CA LYDIA "DIA" ABRAMS: Missing from her Idyllwild, CA ranch - 6 June 2020 - Age 65

Local resident Lydia “Dia” Abrams has been missing since Sunday, June 7. She was last seen around 2 p.m. on June 6.


According to the Riverside Mountain Rescue Unit (RMRU), a team of volunteers were dispatched on June 9 to Abrams’ 160-acre ranch. They conducted a search from 8 a.m. until 6 p.m. with no success of locating Abrams.

RMRU went out again on June 10 to search more difficult areas on the property including a creek bed and the hills overlooking her ranch. All assignments were completed by 6 p.m. At that point, detectives took over the investigation and called off the physical ground search.


According to a story written on June 19 by CDL Life News, a 49-year-old male was arrested on June 17 in Troutdale, Oregon on suspicion of kidnapping a woman from California. Allegedly, the woman escaped his tractor trailer, ending up at a convenience store and reported that she had been assaulted, held against her will and had been transported by the suspect from California, according to the CDL Life News story.


The Town Crier contacted the Riverside County Sheriff Department (RCSD) to see if this could be Abrams.


Deanna Pecoraro, correctional sergeant from the RCSD, quickly contacted the Riverside County Sheriff investigators on the case, and they reached out to the arresting department in Oregon.


“Per the investigator from Oregon, this female victim is NOT Dia Abrams.” Pecoraro wrote in an email.


As the investigation continues, Pecoraro wrote, “We would like to urge the community to contact law enforcement if they have any information or know the whereabouts of Dia Abrams.”


Abrams is 65 years old, 5 feet, 5 inches tall, 130 lbs with blonde hair and blue eyes. She was last seen wearing a black/turquoise jack, yellow shirt and blue jeans.


If you have any information, contact Riverside County Sheriff Investigator Loureiro at 760-578-2101 or Investigator Vasquez at 951-203-3767. After hours, call the Riverside County Sheriff Dispatch Center at 951-776-1099, option 5.

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LYDIA "DIA" ABRAMS: Missing from her Idyllwild, California ranch since 6 June 2020

Abrams is 65 years old, 5 feet, 5 inches tall, 130 lbs with blonde hair and blue eyes. She was last seen wearing a black/turquoise jack, yellow shirt and blue jeans.

www.crimewatchers.net

 

[GrandmaBear]

Any phone data or geofencing showing what could have happened? She obviously must be somewhere. Last movements etc ?

yeah this was only 2020 and tech for sure should be looked at again. if it hadn't already been.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I guess this video of her on the day she disappeared has been posted? This was only released a year ago.

According to Harper he had lunch with her at 2.30 pm then went back to work. Her phone and purse were left behind. It would be interesting to see if the phone movements that day confirm what he says.

Been a long time since I looked back on this one and no time now, but I know the cinnamon roll story and so i'd think the video was linked here I'd hope.

I may be a fool but her kids care imo about the lack of this case being solved even BEFORE this deadline. Again haven't looked in a long time but he is the culprit imo. And I generally come to an opinion for reasons. Dia's son this says asked for the Feds to get involved, etc. Funny I can watch this one but couldn't watch one in that new CA teenager case. Been having issues on here with such.

 

[GrandmaBear]

So someone else dead too? December 2021? Jodi Newkirk who apparently had some misgivings when she wrote in her diary beforehand.

Yes, that was part of many things that put me on him. MANY things. I'm sure I have forgotten much but reading this one was a real refresh.

 

[GrandmaBear]

See if you can access this article.

Disappearance of wealthy California ranch owner still a mystery after 3 years

Dia Abrams’ disappearance is an intriguing tale of wealth, family estrangement and heated litigation over her assets.

www.eastbaytimes.com

It says Harper was previously a parole agent in Utah. And they met on a dating site.

It is difficult for me to access the whole article.

It is not necessary for trustees to know each other AFAIK. Also we don't really know but she could have planned this disappearance herself. We don't know anything about her finances or tax situation but it does seem to me she may have done it to take charge of her own finances. The way her husband gave her no autonomy over her own life and finances seems old fashioned to me and it can be difficult dealing with trusts setup by parents, grandparents and spouses. They often want to protect assets so they cannot be gambled or given away, spent on drugs or alcohol. There is no proof she is deceased, is there ATM?

sounds i'm sorry like more LDS stuff... The utah thing I mean. from your post.

I haven't read the link yet.

So did you know of this one or just now caught your interest?

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'd like to continue and look at these things but not going to be tonight. Realtor again and more. While working and one more to go and days off are going to likely be fully about trying to cement a deal here. I am catching up on some posts and watching some Tom live and have watched a cooking one or two and my focus isn't great due to the real estate stuiff and just work. I'd rather have the focus. Only half listening to Tom even and that isn't how I like to watch his shows lol.

I will comment to her being alive. I entirely doubt it, like taking off on her own. Did she liquidate cash, has she hit her accounts, etc....?

 

[Tresir]

I'd like to continue and look at these things but not going to be tonight. Realtor again and more. While working and one more to go and days off are going to likely be fully about trying to cement a deal here. I am catching up on some posts and watching some Tom live and have watched a cooking one or two and my focus isn't great due to the real estate stuiff and just work. I'd rather have the focus. Only half listening to Tom even and that isn't how I like to watch his shows lol.

I will comment to her being alive. I entirely doubt it, like taking off on her own. Did she liquidate cash, has she hit her accounts, etc....?

Well that is part of what we do not know. Her husband had a $10 million fortune when he died 5 years ago so who now has control of that? The trustees are her best friend and her partner.

 

[Tresir]

Judge approves sale of missing woman Dia Abrams’ property near Idyllwild

The first of three homes in Abrams' estate has been authorized to sell for an offer of $830K.

www.cbs8.com

Judge approves sale of missing woman Dia Abrams’ property near Idyllwild​

A Riverside County judge signed off on a petition to sell the first of three properties near Idyllwild owned by missing woman Dia Abrams.

The court-appointed trustee of Abrams’ estate appeared remotely on March 8 in Palm Springs probate court seeking to sell the house and property located at 36581 Tool Box Spring Road in Mountain Center for the high offer of $830,000.

Trustee Richard Munro said he had listed the 5-acre property for sale seven months ago. The current asking price is $850,000.

Munro told the judge he intended to seek the court’s permission to sell a second property owned by Abrams “in the next month or two.” The 15-acre Sky High Ranch is located at 28893 Bonita Vista Road and currently is listed for $298,000.

Most of the money from the sale of the Tool Box Spring property will go to pay off the existing mortgage, including mortgage payment in default since April 2020, according to court filings. The mortgage holder is JPMorgan Chase. The property sale is “expected to result in full payment of the outstanding mortgage payoff quote of $778, 127” the petition said.


Under a March 2023 settlement agreement between the parties, if Abrams is not located by June 6, 2025, 50% of her liquidated estate will go to her adult children, Crisara and Clinton Abrams. The other 50% would go to Harper.

So a probate judge and a court appointed trustee have agreed with a settlement that he is going to get half the estate if she is not found in the next year. He has also put in a bill for wages.

So he will receive more than either of her children. Assuming it is still a $10 million estate, that will be more than a million for each year he has known her.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well that is part of what we do not know. Her husband had a $10 million fortune when he died so who now has control of that? The trustees are her best friend and her partner.

If talking the Caddick case, I'd see it.

So been a day, and fell asleep now am up when should be in bed but trying to follow. So you mean she'd be in cahoots with the bf/partner, as to her disappearance and leave him in total control and yet she isn't with him but she left and is alive but they aren't together? Forgive me if I am way off, I am not tracking this. The Caddick case if I have the name right yeah, I could believe this easily, she was about to be arrested, was a con, defrauded, etc., home ha just been raided. I don't follow it at all why you'd think that in this one?

Also, as I said I didn't read and catch up with all you posted so maybe I am missing something. I likely won't get time to either.

He is likely her killer, not her helper. What reason does she have to disappear, be alive and hide the fact?? And he what funnels cash to her somehow and has control of it all and lives on her property?

Again I'm not following why you'd thinks she could be alive and staged her own disappearance?

Did her husband die and she was under suspicion of it? Was she in some kind of trouble that I'm not aware of?

I started writing this last night and finished it this morning as I ended up down for the count.

I saw your last post when I came back in just now. The estate would be worth more than it was valued at then. Property has appreciated quite a bit in the last four years. I know just the percentage mine went up in about that period of time since its last appraisal and with no improvements. So yeah, he'd gain handsomely and is likely her killer and it's just wrong.

I don't see why you'd think she staged her own disappearance but am interested in hearing your reasoning. I was tired when writing this last night and haven't had coffee and unglued my eyes yet this morning and just got up so again maybe I'm missing something.

I was not able to read all your posts and links and may not ever get the time to but did quite a few and think I wasn't that far off from all you'd posted. I'd have to look where I left off.

The other woman too died suspiciously imo and likely due to him. Clearly they had some kind of relationship and she talks of him being a cheat and a womanizer.

 

[Tresir]

sounds i'm sorry like more LDS stuff... The utah thing I mean. from your post.

I haven't read the link yet.

So did you know of this one or just now caught your interest?

No never heard of it before but saw a post by chance yesterday and it intrigued me.

 

[GrandmaBear]

No never heard of it before but saw a post by chance yesterday and it intrigued me.

I've known it I think throughout but not an always active case and not solved and so it fades as to keeping fresh on it. I've never forgotten the basics though or the opinion I formed.

 

[Tresir]

If talking the Caddick case, I'd see it.

So been a day, and fell asleep now am up when should be in bed but trying to follow. So you mean she'd be in cahoots with the bf/partner, as to her disappearance and leave him in total control and yet she isn't with him but she left and is alive but they aren't together? Forgive me if I am way off, I am not tracking this. The Caddick case if I have the name right yeah, I could believe this easily, she was about to be arrested, was a con, defrauded, etc., home ha just been raided. I don't follow it at all why you'd think that in this one?

Also, as I said I didn't read and catch up with all you posted so maybe I am missing something. I likely won't get time to either.

He is likely her killer, not her helper. What reason does she have to disappear, be alive and hide the fact?? And he what funnels cash to her somehow and has control of it all and lives on her property?

Again I'm not following why you'd thinks she could be alive and staged her own disappearance?

Did her husband die and she was under suspicion of it? Was she in some kind of trouble that I'm not aware of?

I started writing this last night and finished it this morning as I ended up down for the count.

I saw your last post when I came back in just now. The estate would be worth more than it was valued at then. Property has appreciated quite a bit in the last four years. I know just the percentage mine went up in about that period of time since its last appraisal and with no improvements. So yeah, he'd gain handsomely and is likely her killer and it's just wrong.

I don't see why you'd think she staged her own disappearance but am interested in hearing your reasoning. I was tired when writing this last night and haven't had coffee and unglued my eyes yet this morning and just got up so again maybe I'm missing something.

I was not able to read all your posts and links and may not ever get the time to but did quite a few and think I wasn't that far off from all you'd posted. I'd have to look where I left off.

The other woman too died suspiciously imo and likely due to him. Clearly they had some kind of relationship and she talks of him being a cheat and a womanizer.

Just a feeling I got from reading how she changed the trustees to him and her friend before she went missing. Plus his travelling to New Mexico the day after she disappeared. Then the marijuana farm being discovered. One of the properties had an enormous mortgage outstanding on it too. $800k or something like that. (The one that's been sold.) The police also took the passenger seat from the RV. So was she travelling to NM with him?

Something just sounds off about the whole thing.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Just a feeling I got from reading how she changed the trustees to him and her friend before she went missing. Plus his travelling to New Mexico the day after she disappeared. Then the marijuana farm being discovered. One of the properties had an enormous mortgage outstanding on it too. $800k or something like that. (The one that's been sold.) The police also took the passenger seat from the RV. So was she travelling to NM with him?

Something just sounds off about the whole thing.

Okay, I can see why then to a point. However, it more appears to me once he knew he was set if something happened to her and he could control or take over imo he killed her. And I think that's what LE thinks, etc.

But who knows... I think he's a gigolo basically that plays women and finds ones with money, etc.... The 4-wheeler accident lady adds to that even with the things said to him by her and so on.

There's also did she willingly change things or had he convinced her he could be trusted, her kids couldn't, and just I mean who knows...?

I had forgotten some of this like the pot farm, you'd think I'd have recalled that, the mortgage is big but big compared to what she owned and had?

As far as his trip to NM and taking the RV seat I'd say to see if he took her body in it, had her with and killed her, etc...

I think the biggest thing is they'd I would think be able to access her accounts and see any transactions, maybe not, I mean she's an adult but they think she's dead and they suspect him I'm pretty sure and have reason to. Regardless, why would she leave her "man" if all is well and go into hiding? For what reason?

I'd really have to look back through everything and my posts and you name it to really get to why, but I think almost all believe he killed her and for good reason. I mean even on this thread. They can speak for themselves but that's how I recall it. And for plenty of good reason even if I don't recall them all lol.

I've said in other threads that one thing I do know even if I can't recall all, I have reasons I come to a STRONG opinion in most. I wait and have like a meter in my head and it's at 0, or like a scale and then it goes negative or positive up and down as the case goes on and more becomes known. Too many coincidences starts leaning against the person. So do too many contradictions. Various things play in. Meter goes one way then the other. In many cases it only goes negative pretty shortly in. Etc.

I know I am convinced in this one he murdered her and he sure has profited from it. And controlled it all. I can't recall each and every reason but I know I form them from a solid basis.

Some cases I just get an opinion and don't have a lot but I will say that and why. And then I won't say I'm at a high percentage though either. Goodrich is one. Xavier is another. I see enough to be running on the negative meter against a likely perp but not enough to be positive or enough to back the opinion up fully.

This helps show why you think this but you're looking at it as if he helped her run off for what reason and they split up and then he owns everything and controls it? Why? Was she about to be arrested? That was the case in Caddick, so that one there's a lot of reason to wonder that.

 

[Tresir]

Okay, I can see why then to a point. However, it more appears to me once he knew he was set if something happened to her and he could control or take over imo he killed her. And I think that's what LE thinks, etc.

But who knows... I think he's a gigolo basically that plays women and finds ones with money, etc.... The 4-wheeler accident lady adds to that even with the things said to him by her and so on.

There's also did she willingly change things or had he convinced her he could be trusted, her kids couldn't, and just I mean who knows...?

I had forgotten some of this like the pot farm, you'd think I'd have recalled that, the mortgage is big but big compared to what she owned and had?

As far as his trip to NM and taking the RV seat I'd say to see if he took her body in it, had her with and killed her, etc...

I think the biggest thing is they'd I would think be able to access her accounts and see any transactions, maybe not, I mean she's an adult but they think she's dead and they suspect him I'm pretty sure and have reason to. Regardless, why would she leave her "man" if all is well and go into hiding? For what reason?

I'd really have to look back through everything and my posts and you name it to really get to why, but I think almost all believe he killed her and for good reason. I mean even on this thread. They can speak for themselves but that's how I recall it. And for plenty of good reason even if I don't recall them all lol.

I've said in other threads that one thing I do know even if I can't recall all, I have reasons I come to a STRONG opinion in most. I wait and have like a meter in my head and it's at 0, or like a scale and then it goes negative or positive up and down as the case goes on and more becomes known. Too many coincidences starts leaning against the person. So do too many contradictions. Various things play in. Meter goes one way then the other. In many cases it only goes negative pretty shortly in. Etc.

I know I am convinced in this one he murdered her and he sure has profited from it. And controlled it all. I can't recall each and every reason but I know I form them from a solid basis.

Some cases I just get an opinion and don't have a lot but I will say that and why. And then I won't say I'm at a high percentage though either. Goodrich is one. Xavier is another. I see enough to be running on the negative meter against a likely perp but not enough to be positive or enough to back the opinion up fully.

This helps show why you think this but you're looking at it as if he helped her run off for what reason and they split up and then he owns everything and controls it? Why? Was she about to be arrested? That was the case in Caddick, so that one there's a lot of reason to wonder that.

He and her friend were made trustees and that's all I know really. I don't really know why the children have settled with him at all but I don't know what was in the mother's trust but it seems she wanted what she thought was her fair share of her spouses estate as the widow rather than it all going to the kids.

I noticed that enormous mortgage too and it makes me wonder if the other properties have mortgages too. If so, 50% may not end up to be very much for the partner in the end.

And he only gets it next year if she is declared dead. It's certainly weird. I guess we wait until the other properties sell.

 

[GrandmaBear]

He and her friend were made trustees and that's all I know really. I don't really know why the children have settled with him at all but I don't know what was in the mother's trust but it seems she wanted what she thought was her fair share of her spouses estate as the widow rather than it all going to the kids.

I noticed that enormous mortgage too and it makes me wonder if the other properties have mortgages too. If so, 50% may not end up to be very much for the partner in the end.

And he only gets it next year if she is declared dead. It's certainly weird. I guess we wait until the other properties sell.

I don't think I recalled the part about it going to her or she wanted rather than to his kids or is it their kids? In this fight it is her kids isn't it? Admitting I'm not sure here, though I knew.

Yeah we looked up or tried to the guy who offered on my property today. Been quite a day. He has no online presence (a bit odd) but owns two other properties in the area. Just trying to see viability as to counter offers.

But owning other properties doesn't mean a lot. At one time we "owned" three. But each owned one mortgaged when we met and then we bought the third at auction. It doesn't mean they aren't mortgaged and ours also when hoping to sell one or the other were in the years the Fannie May and Freddie Mac and political fiasco with a bad housing market happened. And no politics there right and both companies still exist. What is wrong with this world... SMH.

So here too I don't know if If knew that but it could all be on a house of cards as far as big mortgages or she could have even taken one to help him out somehow or she herself with her former hub or who knows.

It is weird. But here is what I do remember. He totally took over and lived there and controlled it and basically owned it or tried to. And mom went missing. He was last of course to see her. He has lived free and clear at least for the years since she died however I guess he may owe his former lawyer, etc. There has been a fight for some time and someone else can probably get all this more accurate than I.

There is real reason that most believe he did it, murdered her, but one can call me out as all the reasons I'd have to refresh on but they are there.

It is though interesting to see someone look at it anew or for the first time and pick up on things like big mortgages. I wouldn't have known or recalled that. And again we owned three at one time ourselves but we didn't "own" three. As they had mortgages. So what looks like what on a plat or paper isn't necessarily the case or owned "outright".

Still, as you look through it, I am pretty sure imo he killed her. In this case. But it is interesting to learn things or recall from a fresh set of eyes.

It is why too I think in old or cold cases, there is nothing wrong with a fresh set of eyes and in fact they all should be given such. Haileigh Cummings is one I was just thinking of that today with. Never said it but thinking it would be a good thing to take another good look but with some new eyes also.

I don't think Dia is alive or took off and I am pretty solid on he killed her but of course I don't know that and they don't have enough that they have ever charged him I guess. But it is interesting to hear what you are finding being new to it and being refreshed on some of it. Like I said, I usually form an opinion based on what we have learned and I don't already recall the facts that formed it when they get cold, old and quiet, but generally there is real reason come to an opinion.

And imo this man murdered her.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I am cooking which I never get to any longer. I need to calm. Anyhow the place smells like bacon right now. It is blaming and next on to what to make with the cooked bacon.

I hope this woman gets justice. And is found.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Lol BALMING. Not blaming. Stupid laptop, site, browser or whatever it is.

 

[Tresir]

I am cooking which I never get to any longer. I need to calm. Anyhow the place smells like bacon right now. It is blaming and next on to what to make with the cooked bacon.

I hope this woman gets justice. And is found.

The reason I think she may have absconded and put the estate with trustees is because she appeared to be estranged from her kids due to the row over the cancellation of the pre nup that she wanted. I don't think she could have got much of her husbands £10 million estate, probably got just an income from it. Did she win that court case to cancel the pre nup?

 

[GrandmaBear]

The reason I think she may have absconded and put the estate with trustees is because she appeared to be estranged from her kids due to the row over the cancellation of the pre nup that she wanted. I don't think she could have got much of her husbands £10 million estate, probably got just an income from it. Did she win that court case to cancel the pre nup?

No idea. I had forgotten even about the hub I think or the money there. I just knew she had property and it was not this "bf's" or is mostly what I recalled anyhow. It was never really a "pet" case but I'v pretty much followed it for the most part along the way.

I get your thoughts but still don't see it really. She wanted a pre nup? Or the dead hub did? Or are you talking the new guy, the suspect in this one? Imo.

Even if not getting along or in agreement, would you go into hiding over your kids for all these years? Coffee needs to kick in but I'm not following and even confused I guess.

I am thinking I should not even talk to any prenup as I am not following but on one had you say the one she wanted was canceled and in the next she had a court case to get it canceled and did she win? That's what is confusing me at the moment? It sounds as if she wanted one but then wanted to get rid of one.

Again I'm not fresh on it either and you probably have been doing great diligent research now that it interested you. So that probably plays in, I'm just not following.

I do't recall any reason to think she's alive though and I don't believe her to be. As I've said, I don't always recall all my reasons in cases for coming to my conclusion or opinion when time goes on, they quiet, and such, but I know my way of coming to conclusions and there's always enough reason I reach them at least as far as how I tend to do it, in MOST anyhow. And I pretty much always recall the opinion I reached if not all of the details and reasons. Actually in almost all, there are reasons. I might even start out some with a feeling and not so much reasons but then I say not sure yet, opinion not high percentage and so on just starting to lean one way or another.

Anyhow despite giving myself three hours and getting up on time, they sure are passing by and I haven't moved to speak of. I need to slowly start to although maybe a bit quicker than my usually somewhat leisurely when I have more time.

Doesn't mean I don't still pop in as that's kind of what I do in between getting ready tasks.

I'm probably the one not getting it by the way but I am not following well.

If a prenup with the hub, they could have even had an agreement, she'd get the property if he died but not the money or any various arrangement. Are the kids a product of that marriage, maybe that's part of what I am missing, I don't recall. Meaning "theirs".

Kind of gloomy at the moment. I need to turn a light on I guess because it is playiing in I think to my not thinking it's time to start moving. I don't think I have ever mentioned this but I detest artificial light but of course we need it.

This is one of those last threads/cases I didn't get to last night or I should say at 3 or whatever this morning.

Clearly I'm confused though and I don't get what going to hiding from her own kids and making him trustee, etc. accomplishes. She just could not face, them deal with them?