JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events

• April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
• December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
• February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
• February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
• June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
• July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
• August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
• September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
• September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
• September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
• September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
• October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
• October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
• October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
• October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
• Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
• November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
• November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
• December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
• December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
• December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
• January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
• January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

The latest timeline in the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell cases - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

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[GrandmaBear]

I keep thinking about this testimony and I’m starting to wonder if they were actually planning on killing Charles that morning. I think they were planning on letting Charles take JJ to school and then they would do their dirty deed another time. But Lori got a hold of Charles’s phone and exploded when she saw texts from Adam and from Nancy Jo. A big fight between Charles and Lori gave Alex the excuse to go ahead and get rid of “Ned” sooner rather than later. Tylee’s interview makes a lot more sense with this scenario, too. She’s the only one who was interviewed that I can believe at all.

I don't know. They knew things beforehand. I think it was planned and Tylee was used which is why she seems truthful. Things were heating up, Charles knew about Chad, etc., etc., etc. Alex came over and stayed and if I have it right, with extra ammunition too. I think the plan was to kill him but she wanted that phone no doubt. AND she wanted that life insurance. I think the plan may have been sped up, possibly, when knowing he was coming to town. I have watched enough things now that the fact he and Adam were coming to town put them like on alert. I don't think they ever planned to let Charles to take JJ to school or leave that house. She did need the phone though to get rid of evidence and see what he was up to.

It is interesting you think that though. And I mean to each their own opinion but I haven't changed my mind that this was an intentional ambush. Kay thinks the same. And others. Lori knew plenty already before she ever had that phone. I don't even know that she wanted it to know things so much as to get rid of things on it. I mean she was stupid in that same way with some of her own not realizing they could do the I Cloud thing or find things other ways and recover them. And it was only a short time later the kids end up dead, she starts pressuring Chad to do his part and kill his wife, etc.

IT is interesting you think that though. Makes me wonder what the jurors are thinking who know less than us.

 

[Tresir]

I don't know. They knew things beforehand. I think it was planned and Tylee was used which is why she seems truthful. Things were heating up, Charles knew about Chad, etc., etc., etc. Alex came over and stayed and if I have it right, with extra ammunition too. I think the plan was to kill him but she wanted that phone no doubt. AND she wanted that life insurance. I think the plan may have been sped up, possibly, when knowing he was coming to town. I have watched enough things now that the fact he and Adam were coming to town put them like on alert. I don't think they ever planned to let Charles to take JJ to school or leave that house. She did need the phone though to get rid of evidence and see what he was up to.

It is interesting you think that though. And I mean to each their own opinion but I haven't changed my mind that this was an intentional ambush. Kay thinks the same. And others. Lori knew plenty already before she ever had that phone. I don't even know that she wanted it to know things so much as to get rid of things on it. I mean she was stupid in that same way with some of her own not realizing they could do the I Cloud thing or find things other ways and recover them. And it was only a short time later the kids end up dead, she starts pressuring Chad to do his part and kill his wife, etc.

IT is interesting you think that though. Makes me wonder what the jurors are thinking who know less than us.

Thing is it has to be planned for it to be conspiracy. So the planning of it has to be proved. I will be interested to see if they have Lori and Alex' phones.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I will say this, and it is not an easy thing to say. We all have a way of making lost loved ones perfect, and victims even more so. Lori is a total liar but some of the things she said may have been true. I mean she said Charles traveled and that way he did not have to take care of JJ. She accuses him of an affair. Just some examples. I'm not saying either thing is true but there can be some truth in things even with liars. I do think she had resentment towards him if we could take away her nutty religious thing and just look at it as a marriage that wasn't going well. He probably was not perfect. I don't think he could have won with her regardless EVER but he probably was not a perfect man, no one is. I don't believe he was chasing her around with a bat.

She was hinting at a steroid use thing yesterday.

It's hard to know with her if there is any truth in anything. However, it is really hard also to know what truths there sometimes are with liars, that is the problem with liars. It is pretty clear the relationship of Tylee and Charles wasn't good at this point either. That's been not denied by Kay for instance. Lori makes the point a lot of the only one Charles cared about was JJ. There could be some truth to that.

But it is all so convoluted knowing she killed her own kids so why did she even care if he didn't care about them? Colby too. That came up somewhere. Because of all she did, it is hard to know what else is true.

I think she is someone that needed total attention and did not like the man being off or gone or traveling, yet she wanted that money coming in, a total juvenile that needs constant attention and help and probably sex quite honestly but they could not support her in the way she wanted without going to work (all her husbands probably).

I recall something said back when can't recall by who but she never wanted to adopt JJ, he did. Then however she got the full time job of such.

It's so hard to know some things here and I doubt we ever will.

NJ talks of how nice he was about Lori despite all of the problems. However, my mom has always talked about what she calls a dating face. What she means by that is how all put on their best look and face when first dating to come across as a good person. Your best face forward, and maybe not always the most truthful one.

I'm not even sure what my point is other than Charles was probably not perfect but there is no way to tell with all Lori has done and lied about. In a normal marriage without her murdering soul we might see there were reasons for her to be unhappy. It is all eclipsed though of course by all she did and all the murders.

I think in a weird way she is trying to show that re Charles but she doesn't get she eclipsed it all by murdering. I don't think though any man could have kept her happy for long. They would have to have money coming in loads without ever having to go to work and being home to take care of all and showering attention on her every second. That is who I think she is.

No idea if I came to any sense here of a point.

I think Charles was somewhat traditional and she was to be the one at home while he traveled. That in itself can be hard if the relationship is not strong with a lot of trust. Who knows. But when Lori lacks attention, she is going to find it somewhere.

I could go on. The woman has NEVER been an adult imo. She shows that now, in court. It's all very hard to sort out with what she did. I just think I guess that taking that all away, there were still problems in this marriage.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Thing is it has to be planned for it to be conspiracy. So the planning of it has to be proved. I will be interested to see if they have Lori and Alex' phones.

I am pretty sure the big thing yet to come in are texts between her and Charles and her and Alex. Nate showed some of them before trial. I am drawing a blank on how they get them in, maybe through LE or a cell phone person?

To me it WAS planned. Nothing has changed my mind on that. Yes, the jury though has to be shown that or enough to connect the obvious dots.

 

[GrandmaBear]

12 minutes.

 

[GrandmaBear]

So two jurors yesterday reported for talking of social security. Judge questioned, jurors remained.

 

[GrandmaBear]

 

[Kimster]

I don't know. They knew things beforehand. I think it was planned and Tylee was used which is why she seems truthful. Things were heating up, Charles knew about Chad, etc., etc., etc. Alex came over and stayed and if I have it right, with extra ammunition too. I think the plan was to kill him but she wanted that phone no doubt. AND she wanted that life insurance. I think the plan may have been sped up, possibly, when knowing he was coming to town. I have watched enough things now that the fact he and Adam were coming to town put them like on alert. I don't think they ever planned to let Charles to take JJ to school or leave that house. She did need the phone though to get rid of evidence and see what he was up to.

It is interesting you think that though. And I mean to each their own opinion but I haven't changed my mind that this was an intentional ambush. Kay thinks the same. And others. Lori knew plenty already before she ever had that phone. I don't even know that she wanted it to know things so much as to get rid of things on it. I mean she was stupid in that same way with some of her own not realizing they could do the I Cloud thing or find things other ways and recover them. And it was only a short time later the kids end up dead, she starts pressuring Chad to do his part and kill his wife, etc.

IT is interesting you think that though. Makes me wonder what the jurors are thinking who know less than us.

I'm going to stick with this for now, until testimony changes my mind. The good news is that no matter what the jury decides, Lori will remain behind bars in Idaho!

 

[Kimster]

Thing is it has to be planned for it to be conspiracy. So the planning of it has to be proved. I will be interested to see if they have Lori and Alex' phones.

Ynclan said she got the phone from Lori and Tylee the day Charles was murdered. They also gave her the PW to unlock the phone.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'm going to stick with this for now, until testimony changes my mind. The good news is that no matter what the jury decides, Lori will remain behind bars in Idaho!

You certainly have the right to any opinion. Still a bit surprised I guess. Plus they were just so as all put it nonchalant about it, planned imo, story figured.

Very true about behind bars either way but I want this conviction on top of that. I want triple safety. Lol.

 

[Kimster]

Lori apologizes for not reviewing her paperwork, but not for killing their family. What a *****.

 

[Kimster]

You certainly have the right to any opinion. Still a bit surprised I guess. Plus they were just so as all put it nonchalant about it, planned imo, story figured.

Very true about behind bars either way but I want this conviction on top of that. I want triple safety. Lol.

I don't know if I'm right or not. I'm just using this scenario to make it make sense in my head for now until new info comes out to change it. Something I like to do.

 

[Kimster]

Here's more testimony about LE getting Charles' phone that day. She testified that she (Ynclan) did not take Lori or Tylee's phones.

 

[Kimster]

Yes, Lori and Charles were arguing about the phone before Tylee came out of her room.

 

[Kimster]

Sorry I keep copying tweets, but this is good stuff about the timeline.

 

[Kimster]

Oops. Lori lied.

ETA: Wait, maybe she didn't. Maybe Alex was busy cleaning up.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Lori apologizes for not reviewing her paperwork, but not for killing their family. What a *****.

She subpoenaed Larry AND the brother of Charles, Bobby I think? Nice way to wreck their world and she claimed not to have looked, just signed a pile of subpoeonaes. Bullsh*t. Larry across the country with his granddaughter. So it isn't just the doxing but he may have HAD to travel for no reason as I doubt he'd ignore a court order of any kind.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I don't know if I'm right or not. I'm just using this scenario to make it make sense in my head for now until new info comes out to change it. Something I like to do.

I get it. I mean why you think that.

Today is sure adding more though. Her timeline doesn't work for one. Lots. There was something else I was going to point out but forgot what it was lol.

The feed this morning was lousy, at least on Nate's. Kept going out. Or Sound off. Buffering. Etc.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Yes, Lori and Charles were arguing about the phone before Tylee came out of her room.

That's one of the other things. And she SAID she wouldn't give it back to him. I mean she must have thought herself so immune from the cops. Crazy. She also had his wallet and hotel room key card.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Sorry I keep copying tweets, but this is good stuff about the timeline.

My personal opinion is the fuller the thread with the facts or coverage, the better, for anyone who finds it in the future or for anyone wanting to go back and find something. That's something I'm not good at lol but others are. Jmo.