Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *MISTRIAL*

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This woman didn't do this. I'd be willing to bet that someone in the house did it. Someone in the house looked up "How long will it take for somebody to die in the cold." Karen couldn't have done that search.

Is there a cover up conspiracy?

 
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Guess Who said:
CW request for texts DENIED!

www.wcvb.com

Karen Read's defense strategy, attorney messages debated in hearing

A pretrial hearing centered on the defense's plans to use a third-party culprit defense and the prosecution's request for access to communications between Read and her attorney.
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I'm not surprised. It would be privileged, i guess.

I mean if she said to her attorney she thought she could have hit him but can't fully remember, for example, it's not a confession, as such. I think she probably has a vague recollection of what happened, and may even remember bumping over something. It was probably not until he failed to return home that it dawned on her and led to the panic.
 
Tresir said:
There were two who collected his clothes from the hospital IIRC. They were bagged and turned into the evidence room way before the car was seized.
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And guess who turned it in. Now do the rest of the evidence. Plus Proctor is the one that even self catagorized himself as the person in charge of all evidence documentation on this case. He has to testify. Full stop.
 
Tresir said:
I'm not surprised. It would be privileged, i guess.

I mean if she said to her attorney she thought she could have hit him but can't fully remember, for example, it's not a confession, as such. I think she probably has a vague recollection of what happened, and may even remember bumping over something. It was probably not until he failed to return home that it dawned on her and led to the panic.
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It was a very stupid thing for the CW to even request to begin with. I think they thought this judge would allow it.
 
Tresir said:
That is not true. This is from the link i just posted.

Bukhenik said he called Proctor and “advised him to contact Canton police.”

He said he told Proctor he would begin “shoveling out” and that they met at the Canton police station around 9:15 a.m.

Bukhenik said he drove in his personal truck because it had four-wheel drive, which was better for the inclement weather. Proctor was in the parking lot when Bukhenik arrived at the station and they walked in together, he said.


He said they went to the detectives’ unit and spoke to Sean Goode, a Canton police sergeant, for about 25 to 30 minutes. Bukhenik said he learned the victim was “Mr. John O’Keefe” and that he had been taken to a Brockton hospital, as had Read.

Witnesses have said Read was taken to the hospital after making “suicidal statements” at the crime scene.


Bukhenik said he and Proctor proceeded to the Canton home of Matt and Jennifer McCabe. McCabe’s sister and her brother-in-law Brian Albert lived at the Fairview Road home where O’Keefe’s body was found near the curb. Bukhenik said they first spoke with Jennifer McCabe, then her husband Matt, then Albert, who had come to the home. Each interview was conducted separately, Bukhenik said.


From there, the investigators went to the emergency department at Good Samaritan Medical Center in Brockton, where they saw “Mr. O’Keefe’s body” on a gurney, with his clothing “a couple of feet away at the foot of the bed.”

He said that after viewing O’Keefe’s body, the troopers identified the clothes and placed them into evidence bags.


Bukhenik said troopers notate who located an item of evidentiary value, as well as the time and place of recovery.

O’Keefe’s clothing was on the floor at the hospital and “soaking wet,” he said.

The clothing included jeans, plaid boxers, a black Nike sneaker, an orange T-shirt, and a gray long-sleeved shirt, he said.


”I also recognized, due to the aroma and visual observations, traces of vomit on the clothing,” Bukhenik said. “Once we went through the clothing we collected each item and put it into a large evidence bag.”

He said the items were double-bagged and he asked that paramedics check the ambulance for O’Keefe’s other sneaker. Witnesses have testified that O’Keefe’s other shoe was found upside down and buried under snow, flush against the curb on Fairview Road.
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Bringing forward the double bagging of the clothes and subsequent processing.
 
Guess Who said:
And guess who turned it in. Now do the rest of the evidence. Plus Proctor is the one that even self catagorized himself as the person in charge of all evidence documentation on this case. He has to testify. Full stop.
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I have posted this twice now and there were at least two officers doing the clothes evidence so that is not correct. The other evidence was the car and the videos show the processing of that. The processing of the crime scene and finding of the taillight pieces and the other sneaker is documented and the photos are upthread. There were at least three officers on scene in those photos. So it won't matter whether Proctor testifies or not IMO.
 
Tresir said:
Well they got the Turtle Boy stuff, which is probably better.
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It doesn't leave me with a content feeling that they thought they even had a chance to get her texts between her and her attorney. This only proves to me that they thought they could get it by with this judge because they should haven't even thought about filing it to start with because it should have been nixed at the beginning for any judge. The CW should know this.
 
Details that prove the taillight was damaged before it was taken into police custody.

whdh.com

Jurors hear from forensic scientists, state police investigator as Karen Read murder trial continues - Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News

DEDHAM, MASS. (WHDH) - Jurors heard from a state police homicide detective and a pair of forensic scientists from the state police crime lab as<a class="excerpt-read-more"...
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As testimony continued, Bukhenik said he traveled to Dighton to visit Read’s father’s home. He said he saw damage to Read’s SUV’s tail light and interviewed Read. Though she agreed to be interviewed, Bukhenik said, Read did not want to get into too much detail in her conversation with investigators.
Bukhenik said Read told him she had a fight with O’Keefe on the morning of Jan. 28 over what O’Keefe’s niece and nephew, who he was caring for, had for breakfast.
That night, Bukhenik said, Read told him she dropped O’Keefe off at the party at the Alberts’ house. When asked if she saw O’Keefe go into the home, Bukhenik said, Read told him she did not. Bukhenik said Read told investigators she made a three point turn and left the scene.
When Bukhenik asked Read about the damage to her SUV’s tail light, he said she responded — “I don’t know. It happened last night.”
Security video from Read’s father’s home showed the back of her car as police seized it and put it on a flatbed. Bukhenik said the rear tail light was illuminated, with a white light visible at the edge.
Another video showed the tow truck arriving at Canton police headquarters with Read’s car on its flatbed.
 
Guess Who said:
It doesn't leave me with a content feeling that they thought they even had a chance to get her texts between her and her attorney. This only proves to me that they thought they could get it by with this judge because they should haven't even thought about filing it to start with because it should have been nixed at the beginning for any judge. The CW should know this.
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I don't think it will matter. The evidence clearly shows her taillight was damaged the evening she hit Okeefe and not anywhere else. She admits it herself " It happened last night". The tests show she was drunk and they have her on camera drinking thru the evening.
 
Tresir said:
Details that prove the taillight was damaged before it was taken into police custody.

whdh.com

Jurors hear from forensic scientists, state police investigator as Karen Read murder trial continues - Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News

DEDHAM, MASS. (WHDH) - Jurors heard from a state police homicide detective and a pair of forensic scientists from the state police crime lab as<a class="excerpt-read-more"...
whdh.com whdh.com

As testimony continued, Bukhenik said he traveled to Dighton to visit Read’s father’s home. He said he saw damage to Read’s SUV’s tail light and interviewed Read. Though she agreed to be interviewed, Bukhenik said, Read did not want to get into too much detail in her conversation with investigators.
Bukhenik said Read told him she had a fight with O’Keefe on the morning of Jan. 28 over what O’Keefe’s niece and nephew, who he was caring for, had for breakfast.
That night, Bukhenik said, Read told him she dropped O’Keefe off at the party at the Alberts’ house. When asked if she saw O’Keefe go into the home, Bukhenik said, Read told him she did not. Bukhenik said Read told investigators she made a three point turn and left the scene.
When Bukhenik asked Read about the damage to her SUV’s tail light, he said she responded — “I don’t know. It happened last night.”
Security video from Read’s father’s home showed the back of her car as police seized it and put it on a flatbed. Bukhenik said the rear tail light was illuminated, with a white light visible at the edge.
Another video showed the tow truck arriving at Canton police headquarters with Read’s car on its flatbed.
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damaged. that was proven in court with video of her backing into another vehicle and then it appears that her taillight is still intact.
Where is any video of her taillight being busted? IF they were really investigating the possible homicide of a fellow officer (or any other possible vehicular injury case), they would be taking pics/videos of the car while it was in the driveway, showing their probable cause for even taking it. There should also be pics/videos of it loaded up on the tow truck. There should also be pics of it in the sally port before anybody touched it. None of this was done. None. Then they came up with the altered sally port video and blatantly stated that nobody was ever near that taillight, let alone proctor. We then find out it shows exactly the opposite.

Again, where are ANY pics or videos of that taillight in any of those places? We only have pics taken of it AFTER they started "finding" pieces supposedly at the crime scene, but we don't know for sure because proctor didn't document things correctly or not at all.
 
Guess Who said:
damaged. that was proven in court with video of her backing into another vehicle and then it appears that her taillight is still intact.
Where is any video of her taillight being busted? IF they were really investigating the possible homicide of a fellow officer (or any other possible vehicular injury case), they would be taking pics/videos of the car while it was in the driveway, showing their probable cause for even taking it. There should also be pics/videos of it loaded up on the tow truck. There should also be pics of it in the sally port before anybody touched it. None of this was done. None. Then they came up with the altered sally port video and blatantly stated that nobody was ever near that taillight, let alone proctor. We then find out it shows exactly the opposite.

Again, where are ANY pics or videos of that taillight in any of those places? We only have pics taken of it AFTER they started "finding" pieces supposedly at the crime scene, but we don't know for sure because proctor didn't document things correctly or not at all.
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Bukhenik saw the damage when he visited her at her parents home and Read acknowledged it was damaged and had happened the night o'Keefe was killed. Some of the small pieces were found in the sleeve of his clothes which were sealed and double bagged the night of his death. Then the car was towed to the sally port from Read's parents' house.
 
Guess Who said:
damaged. that was proven in court with video of her backing into another vehicle and then it appears that her taillight is still intact.
Where is any video of her taillight being busted? IF they were really investigating the possible homicide of a fellow officer (or any other possible vehicular injury case), they would be taking pics/videos of the car while it was in the driveway, showing their probable cause for even taking it. There should also be pics/videos of it loaded up on the tow truck. There should also be pics of it in the sally port before anybody touched it. None of this was done. None. Then they came up with the altered sally port video and blatantly stated that nobody was ever near that taillight, let alone proctor. We then find out it shows exactly the opposite.

Again, where are ANY pics or videos of that taillight in any of those places? We only have pics taken of it AFTER they started "finding" pieces supposedly at the crime scene, but we don't know for sure because proctor didn't document things correctly or not at all.
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Did you read the article you just replied to? It's in there - the day after his murder.

"Security video from Read’s father’s home showed the back of her car as police seized it and put it on a flatbed. Bukhenik said the rear tail light was illuminated, with a white light visible at the edge.
Another video showed the tow truck arriving at Canton police headquarters with Read’s car on its flatbed."
 
Tresir said:
Bukhenik saw the damage when he visited her at her parents home and Read acknowledged it was damaged and had happened the night o'Keefe was killed. Some of the small pieces were found in the sleeve of his clothes which were sealed and double bagged the night of his death. Then the car was towed to the sally port from Read's parents' house.
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Again. Damaged. Witness testimony said she saw cracked. That does not describe shattered with most of it missing.

Again also again, no pics or videos until way later
 
Guess Who said:
Again. Damaged. Witness testimony said she saw cracked. That does not describe shattered with most of it missing.

Again also again, no pics or videos until way later
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I don't know what you mean "no pics or video till way later"? They have pics from the video of the flatbed they put the car on. And the video in the sallyport. That's the same day as he died.
 
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