AHMAUD ARBERY: Georgia vs Greg & Travis McMichael & William Bryan for murder *GUILTY*

Mother seeks justice after son shot while jogging in Brunswick, pair involved in killing not arrested

It’s been over two months since a young black man jogging in Brunswick, Ga., was gunned down by two white men...

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Mother seeks justice after son shot while jogging in Brunswick, pair involved in killing not arrested

It’s been over two months since a young black man jogging in Brunswick, Ga., was gunned down by two white men who said they thought he was a possible burglar.

Ahmaud Arbery’s mother wants to know where is the justice.

“I just think about how they could allow these two men to kill my son and not be arrested, that’s what I can’t understand,” Wanda Cooper told news partner First Coast News.

A police report states about 1 p.m. Sunday, Feb. 23, Glynn County officers responded to Satilla and Holmes drives where shots were fired. They found Arbery, 25, dead on the scene.

Gregory McMichael, who worked several years for the Brunswick Police Department before serving as an investigator in the Brunswick District Attorney’s Office, told police there were several break-ins in the neighborhood. He said he saw Arbery running down Satilla Drive and asked his son Travis McMichael to help him confront him.

McMichael and his son got a shotgun and handgun because they “didn’t know if Arbery was armed or not.”

The father and son got into their truck and drove down Satilla toward Burford Drive. Gregory McMichael stated when they arrived at Holmes Drive, they saw Arbery running down Burford, according to the report.

Gregory McMichael told police they attempted to cut off Arbery and shouted “stop, stop, we want to talk to you.”

McMichael pulled up next to Arbery, and Travis McMichael got out of the truck with the shotgun. According to statements, that’s when the father said Arbery attacked his son and the two men started fighting over the shotgun. Travis McMichael fired a shot and then a second shot.

After video appears to show black jogger gunned down by 2 white men in coastal Georgia, family demands arrests

The fatal shooting of a black man — apparently recorded on video in February and posted online Tuesday by a local radio station host — will go to a grand jury in coastal Georg…

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After video appears to show black jogger gunned down by 2 white men in coastal Georgia, family demands arrests

The fatal shooting of a black man — apparently recorded on video in February and posted online Tuesday by a local radio station host — will go to a grand jury in coastal Georgia, according to a district attorney.

Elements of the disturbing video are consistent with a description of the shooting given to police by one of those involved in the incident.

Ahmaud Arbery, 25, was jogging in a neighborhood outside Brunswick on February 23 when a former police officer and his son chased him down, authorities said. According to a Glynn County Police report, Gregory McMichael later told officers that he thought Arbery looked like a person suspected in a series of recent break-ins in the area.

After they chased down Arbery, McMichael told police, Arbery and McMichael’s son Travis struggled over his son’s shotgun. McMichael said two shots were fired before Arbery fell to the street, the report said.


S. Lee Merritt, an attorney for the Arbery family, said in a statement that the two men involved in the chase “must be taken into custody pending their indictment.”

Gov. Brian Kemp said the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has offered resources to Durden for his investigation. “Georgians deserve answers,” Kemp tweeted.

Kemp also retweeted the GBI’s post that Durden “formally requested the GBI to investigate the death of Ahmaud Arbery.”

 

[GrandmaBear]

I understand you interpret it differently. It's going to come down to how the jury interprets it. And unlike yourself and others here, I believe they are going to seriously consider the repeated night time entries by Arbery when trying to determine what his intent was.

Repeated night time entries? He has never been identified to my knowledge and certainly not identified several times. They can't consider something if they can't say beyond a shadow of a doubt it was him. If they saw him in there before and steal before and could identify him, he would have been charged.

Lots of people carry loaded guns in their pockets every day, even in "broad daylight". I'm not sure why you think that's so unusual.

Wow, pretty stupid then to go looking for a gun fight without adequate cause for one.

 

[Guess Who]

I understand you interpret it differently. It's going to come down to how the jury interprets it. And unlike yourself and others here, I believe they are going to seriously consider the repeated night time entries by Arbery when trying to determine what his intent was.

Well, the three of them are all in jail now, so I'm pretty sure we interrupted it correctly.

 

[Guess Who]

Lots of people carry loaded guns in their pockets every day, even in "broad daylight". I'm not sure why you think that's so unusual.

Have you ever tried going for a run in running clothes and tried to keep a loaded gun in place with loose fit clothing? Cops say that the slacking of the pants thing is their greatest gift criminals have given them because they have to keep making the choice to either run while holding their pants up and even more so if they are packing, or run out of their pants, leaving their weapon behind.

 

[GrandmaBear]

From your CNN article, @Howell

"The last video, which is the only video that has been confirmed to be Arbery, was taken during the day February 23. It shows him walking around the home which is still under construction." (I added the emphasis)

 

[Howell]

Repeated night time entries? He has never been identified to my knowledge and certainly not identified several times. They can't consider something if they can't say beyond a shadow of a doubt it was him. If they saw him in there before and steal before and could identify him, he would have been charged.

Wow, pretty stupid then to go looking for a gun fight without adequate cause for one.

The jury is going to be shown the CCTV footage and will see clearly that it is Arbery entering the house several times. And no, they don't have to believe it was him "beyond a shadow of a doubt". I'm not sure where you got that standard from. It's like you're just making things up and denying reality at this point.

It's even more stupid to engage in a gun fight when one is unarmed...

 

[Guess Who]

The jury is going to be shown the CCTV footage and will see clearly that it is Arbery entering the house several times. And no, they don't have to believe it was him "beyond a shadow of a doubt". I'm not sure where you got that standard from. It's like you're just making things up and denying reality at this point.

It's even more stupid to engage in a gun fight when one is unarmed...

Speaking of making things up, we are still waiting for your confirmation on the"multiple entries at night" proclamation. The article you posted, basically refutes that allegation.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The jury is going to be shown the CCTV footage and will see clearly that it is Arbery entering the house several times. And no, they don't have to believe it was him "beyond a shadow of a doubt". I'm not sure where you got that standard from. It's like you're just making things up and denying reality at this point.

It's even more stupid to engage in a gun fight when one is unarmed...

i don't think so unless the defense is working on having the videos enhanced but even if correct, it still shoots your own argument down. If they see he had been in there several times, and the homeowner testifies he never vandalized nor stole anything those many times, nor did anyone, they had no reason to assume he would this time as he had not in the "several times" (you state) done any such thing, in fact it makes more sense that they would assume no such thing.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

CCTV footage released by CNN.

Surveillance videos show multiple people had trespassed at the home Ahmaud Arbery visited. He was the only one killed | CNN

Ahmaud Arbery was shot and killed while jogging in Brunswick, Georgia, on February 23, 2020.

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You obviously didn't read the article as well as watch the video. A LOT of people have walked through that house. Why Arbery is the one they chose to kill is beyond me.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

It's very telling that none of you will offer any reasonable explanation as to why he was in the house repeatedly at night. You can keep your head in the sand and believe he was just curious, or seeking water, or dreaming, or whatever. The neighbors who lived there, experienced break-ins, and had seen him before had a pretty good idea what he was up to, and that's why they wanted to talk to him. You just keep falling back on 'But he didn't steal anything!' This is a short-sighted point to make and I've already explained why.

The reason we don't is we can't. It's in your imagination. Here's a couple of quotes from the article:


...Gregory McMichael told police after the shooting that he and his son pursued Arbery because they thought he looked like a suspect in a series of recent break-ins, a police report said. No such string of break-ins was reported to police in more than seven weeks preceding the shooting, Glynn County police Lt. Cheri Bashlor told CNN.
A struggle ensued between Arbery and Travis McMichael, who was armed with a shotgun, according to the report and a video that appears to show the incident. Arbery was shot three times, including twice in the chest, according to a Georgia Bureau of Investigation autopsy report.
No string of break-ins was reported in more than seven weeks before Arbery's death. And new surveillance video taken from a home under construction that Arbery entered on the day of his death is creating more questions, as it's clear he wasn't the only one who entered the property....

(I bolded the lie about the prior burglaries. It seems they made it all up for an excuse.)

... The last video, which is the only video that has been confirmed to be Arbery, was taken during the day February 23. It shows him walking around the home which is still under construction. ....

IMO, you're assuming that the black man seen at night was Arbery, when nobody else can identify the person. Why?

 

[GrandmaBear]

I think the fact they had warrants for these men's homes is interesting as well. The incident did not take place there and they should have had the firearms with them, did LE even take them that night(?). I wonder what they were looking for and had warrants to look for. I also wonder what, if anything, was found.

 

[kdg411]

Ahmaud Arbery case: Preliminary hearings set for 3 men accused in murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Court dates have been set for Travis McMichael, Greg McMichael and William Bryan, according to the Glynn Clerk Court of Magistrate Court.

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[GrandmaBear]

Ahmaud Arbery case: Preliminary hearings set for 3 men accused in murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Court dates have been set for Travis McMichael, Greg McMichael and William Bryan, according to the Glynn Clerk Court of Magistrate Court.

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Am i missing the date? By Wednesday do they mean today or next Wednesday or did I miss reading part of the article? A preliminary most likely will bring out a bit more than we know so I want to not miss it for sure.

 

[kdg411]

Am i missing the date? By Wednesday do they mean today or next Wednesday or did I miss reading part of the article? A preliminary most likely will bring out a bit more than we know so I want to not miss it for sure.

The hearings are set for 9:30 a.m. on June 4, 11Alive's Jacksonville TEGNA sister station First Coast News confirmed.

Preliminary hearings set for father and son charged with murder in Ahmaud Arbery killing

They're set for 9:30 a.m. on June 4.

www.11alive.com

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Am i missing the date? By Wednesday do they mean today or next Wednesday or did I miss reading part of the article? A preliminary most likely will bring out a bit more than we know so I want to not miss it for sure.

That article did not say. But it's next week. June 4 (Thursday, not Wednesday).

Hearing set for 3 Georgia men charged in Ahmaud Arbery killing

Ahmaud Arbery was shot and killed Feb. 23. A hearing has been set for those charged in his killing.

abcnews.go.com

 

[GrandmaBear]

The hearings are set for 9:30 a.m. on June 4, 11Alive's Jacksonville TEGNA sister station First Coast News confirmed.

Preliminary hearings set for father and son charged with murder in Ahmaud Arbery killing

They're set for 9:30 a.m. on June 4.

www.11alive.com

That article did not say. But it's next week. June 4 (Thursday, not Wednesday).

Hearing set for 3 Georgia men charged in Ahmaud Arbery killing

Ahmaud Arbery was shot and killed Feb. 23. A hearing has been set for those charged in his killing.

abcnews.go.com

Thank you both! Any idea if it will be televised? Or how the law is on that in Georgia?

 

[Howell]

The reason we don't is we can't. It's in your imagination. Here's a couple of quotes from the article:


...Gregory McMichael told police after the shooting that he and his son pursued Arbery because they thought he looked like a suspect in a series of recent break-ins, a police report said. No such string of break-ins was reported to police in more than seven weeks preceding the shooting, Glynn County police Lt. Cheri Bashlor told CNN.
A struggle ensued between Arbery and Travis McMichael, who was armed with a shotgun, according to the report and a video that appears to show the incident. Arbery was shot three times, including twice in the chest, according to a Georgia Bureau of Investigation autopsy report.
No string of break-ins was reported in more than seven weeks before Arbery's death. And new surveillance video taken from a home under construction that Arbery entered on the day of his death is creating more questions, as it's clear he wasn't the only one who entered the property....

(I bolded the lie about the prior burglaries. It seems they made it all up for an excuse.)

... The last video, which is the only video that has been confirmed to be Arbery, was taken during the day February 23. It shows him walking around the home which is still under construction. ....

IMO, you're assuming that the black man seen at night was Arbery, when nobody else can identify the person. Why?

There were several 911 calls made between October and February regarding trespassing and break-ins in the neighborhood. McMichael's truck was broken into on January 1st and a firearm stolen, which he reported at the time. He also had a confrontation with a young black male who was trespassing on the property in question and believed he had a firearm, which was also reported at the time it happened. It wasn't made up later as an excuse.

I'm not assuming anything. I've seen the CCTV footage. I linked it earlier, so you should have too. I'm convinced that it's Arbery.

 

[GrandmaBear]

There were several 911 calls made between October and February regarding trespassing and break-ins in the neighborhood. McMichael's truck was broken into on January 1st and a firearm stolen, which he reported at the time. He also had a confrontation with a young black male who was trespassing on the property in question and believed he had a firearm, which was also reported at the time it happened. It wasn't made up later as an excuse.

I'm not assuming anything. I've seen the CCTV footage. I linked it earlier, so you should have too. I'm convinced that it's Arbery.

Then why was he not arrested if they knew who it was and he did something that was wrong?

 

[Cousin Dupree]

There were several 911 calls made between October and February regarding trespassing and break-ins in the neighborhood. McMichael's truck was broken into on January 1st and a firearm stolen, which he reported at the time. He also had a confrontation with a young black male who was trespassing on the property in question and believed he had a firearm, which was also reported at the time it happened. It wasn't made up later as an excuse.

I'm not assuming anything. I've seen the CCTV footage. I linked it earlier, so you should have too. I'm convinced that it's Arbery.

Other than wanting to believe it's Arbery, What else is there? He BELIEVED he had a firearm. He was just guessing. Nobody has said they know for a fact it was Arbery. It was a black guy. That's a really vague description.

As GrandmaBear pointed out why didn't anyone call the police if they KNEW it was Arbery?

These guys and their apologists are telling so many lies about this that just don't make sense. I've seen the footage. The night footage could be anyone. If it is him nothing has been stolen. So go by the evidence we have now. The problem is that you can't go by the evidence we have now, because there's no excuse for their behavior, so you have to make up a series of rumors, just rumors to back up what they did a tiny bit. Even if all of these rumors are true, they should still spend the rest of their lives in prison. JMO

 

[Howell]

Then why was he not arrested if they knew who it was and he did something that was wrong?

They didn't know precisely who it was. They didn't have a name or address. They recognized him from previous occasions. He was trespassing on the same property, once again. They pursued him and tried to stop and talk to him. He attacked them and got shot. That's what happened.

 

[Howell]

Other than wanting to believe it's Arbery, What else is there? He BELIEVED he had a firearm. He was just guessing. Nobody has said they know for a fact it was Arbery. It was a black guy. That's a really vague description.

As GrandmaBear pointed out why didn't anyone call the police if they KNEW it was Arbery?

These guys and their apologists are telling so many lies about this that just don't make sense. I've seen the footage. The night footage could be anyone. If it is him nothing has been stolen. So go by the evidence we have now. The problem is that you can't go by the evidence we have now, because there's no excuse for their behavior, so you have to make up a series of rumors, just rumors to back up what they did a tiny bit. Even if all of these rumors are true, they should still spend the rest of their lives in prison. JMO

Sure, it could be anyone. If you've seen the footage then you know, as well as I, that it's Arbery. It's pretty amusing to watch how far you guys will go to keep this narrative afloat. 'But he didn't steal anything'!!!