from @Tresir about Troy posted on Dave's thread 🧵


Anything below a three isn't published on the
I saw the link when you posted it before ✌️
Forgetting which threads I have posted stuff on now. But was posting to clarify the levels on this one too. Also doesn't hurt to have the register on both threads.
Good , better you see it twice than not at all. LOL.
 
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I would prefer if you didn't copy my posts between threads as it is confusing me now, as to which are my originals. Just link if you need to. TIA.
 
I didn’t realize that he was there only one night, either. If I knew a long time ago, I completely forgot.
Two nights if info from RC is correct. Some posts said he saw EC on 31st and 1st so I took that to mean he wasn't at Pilot Center on the 31st that night but now that has changed to EC seeing him on 30th and 31st. Hopefully LE interviewing her got it right. He wasn't there long, that's for sure.
 
Two nights if info from RC is correct. Some posts said he saw EC on 31st and 1st so I took that to mean he wasn't at Pilot Center on the 31st that night but now that has changed to EC seeing him on 30th and 31st. Hopefully LE interviewing her got it right. He wasn't there long, that's for sure.
What? LW said TDC saw EC sometime between August 26 and the day he came to the greenway, either the night of the 30 or 31st.

AFAIK from what LW has said, LE didn't interview EC or GG and didn't take LW's requests to do so seriously... It's possible they did indeed interview them and did not mention it to LW.
 
I would prefer if you didn't copy my posts between threads as it is confusing me now, as to which are my originals. Just link if you need to. TIA.
I would prefer posts about Troy are posted here as your questions about Troy on David's thread take extra time to answer as I have to link them. TIA
 
I would prefer posts about Troy are posted here as your questions about Troy on David's thread take extra time to answer as I have to link them. TIA
Some posts and questions are generic and need answers about both Dave and Troy eg the drug selling questions and the sex offender issue, so I will choose which thread I post on. You only need one link on here to Dave's thread so you don't need to keep linking unless you want too.
 
What? LW said TDC saw EC sometime between August 26 and the day he came to the greenway, either the night of the 30 or 31st.

AFAIK from what LW has said, LE didn't interview EC or GG and didn't take LW's requests to do so seriously... It's possible they did indeed interview them and did not mention it to LW.
You posted this on Dave's thread which is where I got the 1st Sept date from. If he saw EC on the 1st then she saw him the day he was murdered.

"Before that she spoke with him on his birthday August 26th. It is also my understanding that Troy went to see his (ex)wife EC between the 26th and 1st."

We really need to know when the last date she saw him actually was. LE must have his phone so it would be evident from his phone records, I would imagine. Either way, 1 or 2 nights, Troy was hardly at the truck stop/campsite long enough to make any enemies for them to shoot him IMO.
 
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Either way, 1 or 2 nights, Troy was hardly at the truck stop/campsite long enough to make any enemies for them to shoot him IMO.
Well had he camped-out there before? Regardless, I think he could have already known the person. (I've observed that transients often cross paths with one another.)
 
Well had he camped-out there before? Regardless, I think he could have already known the person. (I've observed that transients often cross paths with one another.)
I guess Troy's mum or Red Clover could answer this. Maybe he only stayed at such places when needing a ride somewhere.
 
Well had he camped-out there before? Regardless, I think he could have already known the person. (I've observed that transients often cross paths with one another.)
Way behind but that's something I am curious about. For the first how long, I thought this was not a typical area for him to ever go as he wanted to get bac to his usual one Then we come to know he had an ex wife here and friends (that he lit out away from) and an ex he never told his mom about and so maybe he had been here before to mean he had met other transients or others in some route alll did, trucker helpers for instance.

At first I would have said how could other transients ever have met or know him but as we have been given more info from RC that has helped get a grasp, yes there were friend and now an ex in the area. An ex he never admitted to his mom he ever married.

I am way behind so just responding to the first post I saw.
 

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