Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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Kimster said:
Asking to not use the word murder during a murder case is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
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I agree, right up there with not using abuse in an abuse case.

I think Nate also said they want them not to say he murdered the victims. Well isn't that what the case IS? In other words, like say in opening statements, the P can't say we are going to prove to you (jury) BK murdered these four college students?

I don't think the judge is going to agree on many of these. Maybe on psychopath, etc. he might.

I guess the judge has also come down on both sides for continuing to file so much "under seal" and is unsealing most.
 
A Vandal Alert? It's only for timeline so it likely doesn't relate to anything important, odd though.

She no longer at 4ish in the morning has any texts or phone contact with the other roommate. There are no texts saying are you still there, did you fall asleep, nothing...

What is missing is often meaningful imo but one has to remind self to look for such.

Were they together from that point on?? Did she run downstairs and if so, she'd have known she did not encounter the masked man, and did you see anything going down...

Only after her last text to the other roommate does she start trying to call the others, etc. Again, I'm assuming they must be together...

Did she man I am scared or I am screwed...?

I try hard not to judge the roommates and I'm sure fear played in but what went on all of these hours before 911 was called...

The D is going to drill these roommates so the P needs to find this all out and bring it out in front of the jury before the D gets to question them at trial.
 
GrandmaBear said:
A Vandal Alert? It's only for timeline so it likely doesn't relate to anything important, odd though.
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Vandals are the mascot of the University. They alerted campus/students/registered phones that they were investigating the murder.

www.uidaho.edu

Vandal Alert

Vandal Alert Information
www.uidaho.edu www.uidaho.edu
Vandal Alert is University of Idaho's emergency notification system, and it is used to contact the U of I community in the event of an emergency. It is the quickest way to receive immediate, emergency information such as weather closures or delays and unexpected safety issues.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Vandals are the mascot of the University. They alerted campus/students/registered phones that they were investigating the murder.

www.uidaho.edu

Vandal Alert

Vandal Alert Information
www.uidaho.edu www.uidaho.edu
Vandal Alert is University of Idaho's emergency notification system, and it is used to contact the U of I community in the event of an emergency. It is the quickest way to receive immediate, emergency information such as weather closures or delays and unexpected safety issues.
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Okay. Thank you. That makes sense.

I didn't take it to relate to the murders in any way as it said it was only for the timeline but it was an odd thing to see considering it was in info relating to a murder trial. Vandal, of all things.
 
OK, so I’m confused about the next morning. Did they not contact anybody until around 10 or 11 AM? Do you think they were sobering up because they really weren’t sure what was going on?
 
Kimster said:
OK, so I’m confused about the next morning. Did they not contact anybody until around 10 or 11 AM? Do you think they were sobering up because they really weren’t sure what was going on?
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They were up late and drinking. I'd have been more shocked if they were up and active around 8 am. College kids sleeping until that hour is pretty normal.
Plus an adrenaline spike (from being scared, fight-or-flight, etc.) can make your body crash hard too.
 
Kimster said:
OK, so I’m confused about the next morning. Did they not contact anybody until around 10 or 11 AM? Do you think they were sobering up because they really weren’t sure what was going on?
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This is something legitimately wondered since the beginning of this case. These texts and calls now show a few things and I take them to be complete, for Court purposes?

Communications clearly end between D and B in the early morning hours at least by phone calls and texts, there aren't any after that. This means to me they got together most likely. IF they crashed separately meaning both in fear fell asleep and weren't up any longer (that's two people doing that, not as likely) then one would think there would be texts later in the morning of are u up yet, I'm still scared, come upstairs, come downstairs, let's meet in the kitchen, etc., is it safe? there's nothing. For D to run down to B's room would seem a pretty big risk too when she had seen this guy but maybe she did, and maybe they both crashed together which would explain no further texts or calls. Then when there finally is a call to 911 it is about one unconscious person.

This is definitely going to come up at trial, those missing hours and why it took so long. Certainly most put it down to drinking, drug use, getting things out of the house, fear of being charged for those things, etc. but it is going to come up, the D isn't going to leave it alone and the roommates and P will have to explain it. Imo anyhow.

I'm not convinced BOTH crashed although it's definitely possible. If you're in fear someone is in your house that is bad, I'm sorry, I don't think you fall back asleep, but it's possible maybe if she got to B's room and they felt safe at some point. Or something on that order. I'm basing it on life, that you wouldn't fall back asleep, have you ever felt someone was in the room or house with you in the middle of the night and for good reason? No, you don't fall back to sleep in my experience. HOWEVER, it is possible and all had been out and drinking so I'm not saying it isn't possible either.

It is though an area and question that is going to come up at trial imo. It won't absolve him but it is something most don't understand, here we are asking it here, so jury is going to need it explained I think, and before the D tries to do something with it.

Jmo.
 
Also, I thought they called some male friend/s or something and maybe they came out only when someone else arrived but they didn't call 911 first. I don't see texts with the friend although maybe they were on the other's phone or something on that order... D's dad was also called it appears...
 
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