Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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Hardly keeping up lately but it's pretty clear why the D atty fought to get rid of the Amazon records, etc. and all too. Now not only the knife but the mask allegedly too.

I have to say I'm pretty impressed with this prosecution, they are coming back hard and it seems they have the evidence... I guess I mean I think they made sure they had their ducks in a row and it's showing, so far anyhow, and they know how to do their job.

She was supposed to be such a good and hot shot lawyer (Taylor) and I've not really been impressed but I guess when the facts aren't on your side... And I don't think they are in this one, I think they have a lot on him.

I've kept up barely but just not with posting. I watched a very good show the other night about the DNA. Of course the D is fighting to minimize it or to treat it as if it's just trace DNA...

A lot going on in a lot of cases.
 
I haven't kept up with this either don't worry
Awhile back, like three cases I followed, and I'd say most of us, came to trial at the same time, you know, after no trials go on at all for monthAnd ts, years... I'm beginning to think it's intentional lol or it is the 3 months of the yr attys and the legal system really do their jobs lol. I think it was Stauch, West and Daybell if I recall. West was hardly covered and yet it was a case that erupted online. I think Stauch and Daybell both had lives or delayed lives in one or some such and all had to pick which to cover, etc...

Then you know, new news comes out and if one means to go back and cover it, it just never happens.

Like you, but for different injuries, have hardly been able to even watch things for the last few weeks or that is as much as I can do and it's all busy all of a sudden, much less than post.

There's a lot going on in this case too lately.

Hope you are over flu and doing well generally better, I know it's a long road you have. Trying myself to catch up a bit here. Should be doing freaking paperwork, etc. All that is fun too isn't it, that comes along with... NOT.
 

Bryan Kohberger bought black mask before Idaho murders: Documents​

The latest court document dump in the Idaho college killings case suggests defendant Bryan Kohberger bought a black face covering 11 months before he allegedly murdered four students as they slept.

Prosecutors say records show Kohberger purchased a black balaclava Jan. 10, 2022, at a Dick’s Sporting Goods while he was in Pittsburgh. The deaths of Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin happened Nov. 13 in Moscow, Idaho.

State prosecutors have previously disclosed they have online shopping records indicating Kohberger bought the murder weapon — a combat-style knife — as well as a sheath and sharpener eight months before the killings. A sheath with DNA linked to Kohberger was found at the crime scene.

Introducing information about the face covering could bolster the account of a surviving roommate who told police she saw a bushy-eyed stranger in the house who was wearing a black mask.


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Prosecutors may call on Kohberger’s family to testify​

In the latest drop of court filings in Bryan Kohberger’s criminal case, the prosecution hinted that it might call members of the 30-year-old’s family to testify at his upcoming trial.

Latah County Senior Deputy Prosecutor Ashley Jennings asked in the March 21 filing, which was published on the court’s website Monday, that if any members of Kohberger’s family are listed as witnesses for the prosecution that they be excluded from the courtroom until they testify. The prosecution has until April 21 to file its witness list.


This latest filing by the prosecution is in response to a filing by the defense, which asked last week that if any of Kohberger’s immediate family — consisting of his mother, father and two sisters — attend the trial they are allowed in the courtroom.

“Mr. Kohberger’s Sixth Amendment right to a public trial would be violated if his family is excluded,” according to the March 17 filing signed by defense attorney Elisa Massoth.

Jennings disagreed and wrote in the response that while Kohberger has a right to a public trial it “does not extend to defendant’s choosing whom sits in the courtroom.”

“Defendant requests that members of his family be granted the same rights as the victim’s families,” Jennings wrote. “However, the ‘immediate families of homicide victims’ have constitutional and statutory rights to attend. ... There is no comparable constitutional or statutory provisions affording a defendant’s family these same rights.”

The back and forth over courtroom attendees started in February when the prosecution filed a motion asking 4th District Judge Steven Hippler for “guidance” regarding who the court recognizes as the victims’ immediate family members and to allow those members — regardless of when or whether they are scheduled to testify — to remain in the courtroom for the entirety of the planned months-long trial.

Typically, witnesses expected to be called to the stand cannot be present during others’ testimony until they have testified themselves — unless they are the victim’s immediate family members. In their motion, the prosecution asked that all members of the Goncalves, Mogen, Kernodle and Chapin families listed in their filing be permitted for the entire trial.

The names of the students’ family members are redacted but their relationship to the victims is listed. While parents and siblings are considered immediate family members under state law, courts have been less clear on grandparents, stepparents or stepsiblings.

The prosecution is asking that Goncalves’ grandparents and Mogen’s stepmother, stepfather and stepsister be allowed in the courtroom. This was a concern raised during another high-profile murder trial in Idaho.

During Lori Vallow Daybell’s criminal trial, 7th District Judge Steven Boyce ruled that the grandparents of Vallow Daybell’s son, Joshua “JJ” Vallow — who Vallow Daybell was later convicted of killing — didn’t meet the legal definition of immediate family members, East Idaho News reported. But Boyce did allow JJ’s grandmother to stay in the courtroom as a representative for her grandson.

Kohberger’s attorneys said last week they didn’t object to the court allowing immediate members of the victims’ families, including grandparents or stepparents, to be present in the courtroom.

But they also asked that relatives be prohibited from wearing T-shirts with the victims’ pictures or messages that promote the state’s new firing squad execution law, which members of the Goncalves family have previously worn at hearings.

“This must not be allowed in any future courtroom proceedings,” the filing read. “Case law from other states have noted that ‘it would seem that the wearing of such buttons or T-shirts is not a good idea because of the possibility of prejudice which might result.’”
 

Kohberger crime scene paper may be used as evidence in Idaho student murders trial​

New court filings show that prosecutors want to use a college paper written by Bryan Kohberger on crime scenes as evidence in his murder trial.

Kohberger is accused of killing Ethan Chapin from Mount Vernon, his girlfriend Xana Kernodle, Madison Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves in a house near the University of Idaho in 2022.

At the time, he was a criminal justice graduate student at Washington State University, which is about a 20-minute drive away.

According to the court filings, Kohberger wrote a 12-page paper called “Crime-scene Scenario Final,” which discusses a woman who was stabbed to death in a trailer park. The documents don’t specify whether it was a real case.

In documents filed last week, prosecutors said they plan to use evidence of an apparent knife purchase that they believe link Kohberger to the murders. According to investigators, a Ka-Bar sheath was found next to one of the victims that allegedly had a “statistical match” to his DNA.

According to the court filings, the paper goes on to explain how a crime scene is secured and how evidence is collected to avoid contaminating it.

Another set of newly filed court documents shows that Kohberger’s team has tried to argue that he “has a developmental coordination disorder,” which means it was “not possible for him” to commit these crimes because he lacked the necessary “speed and coordination.” However, the documents state that is not what his neuropsychological evaluation found.


Strava data shows Bryan Kohberger ran six-minute mile​

In the weeks leading up to Bryan Kohberger’s trial, his attorneys are arguing that he has a “developmental coordination disorder” that makes it physically impossible for him to have killed four University of Idaho students in 2022. But prosecutors say data from a fitness app shows Kohberger once ran a mile in only six minutes.
 

Bryan Kohberger trial: Idaho weather from night of student murders clouds 'moon and stars' alibi​

It was a dark and cloudy night.

Bryan Kohberger, 30, was a Ph.D. student at Washington State University in Pullman, Washington, Nov. 13, 2022, when prosecutors allege he took a short drive to the neighboring University of Idaho in Moscow, Idaho, and killed four students in a 4 a.m. home invasion stabbing.

His defense says he was just out for a drive and didn't go to the students' apartment.

National Weather Service records Idaho prosecutors plan to introduce during his upcoming trial show fog, reduced visibility and low clouds at the time, according to Andrew Wulfeck, a FOX Weather meteorologist and digital producer.

It was not immediately clear why prosecutors wanted to introduce weather records in court filings, but it could be to dispute Kohberger's purported alibi, that he "was out driving in the early morning hours of November 13, 2022; as he often did to hike and run and/or see the moon and stars."

Prosecutors, who separately asked the court to throw that alibi out, have asked to introduce NWS records from Nov. 12 and 13, 2022, which show clouds, fog and below-average temperatures for the area.

Wulfeck said the fog didn't appear dense enough to affect travel at the time but would have made "an unpleasant-looking evening."

"In addition to the fog, the cloud deck appeared to be fairly low, which again likely contributed to it not being the greatest night for types of activities such as stargazing, if you weren’t able to find a break in the clouds," he added.


"[This is] another piece of information that does not appear to be shaping up in Kohberger’s favor," said Boise defense attorney Edwina Elcox, who has been following the case. Last week, she said the revelation in court documents that Kohberger allegedly purchased a Ka-Bar knife and sheath set on Amazon was "catastrophic" to his defense.
 
I think it is supposed to be mitigating (or hoped to be) and to get the DP off of the table (try to). I am guessing where many will make a deal for life in prison to get the DP dropped, defense wants to get the DP dropped and then deal from there and hope for less than life, or life with the possibility of parole or some such. Just to get in a better position to start from...
Yeah my comment to myself when i read Rpeg post, was "so what". How does having those disorders make him a murderer?

A lot of people have autism and OCD - I don't think it makes them any more likely to murder than people without these disorders.

I have never heard of NCD. Has anyone come across that one before?
 
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Hardly keeping up lately but it's pretty clear why the D atty fought to get rid of the Amazon records, etc. and all too. Now not only the knife but the mask allegedly too.

I have to say I'm pretty impressed with this prosecution, they are coming back hard and it seems they have the evidence... I guess I mean I think they made sure they had their ducks in a row and it's showing, so far anyhow, and they know how to do their job.

She was supposed to be such a good and hot shot lawyer (Taylor) and I've not really been impressed but I guess when the facts aren't on your side... And I don't think they are in this one, I think they have a lot on him.

I've kept up barely but just not with posting. I watched a very good show the other night about the DNA. Of course the D is fighting to minimize it or to treat it as if it's just trace DNA...

A lot going on in a lot of cases.

You can't polish a turd.

there are things i have passed by online that defend the guy... if he bought a mask and knife like that...... ummmmm whyyyyyyy????? may i ask?

Well, I don't get all the fuss about him buying a baklava.

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Bryan Kohberger bought black mask before Idaho murders: Documents​

The latest court document dump in the Idaho college killings case suggests defendant Bryan Kohberger bought a black face covering 11 months before he allegedly murdered four students as they slept.

Prosecutors say records show Kohberger purchased a black balaclava Jan. 10, 2022, at a Dick’s Sporting Goods while he was in Pittsburgh. The deaths of Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin happened Nov. 13 in Moscow, Idaho.

State prosecutors have previously disclosed they have online shopping records indicating Kohberger bought the murder weapon — a combat-style knife — as well as a sheath and sharpener eight months before the killings. A sheath with DNA linked to Kohberger was found at the crime scene.

Introducing information about the face covering could bolster the account of a surviving roommate who told police she saw a bushy-eyed stranger in the house who was wearing a black mask.


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So potentially, he was planning this WAY before the slaying. Unreal.
 

Prosecutors may call on Kohberger’s family to testify​

In the latest drop of court filings in Bryan Kohberger’s criminal case, the prosecution hinted that it might call members of the 30-year-old’s family to testify at his upcoming trial.

Latah County Senior Deputy Prosecutor Ashley Jennings asked in the March 21 filing, which was published on the court’s website Monday, that if any members of Kohberger’s family are listed as witnesses for the prosecution that they be excluded from the courtroom until they testify. The prosecution has until April 21 to file its witness list.


This latest filing by the prosecution is in response to a filing by the defense, which asked last week that if any of Kohberger’s immediate family — consisting of his mother, father and two sisters — attend the trial they are allowed in the courtroom.

“Mr. Kohberger’s Sixth Amendment right to a public trial would be violated if his family is excluded,” according to the March 17 filing signed by defense attorney Elisa Massoth.

Jennings disagreed and wrote in the response that while Kohberger has a right to a public trial it “does not extend to defendant’s choosing whom sits in the courtroom.”

“Defendant requests that members of his family be granted the same rights as the victim’s families,” Jennings wrote. “However, the ‘immediate families of homicide victims’ have constitutional and statutory rights to attend. ... There is no comparable constitutional or statutory provisions affording a defendant’s family these same rights.”

The back and forth over courtroom attendees started in February when the prosecution filed a motion asking 4th District Judge Steven Hippler for “guidance” regarding who the court recognizes as the victims’ immediate family members and to allow those members — regardless of when or whether they are scheduled to testify — to remain in the courtroom for the entirety of the planned months-long trial.

Typically, witnesses expected to be called to the stand cannot be present during others’ testimony until they have testified themselves — unless they are the victim’s immediate family members. In their motion, the prosecution asked that all members of the Goncalves, Mogen, Kernodle and Chapin families listed in their filing be permitted for the entire trial.

The names of the students’ family members are redacted but their relationship to the victims is listed. While parents and siblings are considered immediate family members under state law, courts have been less clear on grandparents, stepparents or stepsiblings.

The prosecution is asking that Goncalves’ grandparents and Mogen’s stepmother, stepfather and stepsister be allowed in the courtroom. This was a concern raised during another high-profile murder trial in Idaho.

During Lori Vallow Daybell’s criminal trial, 7th District Judge Steven Boyce ruled that the grandparents of Vallow Daybell’s son, Joshua “JJ” Vallow — who Vallow Daybell was later convicted of killing — didn’t meet the legal definition of immediate family members, East Idaho News reported. But Boyce did allow JJ’s grandmother to stay in the courtroom as a representative for her grandson.

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But they also asked that relatives be prohibited from wearing T-shirts with the victims’ pictures or messages that promote the state’s new firing squad execution law, which members of the Goncalves family have previously worn at hearings.

“This must not be allowed in any future courtroom proceedings,” the filing read. “Case law from other states have noted that ‘it would seem that the wearing of such buttons or T-shirts is not a good idea because of the possibility of prejudice which might result.’”
This is true. We could have turned ours into a big deal but were told not to. Community offered the vigils, buttons were made, etc. and we were told to wear no such things at trial and so on. On top of all you are dealing with you get told this stuff and your instinct is to do as some parents in some cases have, speak out, go against because you can't hold it in...

you are expected to do the unnatural and at the time you want to scream to the world... It is why I understand like Dylan Rounds' mom. You are to listen to the other side and say nothing while the P keeps all to the vest.

We hear about defendant's rights so much these days and i don't want anyone wrongfully convicted but there's a whole lot of lack with the rights of the victim families OR any focus on them.

I get how Kaylee's dad has felt too. i will go, oh don't do that, because you are to trust the P team, etc. and LE but it's very, very hard to do that too. It's a D sh*tshow.

Like in Daybell, how many are even thinking of Charles right now? Or Tylee who was alive then? All of us, self included, are thinking about the Lori show coming. It is digusting.

This is a jump off comment. A lot of hot cases right now that many of us follow.
 
A developmental coordination disorder?? WHAT next, seriously?! I've not been coordinated a lot of my life but never killed anyone..

There are FOUR, FOUR, FOUR young students slaughtered here

Good Lord, how stupid it is getting.

He is not convicted yet but MOST cases are charged when they have ample evidence. We see many not charged as they feel they don't have enough.

Another sob story for the defendant who allegedly killed FOUR students.

Ann Taylor should consider herself good if she gets the DP knocked off. I don't even want to see that. And then stop and consider that a win.
 
there are things i have passed by online that defend the guy... if he bought a mask and knife like that...... ummmmm whyyyyyyy????? may i ask?
If they are the same ones i ran across, it is the typical ones that were doing the same in Delphi, etc. And sadly "news" stations some would consider such. Jmo.
 

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