UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson killed in Midtown Manhattan by masked gunman in December 2024

(1) Brian Entin on X: "The CEO of UnitedHealthcare was killed in a Midtown New York City shooting. Brian Thompson, 50, was shot just before 7 a.m. The shooting is being investigated as a possibly targeted hit. https://t.co/3BXAZ1T4Bw" / X

 

[Guess Who]

Murdering the CEO wont change that policy decision. They will just appoint another CEO.

Also, life expectancy is increasing though pretty much at the same rate so the data doesn't reflect that.

It already did.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Yeah i noticed the Ca, Ny and Ha similarities. At one point it made me even wonder if he was the ex, but the ex flew to NY, whereas the shooter took a Greyhound.

I checked the U of PA on wiki and it is one of 8 Ivy League unis.

Ivy League - Wikipedia

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Yeah, it really seems odd, now if they had been months apart maybe not, but they were both the biggest probably cases of the last wk or so and BOTH missing...

Just catching up with some posts and see he was reported missing too.. But man all the same places with ties and so on... WEIRD.

So the U of PA is Ivy League. News to me. I don't have reason to doubt it just didn't know it.

Yeah I don't know. I'm not saying by any means the cases are connected but it's pretty odd imo. It's early days yet but guessing both have internet histories of some type and such may or may not come out.

So they talk of his back surgery and pain now...

I seriously would have expected if he truly had a grudge that it would be over a relative, like mom or dad.

It's so strange. Personally I think they better be looking into online groups, etc.. And perhaps they have or know...

What I mean is things I'm not going to go into but we know SKs have connected or their families, etc. Teens have done the most stupid or dangerous sh*t from things that come from online, etc.

This man, and you said it, seemed fairly smart, planned John Kelly said such too, but he's also pretty darned stupid. I mean, and I do not mean this as a joke, his eyebrows probably caught him. Seriously.

I just have to shake my head at it all. It would be funny other than a man is dead. And he just threw his own life away.

I'ts pretty easy I'm sure and I could easily too dislike a victim who is a big health care exec, and easy for all of us not connected but at a distance, but I don't know, this week I am really having gravity strike me and this was a serious crime.

Sometimes I get numb a bit to crime, I think we all do. Kids hit me hard always but we just see so much crime. For example it is ridiculously easy to hate Lori in Daybell, Chad too, because of what they did AND to make fun of them. The length of time, etc. it's been. But every once in awhile it just hits me, the gravity, the two dead kids in that one for instance.

Anyhow, I remember the age well, like his or Hannah's. I might not be great these days at remembering all details in every crime all of the time, in some I do but other things I recall well.

And if being honest in my 20s I honestly felt anyone who wronged me deserved revenge but it never including KILLING or even INJURING. You know maybe they started a false rumor so you paid back the same. Maybe they failed to be there for you, so next time they needed you, oh well I'm busy. Dumb stuff like that. I also quickly outgrew it probably by this guy's age.

He murdered. And solved what?

I just don't get it.

Maybe that's why so many want to assume they are mentally ill, most killers, etc.

But he had every opportunity to stop. He planned, traveled, got the gun, etc. etc. It's like it was a game or intentional of course. Covered up after.

So he was carrying some foreign money and $10K of cash. Where? In the jacket? backpack was monopoly money wasn't it?

I guess I had $10K in cash ONE time in my life, and it isn't that much to carry. If not all small bills. From my bro's death, all legit. Took it out of the bank where it had been legitimately put.

It can be carried.

One last thing I'd say is the cash thing. Years ago we went to Green Bay, and my brother could not even get into his room with only cash and not a credit card in case he damaged, charged, etc. Nothing to do with him, they just didn't do such. I put up my credit card for his room. No big deal. Or debit card, can't recall. All was just fine.

He though was surprised, I was as well, that he had flat out cash to pay his room rate, even more if they wanted some deposit.

Do you know how often I get asked at work if we take cash? I'm used to it but it surprises me every single time.

Insisting on a card of course would not have stopped this but there'd be even more trail. We know he planned the false ID of course, etc. Also how many times I've had to say give me a minute and go get my license plate number if booking a hotel room? Of course it was a hostel and he traveled by bus.

I'm just chatting I guess. Thinking through it some. Making no sense maybe.

But it makes me think he knew where he was going, that they'd take cash, etc. I'd bet money he or someone he knew had been at this hostel before. Who knows...

I'm also sure in both cases, PROBABLY unrelated, they know more than we are being told. This particular one is already big enough and political that things are going to go unsaid for sure for now.

Or maybe purposely said.

In Hannah's, there were no murders, etc. There was a suicide. No laws likely broken. They are completely different but the timing is odd, and the fact that both had ties to at least three of the same places. I guess that's the crime junkie in me.

I don't even think they are related but that's also hard to ignore.

Anyhow not on computer much either, just managing for moment and read some recent posts here.

Just don't get people nowadays or some I guess.

He just gave up his entire future. The rest of his life. Maybe all who do this are a bit insane, dang if I know.

Kohberger comes to mind a lot in this one for me. Eyebrows again

Neither one had the common sense to realize how much such stand out and unusual and memorable.

I'm still curious about the fliritng was it from the hostel clerk with him? And wondering why the UH exec didn't just stay at the Hilton.

But who knows...Of course I forget he'd been in NY for days.

Of course there's more to come, IF we ever hear it.

Just catching up, and going on I realize.

ANd of course someone else will now head the big corp...

And of course he was related to some type of politician which I know enough to leave there...

The kinds of cases lol I generally stay away from.

Well he's alive, most of the type suicide or die by suicide by cop so to speak. If he gets along with his family members he will likely have the max canteen money always. Not sure about butter...

LOL. Trying for some lightness. Know others deal with worse, just not been a good week, and not getting better.

Then cases like this. What he just did to someone else's family and his own.

Again anyhow............

It's been a crazy one and that's evident from the interest. Stopping and either going to sleep or finding some cooking.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

"The problem is more complex" yet his solution is to assassinate the CEO.

How will that solve the problem?

I don't think he ever claimed to be solving any problems. Though yes, BCBS did a sudden policy change after the murder.
And it certainly opened many people's eyes to the BS that is the American healthcare / insurance system, for profit health insurance companies, billionaire CEOs, etc.

 

[Guess Who]

I don't think he ever claimed to be solving any problems. Though yes, BCBS did a sudden policy change after the murder.
And it certainly opened many people's eyes to the BS that is the American healthcare / insurance system, for profit health insurance companies, billionaire CEOs, etc.

And now nearly all health insurance corp's stocks are tanking.

 

[GrandmaBear]

"The problem is more complex" yet his solution is to assassinate the CEO?

How will that solve the problem?

And yes life expectancy has increased over the years. However he is saying US is 42nd in the world in life expectancy but has the 1st most expensive healthcare system. Even if true- how does murdering the CEO help?

It doesn't.

And all this other sh*t, man I read about every other day the fear they try to put in about SS. People live longer we can work til older, age is going to get raised, etc., etc. becuase we are all healthier longer, so on and so on and live longer.

This guy was what 25 or 26.

But yes what did it fix.... NOTHING. He got same fame, but also gave up his freedom. That's stupidity imo. Unless he has someone he thinks will get him a free pass, as if any member of the public wouldnt have a fit about that.

Through this case, and the Hannah one, I thought back on some things. My kids, grandkids, now etc. and am more thankful I think every single day. I am going to leave that there because it's a topic of it's own.

It got someone a new job though. I doubt that's the reason but it's something to keep in mind. A big position. Someone will replace him, but that also points out nothing got solved.

I just don't think most of us can think like people like this. I DO though recall the age fairly well. Very well in fact.

And I am not going to talk about religion, morals, but that would be another thing, Not that the CEO this "kid" thought did not have any, but HE didn't. All I am trying to say is right and wrong should be taught.

You do NOT kill. NOW if the victim has like really badly hurt a loved one of mine, I would struggle a lot and could to a point understand that.

We have sat a foot or two away from someone that did that and it was extremely HARD. But you know what, I want to see those lost loved ones again and doing a similar wrong isn't going to get me there imo.

And that's enough of that but I am just saying no matter the beliefs there is decency, do right, not wrong.

Since that seems to have disappeared imo is where we see so much more of bad things, crime, but then I'm not saying maybe we just never knew. I don't know.

But THAT thought saves me, always has has. I WANT to see my dad again, my brothers, my granddaughter, many more extended relatives.

I don't know a thing honestly about the exec but this was stupid. it isn't going to fix anything, it did distract though.

maybe gave news some ratings. No idea.

And of course this is not directed to you, I jumped off from it but I agree. What did he manage?

a death of someone whose family is going to hurt, his own loss of freedom and accomplished and will not, nothing.

An Ivy League student. Uhm okay. So they're not too smart these days then right... Not about real life anyhow. Real life SUCKS but it is the thing that teaches...

Okay. Full stop. COOKING, it's my thing to turn to or watch when needed. And often I get when I need to but not always.

It's also so like a mass shooter, school shooter, Olympic bomber, etc..., timing you name it. He's famous now but I havent yet and will never utter his nane. And it is why I generally stay away from such.

Healthcare sucks, the whole world sucks, he's really been dealing with it a whole long time... Not but who knows maybe been online since two. But of course had money to do all this. Same with Hannah.


Half sarcastic is to the ones here who did what they did. He murdered though.

anyhow it is a general post, going to go watch some appetizer thing or other.

I don't think if I did do other SM I could have taken it. On the other hand, if I needed a major distraction maybe I would.

Talking much and wandering. But seriously I'm even "sorry' for this "kid". He gave up his entire life at least if justices goes as it should. Yo do not KILL unless total self defense or defending your child, etc. in my book.

I know when I am beyond needing to stop and I am there.

He didn't accomplish sh*t.

 

[Tresir]

I don't think he ever claimed to be solving any problems. Though yes, BCBS did a sudden policy change after the murder.
And it certainly opened many people's eyes to the BS that is the American healthcare / insurance system, for profit health insurance companies, billionaire CEOs, etc.

It's a shame someone had to be murdered before those things happened though.
Also, change that health system. We changed ours decades ago. Everyone gets free healthcare here. But there is voluntary private health too.

Healthcare by country

Universal health care by country - Wikipedia

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Ours changed just after WW2, which is not surprising with so many widows, orphans and wounded soldiers to be cared for.

https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/livinglearning/coll-9-health1/health-01/

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Well change that health system. We changed ours decades ago. Everyone gets free healthcare here. But there is voluntary private health too.

Healthcare by country

Universal health care by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ours changed just after WW2, which is not surprising with so many widows, orphans and wounded soldiers to be cared for.

https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/livinglearning/coll-9-health1/health-01/

Too much money is at stake.

 

[Tresir]

Too much money is at stake.

Not really. The privately insured health business would still be available to those who want and can afford it. We still have private health insurance here too. The best of both worlds.

People in work pay mandatory tax and national insurance. It is the national insurance that (theoretically) funds the NHS. Those not in work don't pay anything but are still covered.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Not really. The privately insured health business would still be available to those who want and can afford it. We still have private health insurance here too. The best of both worlds.

People here are too stupid to realize that. The Healthcare system's propaganda is dug in.

 

[Tresir]

People here are too stupid to realize that. The Healthcare system's propaganda is dug in.

I don't believe that's true at all.

So what is your so-called Obamacare that everyone talks about?

I guess one good thing to come out of this is that the perp will now have free healthcare for life.

 

[Tresir]

Healthcare ratings and cost.

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[GrandmaBear]

Well change that health system. We changed ours decades ago. Everyone gets free healthcare here. But there is voluntary private health too.

Healthcare by country

Universal health care by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ours changed just after WW2, which is not surprising with so many widows, orphans and wounded soldiers to be cared for.

Not sure about anyone else, but I, and I think most people would never brag about our health care system. It's a disaster.

Imo anyhow.

Everyone I've ever known who works in any part of the industry as far as nurses, doctors, CNAs, whether nursing homes, hospitals will tell you the nightmare. Most go into it because they truly want to help but the red tape, paperwork, insurance problems is what they end up dealing with and it's a nightmare.

Medicare (retirement) is another story. A person could go on and on.

I'm staying away from much because it's all a rabbit hole with subjects all over one could go down.

But back to this guy.

Nothing justifies what he did. And he accomplished nothing but giving up his own life as well. Not sure how anyone could see it any differently.

Yes another CEO will just go into place, if anything shapes up, it won't last.

I think most of us, I know I would, would shape up this world if we could but no one can. Or this country. Health care. Etc. We sure can't. Not the little guy.

This guy is what 26? He hasn't lived life long enough to know sh*t. Smart but then not smart.

He might think he knows sh*t but he sure doesn't have any life experience with sh*t.

I guess I've fallen down on it in the sense I don't want to look at more details. He wanted attn and he got it. I'm not going to give him any more. You don't solve problems by murder. Although God forbid, I guess many these days think you can. Well hopefully not many, but enough these days.

We might be up once at the same hour lol. I can't sleep, it's about 2 a.m.

I wrote this a few hours ago but never posted. It's now 4 a.m.

He is NOT A HERO. NAH. Nope. NAH stands for it. That is my nickname for him, NOT A HERO.

You don't murder unless self defense, protecting your child, etc. What's wrong with people... Murder is serious. I don't care if the victim is the worst person in the world.. I'm not saying he was, I'm saying murder is not a LIGHT thing. Seems it is becoming that way though.

Of course I feel differently when someone is convicted and about the DP but that's not planning and killing some person on the street. That is someone who has done something and it is known he has done it. And i don't agree with that if there's any doubt.

Anyhow, that's enough from me.

Every day I am more glad that I was born and raised when I was lately. That I live where I do, I hate winter, but still, it's "normal" with overall sane people.

Anyhow he is no HERO. God forbid anyone thinks that but some seem to.

 

[Tresir]

Not sure about anyone else, but I, and I think most people would never brag about our health care system. It's a disaster.

Imo anyhow.

Everyone I've ever known who works in any part of the industry as far as nurses, doctors, CNAs, whether nursing homes, hospitals will tell you the nightmare. Most go into it because they truly want to help but the red tape, paperwork, insurance problems is what they end up dealing with and it's a nightmare.

Medicare (retirement) is another story. A person could go on and on.

I'm staying away from much because it's all a rabbit hole with subjects all over one could go down.

But back to this guy.

Nothing justifies what he did. And he accomplished nothing but giving up his own life as well. Not sure how anyone could see it any differently.

Yes another CEO will just go into place, if anything shapes up, it won't last.

I think most of us, I know I would, would shape up this world if we could but no one can. Or this country. Health care. Etc. We sure can't. Not the little guy.

This guy is what 26? He hasn't lived life long enough to know sh*t. Smart but then not smart.

He might think he knows sh*t but he sure doesn't have any life experience with sh*t.

I guess I've fallen down on it in the sense I don't want to look at more details. He wanted attn and he got it. I'm not going to give him any more. You don't solve problems by murder. Although God forbid, I guess many these days think you can. Well hopefully not many, but enough these days.

We might be up once at the same hour lol. I can't sleep, it's about 2 a.m.

I wrote this a few hours ago but never posted. It's now 4 a.m.

He is NOT A HERO. NAH. Nope. NAH stands for it. That is my nickname for him, NOT A HERO.

You don't murder unless self defense, protecting your child, etc. What's wrong with people... Murder is serious. I don't care if the victim is the worst person in the world.. I'm not saying he was, I'm saying murder is not a LIGHT thing. Seems it is becoming that way though.

Of course I feel differently when someone is convicted and about the DP but that's not planning and killing some person on the street. That is someone who has done something and it is known he has done it. And i don't agree with that if there's any doubt.

Anyhow, that's enough from me.

Every day I am more glad that I was born and raised when I was lately. That I live where I do, I hate winter, but still, it's "normal" with overall sane people.

Anyhow he is no HERO. God forbid anyone thinks that but some seem to.

Definitely NAH but, a bit like 9/11, it has highlighted a problem. He will end up irrelevant like those 9/11 perps yet change happened afterwards.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

I don't believe that's true at all.

So what is your so-called Obamacare that everyone talks about?

I guess one good thing to come out of this is that the perp will now have free healthcare for life.

Obama care is going to be killed off by Trump and replaced with "Concepts of a plan"

Too many people here are misinformed about how universal health care works. Some people believe you'll have to wait months in order to get emergency bypass surgery. (I'm absolutely serious about that.) They've heard you have to wait months for surgery and are incapable of making a difference between elective surgery and emergency surgery.

 

[Tresir]

Some additional info in this article at the bottom.







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Luigi Mangione's Family Speaks Out Over Arrest​

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The family of the suspect arrested in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson said they are "shocked and devastated."


Luigi Mangione, a 26-year-old Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland real estate family, was arrested in Altoona, Pennsylvania, on Monday.

Thompson, 50, was shot on a New York sidewalk early last Wednesday as he walked to his company's annual investor conference at the New York Hilton Midtown.

"Unfortunately, we cannot comment on news reports regarding Luigi Mangione," Mangione's family said in a statement that was posted on social media late on Monday by his cousin, Maryland lawmaker Nino Mangione. "We only know what we have read in the media."


The statement added: "Our family is shocked and devastated by Luigi's arrest. We offer our prayers to the family of Brian Thompson and we ask people to pray for all involved. We are devastated by this news."

Prosecutors in New York filed murder and other charges against Mangione on Monday night, according to The Associated Press.

He remained in jail in Pennsylvania, where he was charged with possession of an unlicensed firearm, forgery and providing false identification to police. During an arraignment in Pennsylvania on Monday night, he reportedly suggested that evidence may have been "planted" on him.


Mangione was arrested after a customer in a McDonald's restaurant in Altoona noticed that he resembled the man in the surveillance photos that police in New York had publicized after the shooting.

Luigi Mangione has been arrested in Altoona, Pennsylvania, over the killing of Brian Thompson. In a statement Mangione's family said they were "shocked and devastated." Facebook/Luigi Mangione
He purportedly initially gave police a fake driver's license and a false name, but when an officer asked him whether he had been to New York recently, he "became quiet and started to shake," according to a criminal complaint obtained by Newsweek.


New York Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch said at a news conference on Monday that Mangione was carrying a gun like the one used to kill Thompson and the same New Jersey fake ID that the suspect had used to check into a New York hostel days before the shooting, along with a U.S. passport and other fraudulent IDs.

NYPD Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenny said Mangione was also carrying a three-page, handwritten note that expressed "ill will toward corporate America."

Kenny said the Altoona Police Department was in possession of the note, adding that "we don't think there's any specific threats to other people mentioned in that document."

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Luigi Mangione's Family Details​

Mangione is a scion of an influential Maryland real estate family.

His grandfather, Nicholas Mangione, was a self-made real estate developer who owned country clubs, nursing homes and a radio station, according to an obituary in the Baltimore Sun.


He died in 2008 following a stroke, according to The Baltimore Banner, while his wife Mary Mangione died from Parkinson's disease complications in 2023.

The couple had 10 children and 37 grandchildren, according to the Sun.

Nicholas Mangione was born in Baltimore's Little Italy. His father was an Italian immigrant who could not read or write and worked in the city water department until his death from pneumonia.

Nicholas Mangione told the Sun in 1995 that he had started working at the age of 11 after his father's death. He enlisted in the Navy just before his 18th birthday and after returning to the U.S., he worked as a contractor for two decades.


Then, he began building and owning nursing homes, office buildings and hospitals. He and his wife Mary Mangione purchased Turf Valley Country Club, now known as Turf Valley Resort, in 1978.

"People thought I needed money from the Mafia to buy this place," he told the Sun. "They asked me what family I belonged to. I told them, 'I belong to the Mangione family. The Mangione family of Baltimore County.'"

In the 1980s, the family bought what would become the Hayfields County Club and WCBM-AM, a conservative talk radio station. They also founded the nursing home company Lorien Health Services.

Nicholas and Mary Mangione also established the Mangione Family Foundation, which has supported hospitals, colleges and universities in the Baltimore area.


He told the Sun in 1995 that he was passing the torch to his eldest sons.

"I didn't have two nickels to rub together when my father died when I was 11, yet I still became a millionaire," he said. "What other country can you do that in? None that I can think of."

One of Mangione's cousins, Nino Mangione, has served in the Maryland House of Delegates since 2019. His Facebook page describes him as a "conservative Republican fighting for freedom and the future of Maryland."

Update 12/10/24, 3:40 a.m. ET: This article has been updated with additional information.

 

[Kimster]

This is allegedly the "manifesto", or part of it.

Exclusive: Luigi's Manifesto

Read the manifesto the media refused to publish

www.kenklippenstein.com

“To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”

So the motive was indeed what most people thought it was about. So many lives are now ruined and I don’t think it’s going to change a doggone thing in the health insurance world.

 

[Kimster]

I don't think he ever claimed to be solving any problems. Though yes, BCBS did a sudden policy change after the murder.
And it certainly opened many people's eyes to the BS that is the American healthcare / insurance system, for profit health insurance companies, billionaire CEOs, etc.

They did? I missed that part.

 

[Guess Who]

They did? I missed that part.

Yes! Just a day or two prior to this they announced (or it became public, anyway) that they were going to start denying coverage of anesthesia for any extra time so people that ran into complications could easily run into tens of thousands of dollars by no fault of theirs. The next day after this, they announced they were reversing it. This is also after it was apparent that their stocks were tumbling after it was made public, then even more the day after this murder. THAT is when they reversed it. It's also renewal time and I am sure between the stocks tumbling and many not renewing with them for this very reason is why they changed their minds. It definitely was not due to the concern of their customers.

 

[Guess Who]

This is allegedly the "manifesto", or part of it.

Exclusive: Luigi's Manifesto

Read the manifesto the media refused to publish

www.kenklippenstein.com

“To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”

Yeah, I'm not so sure this is his unless he had somebody publish it for him. People have shown that it was published after he was arrested. How did they get a copy of it unless they were instructed to publish it when and if he was arrested?

 

[RoundPeg]

So the motive was indeed what most people thought it was about. So many lives are now ruined and I don’t think it’s going to change a doggone thing in the health insurance world.

And it won't. A man was stalked and gunned down by a criminal.

Not directed at you, personally. IMO it's just so disgusting to me that so many people have said he deserved it and such.