Tuesday 16th morning.
They mention that Chad does not have shackles but has a leg monitor. He can seem to come and go as he wants in and out of the court and has his laptop. Remember Lori was shackled to the floor most of the time. Strange, and wrong, that they are treating Chad so differently.
Anyway, this morning's updates so far.
Excuse the typos – these are live updates from the courtroom
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10:43 a.m. Blake shows a slide on the screen that says “Charles Vallow’s Cell Phone Extraction Data.” Duncan reads an email purportedly from Charles to Chad inviting him to visit Arizona to help him write a book.
10:40 a.m. We are back in the courtroom. Attorneys are at their tables and Boyce is on the bench. Jurors are being brought in.
10:09 a.m. Boyce calls for a morning recess. We will be back in 30 minutes with the PowerPoint.
10:07 a.m. Blake moves to admit a PowerPoint exhibit prepared by Duncan.
10:05 a.m. Duncan determined Charles’ phone was the catalyst of an argument that happened between him and Lori the day of the shooting. Shortly after the shooting, Lori left the house with Charles’ phone. She returned the phone to police and they did an extraction on the device.
10:03 a.m. Blake asks if any additional blood was located in the home. Duncan says there was. Alex told them he washed his hands in the sink so there was some blood on the faucet. Duncan says the shooting was investigated as a homicide. He was assigned as the lead agent in June 2020.
10 a.m. Alex told police he was standing in the southwest corner of the living room and he and Charles were face to face with each other. Alex said he shot Charles twice standing up. As police were cleaning up the scene, Duncan noticed an indention in the floor that would have been consistent with Charles being shot while lying on the ground.
9:58 a.m. Duncan and the crime scene techs did not touch the body. The medical examiner arrived and the AED pad was removed. Another wound was noticed in the center of Charles’ chest. There were two additional wounds on his back consistent with bullet holes. Blake asks if the wounds in the back and front appeared to be linked. Duncan says they try not to immediately determine that but Alex mentioned Charles had been shot twice so they assumed they were entry and exit wounds.
9:54 a.m. Charles was lying the wooden floor next to a baseball bat. By this point, Charles had been pronounced dead. Duncan said there were reports Alex had done CPR. The fire department had placed pads on his chest to determine whether life-saving measures were needed. Duncan says he noticed a bullet wound in the lower left quadrant of his torso. His t-shirt was cut open and AED pads were put on for medical intervention. Duncan did not notice a lot of blood on the floor surrounding the body which is not consistent with someone who have been given CPR.
9:52 a.m. Duncan was assisted by crime scene technicians. Patrol officers gave him a briefing and a technician then entered the crime scene to take photos. “The crime scene in this case was very simple relative to other crime scenes,” Duncan says. They entered through the front door and there was a small foyer that opened up into a large living room. There was a wood plank floor, no furniture, mirrors on the walls and an open window. “It was very sparse,” he says.
9:51 a.m. Alex Cox made the 911 call. He said he shot his brother-in-law Charles Vallow in self-defense. Before this day, Duncan had never heard of Alex or Charles. Duncan was assigned to document the crime scene.
9:49 a.m. Blake asks Duncan if he was working on July 11, 2019. She asks if he responded to a report of a shooting. He did. The call came in around 8:36 a.m. He arrived 20-30 minutes after the original call.
9:47 a.m. Chandler Police Det. Nathan Duncan is the next witness on the stand.
9:44 a.m. Blake asks Heideman if she was aware that Melanie Gibb or David Warwick profited from JJ’s death. She says no. Blake has no further questions. She is done testifying at this point but will be recalled by the state later in the trial.
9:43 a.m. Blake asks about the statement that people having affair change their phone numbers. She asks Heideman if people involved in criminal activity also change phone numbers. Heideman says yes.
9:42 a.m. Blake asks Heideman if she’s aware who designated Charles as Ned. Heideman says Lori calls Charles Ned but she doesn’t know where the name comes from. The searches for Ned were done around the same time Lori was calling Charles Ned. Blake asks Heideman found any searches in Chad’s email regarding divorce or separation. “Not that I recall,” she responds.
9:40 a.m. Blake asks Heideman if she is aware Audrey is married. Heideman says at the time, she was not married. Blake asks about the attempted shooting of Brandon Boudreaux and the death of Charles Vallow. She asks Heideman if she is still involved in active investigations regarding those incidents. Heideman says she is not.
9:38 a.m. Prior asks Heideman if she’s aware Lori Vallow was in Hawaii with Audrey Barattiero and Melanie Boudreaux on Oct. 22, 2019. Prior asks Heideman if she’s aware the ladies were looking for wedding dresses on that day. Heideman is unaware of that. Prior has no further questions. Blake will now re-direct.
9:37 a.m. Prior asks about the search on removing the back seat of a Jeep. That was on Lori’s account. Prior asks if there were any searches done by Chad about moving a seat. Heideman says no. Prior clarifies that Chad has not been charged in Arizona. Heideman says that’s correct.
9:36 a.m. Prior says Chad and Lori have strong religious beliefs – but so do Melanie Gibb, David Warwick, Alex Cox and Zulema Pastenes.
9:34 a.m. Prior says he didn’t see anything where Chad Daybell searched for life insurance on the kids. Heideman says he didn’t. Prior asks if there were any emails that said, “Let’s kill two kids.” Heideman says there were not. Prior says Lori searched for life insurance information. Prior asks about Elaina and Hiplos and if there are religious meanings. Heideman says not necessarily – it got confusing because Chad and Lori called each other different names.
9:30 a.m. Prior directs Heideman to look at the lollytime4ever slide. He asks Heideman about Lori’s children watching their father be killed. Prior says we don’t know what JJ or Tylee saw – the evidence goes both ways. Prior says one of Tylee’s close friends was interviewed and provided information on what Tylee says.
9:27 a.m. Prior says the day after Chad searched for the wind details, he emailed his wife saying he was going to burn some limbs in the backyard. Prior now asking about track phones and how if you were having an affair, wouldn’t it be logical to buy different phones to hide it from his wife. Heideman says it’s possible.
9:26 a.m. Prior asking about the search that says “when you surprise someone with accusations.” He asks Heideman if she knows who typed that information. She says someone with access to Chad’s email account. Prior asks the same question about the wind search. Again – Heideman says it was someone with access to his account.
9:24 a.m. Prior asking about Ned Snider/Schneider. Heideman says Chad regularly did searches for different people but the Ned Snider/Schneider was directly connected to this case. Prior says Chad’s history shows there are a lot of inquiries into a lot of names and topics – thousands of searches.
9:21 a.m. Prior asks if it’s possible Lori could have been dropping hints about one day getting married and having a malachite ring. Heideman says ultimately they purchased malachite wedding bands. Prior asks Heideman if she’s aware there were discussions between Alex and Zulema about malachite rings. She isn’t sure about that.
9:19 a.m. Heideman is not sure where the searches were done from – a phone or computer. Prior asks about the search on March 6, 2019 about Leo and Cancer being compatible.
9:17 a.m. Prior shows the slide of the
chad.daybell@gmail.com searches. Prior asks Heideman if we know for sure Chad did the searches. She says no – she doesn’t know for sure that it was Chad typing in the searches but someone with access to his account. Prior asks Heideman if she’s aware 3-4 other people were living in Chad’s house at the time.
9:15 a.m. Prior asks Heideman about Chad and Lori being in a romantic relationship. He says the relationship was happening while Charles and Tammy were both alive. Heideman says that’s correct. Prior asks if some of the Google searches could be explained by the fact that Chad was trying to hide his affair with Lori. Heideman says she’s unsure she understands.
9:13 a.m. Prior says Lori Vallow, Alex Cox, Melanie Gibb and David Warwick were all around JJ Vallow on the day he died. Prior says he doesn’t see any Google searches on Gibb or Warwick. “Why don’t I have any Google search information on Melanie Gibb or David Warwick?” Heideman says she doesn’t write the search warrants.
9:12 a.m. Heideman says she is not communicating with the agent in any significant way. Prior asks Heideman if she believes JJ Vallow was murdered the afternoon of Sept. 22 up until late morning of Sept. 23. Heideman says yes. Prior asks Heideman if she’s aware JJ was murdered either in an apartment of Lori Vallow or close proximity. Heideman says she isn’t sure if we know exactly where he was killed.
9:08 a.m. Prior says he notices there is an FBI agent in the court who has been here a number of times. He asks Heideman if that is her supervisor. She says he is not her direct supervisor. Heideman says she has not discussed her testimony in detail with him. Prior asks Heideman if she has spoken with the FBI agent if she has spoken with him over the last week about the testimony in the case. She says possibly.
9:07 a.m. Prior asks Heideman is she’s aware Chad is not implicated in Charles Vallow’s death or the attempted murder of Brandon Boudreaux. Heideman says that’s correct.
9:05 a.m. Blake has no further questions for Heideman. Prior will now cross-examine.
9:01 a.m. There was a search on Sept. 30, 2019 – “how to get the back seat out of my Jeep Wrangler; Jeep Wrangler JK Rear Seat Removal How to DIY – YouTube.” On Oct. 2, 2019, there was a search for “gilbert az news” and on Oct. 22, 2019 – three days after Tammy Daybell died – there was a search for “wedding dresses, wedding dresses in Kauai.” and
9 a.m. There were a lot of searches for information on service dogs and selling service dogs on July 26, 2019. On Aug. 25, 2019, there was a search for “wedding bands made of malachite.” There were searches for Kennedy Elementary (the school JJ attended in Rexburg) on Sept. 20 and 24, 2019.
8:57 a.m. The next slide shows searches from
lollytime4ever@gmail.com between March 7, 2019 – Dec. 14, 2019. The first search, on May 7, 2019, was for “malachite.” There was a search on July 21, 2019 for “life insurance for children – the grow-up plan.” Heideman says, to the best of her knowledge, there was no life insurance on the children.
8:55 a.m. The Chad email account also searched for “hiplos” on June 21, 2019. On July 9, 2019 – the day Charles was shot and killed – there was a search for “when you surprise someone with accusations.” There was a search on Sept. 8, 2019 for “ssw wind, what is the definition of ssw direction.” It’s believed Tylee Ryan was killed Sept. 9. The last search, on Oct. 8, 2019, was for “Rhode Island area code.” Heideman says one of the phone numbers belonging to Chad had a Rhode Island area code.
8:54 a.m. On May 5, 2019, there was a search for “malachite, eBay malachite jewelry.” Chad and Lori purchased malachite wedding rings. Learn more about that
here.
8:52 a.m. The Chad gmail account searched “Ned Schneider Louisiana obituary 1997” on Jan. 31, 2019. The next search, on March 6, 2019, was about cancer and leo being compatible. Heideman says Lori’s birthday is a cancer and Chad’s birthday makes him a leo.
8:49 a.m. Heideman sayss he reviewed multiple documents, reports and phone data. She learned of the name Ned Snider/Schneider from Chandler and Gilbert Police. Charles Vallow made comments that Lori referred to him as Ned Snider/Schneider. The name also appeared in Lori’s iCloud account in connection to Charles.
8:46 a.m. The first slide shows a summer of search activity from
chad.daybell@gmail.com beginning Oct. 1, 2018. On Jan. 28, 2019, the email user searched for Ned Snider 1996 death and other searches revolving around Ned Snider. There was also a search for “bodies possessed after original occupant dies.”
8:43 a.m. Heideman looked at web searches done by Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell. Blake asks to admit a PowerPoint exhibit on a thumb drive.
8:42 a.m. Heideman says the case of the missing children quickly expanded into the deaths of Tammy Daybell and Charles Vallow, as well as the attempted shooting of Brandon Boudreaux.
8:40 a.m. Jurors take their seats. Boyce reminds everyone in the courtroom to follow the conduct order. He says a few members of the public did not comply yesterday and were not able to come back in the afternoon.
8:36 a.m. Boyce is on the bench. State and defense are ready. Heideman takes the stand. Fremont County Prosecuting Attorney Lindsey Blake will continue questioning Heideman.
8:31 a.m. Chad Daybell just walked in. He’s wearing khaki pants, a dress shirt and tie. He does not have on handcuffs or leg shackles but appears to be wearing an ankle monitor on his right leg.
8:26 a.m. We are back in the courtroom. People in the gallery are seated. Prosecutors are at their table, John Prior is at his table but Chad Daybell is not in the courtroom yet. FBI Tactical Specialist Nicole Heideman will be back on the stand this morning.
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