Yes same judge. I still think the prosecutors did a phenomenal job in both trials.... it was same ADA team both times. Those women I can't thank enough. But ultimately you never know what a jury will do.
Even with the things that were left out of the second trial there was enough presented to prove that he did this. I feel in my opinion that they met their burden of proof.... but the jury did not
That BITES. When our verdict came in, it was fast enough that I figured it was guilty, some of my family well all don't necessarily follow crime, I just felt it. But they had choices and first degree was said first and it was not guilty and OMG what we had been through and this was over seconds of time, we just clenched hands, couldn't talk to each other of course, but I knew what all were thinking, as I was, PLEASE do not LET him GET OFF. Even though I knew quicker verdicts are quite often guilty, it scared the sh*t out of me, I mean right there we were facing maybe after all of the years, we weren't going to get a guilty, but then they read second degree and he was guilty, and I mean we probably did a freaking audible sigh of relief seriously. There are no WORDS to explain that moment but we knew the fear of a not guilty, even before that but our team too did a phenomenal job and I was pretty certain they had proved the case but you still really don't ever know.
So what I'm saying is I sure can identify on how hard it was to get that verdict because we weren't sure after the first one read that that wasn't what we were going to get. Honestly the entire thing probably took years of all of our lives and turned us all gray who weren't.
Of course we thought him guilty of first degree but at LEAST he was found guilty of the crime. Three years for us and in this crime here man it's been decades. I can't imagine as I know the toll.
Well once they finally were able to determine who, so different than ours but that time on verdict, getting a not guilty, My God.
Again DNA is the gold standard to some people and a few here even and they had such. I couldn't believe all agreed as to NG.
It has to be devastating. In Delphi, I could imagine those minutes of the families at verdict time. I will never forget ours, and other times re it either.
Lol I also knew when the jury ordered lunch a bit early, we weren't told that but saw it being delivered... My family did not buy it but I said they've reached a verdict. I'd bet on it. Then sure enough a bit later, I don't know how long but lunch probably finished, last relaxing thing and paid for, I saw someone scurry down the hall in the room in the DA's office we were given for privacy if needed and during breaks or times anyone couldn't handle parts of the trial, etc. That by the way is a Godsend. And I said to my family, and some family friends who were there, again, I think we have a verdict because of that. We had been in there off and on for a week and I'd never seen such. I don't think they believed me again. Anyhow just recalling it all but minutes later yep we were told there was one. But hearing the FIRST highest charge come back not guilty was scary as heck. And about as much as we could take on top of all through these years.
So longwinded but just saying if we had heard all not guiltys I don't know how we'd have come through it so I sure the heck can empathize with that happening here. OUrs wasn't even kept in JAIL since the murder, he bonded out. He broke violations and still was not put back in.
Risking a sidetrack so stopping with that.
I didn't attend this trial as it seems you did, and perhaps I should recall your connection but I don't, been some time and not very good at that lately. So you know best what you think it lacked or wasn't done the same, etc. that the jury came back this way, but in general I have opinions on some cases and in this one, I am guessing they saw a man by all appearances had lived a decent life since, older, and a victim that had been passed for decades. I felt in ours and maybe I'm wrong, but just my thinking that ours was a three month old baby where the perp appeared to be a church going, hard working, volunteer firefighter, etc. but let me tell you that's not who he is underneath and the real sh*t about him, oh boy. We did get a guilty but the judge went beyond soft. RIDICULOUS. For MURDER. So I sure understand and did when I heard the verdict in this one right off the bat, I could NOT believe it.
Now that disgustingly it can't be retried, have any of the jurors in this spoken out as to why? I mean again there was DNA which many think is the gold standard although I think I could argue that these days with the touch and transfer DNA but it was under her nails wasn't it?
He will have another judgment day is the only way I could tell myself to get through it.
It was an awful time and we didn't have decades. Harder than he77.
But I will say we too, had a very good team. No complaints there at all. Investigators, prosecutor, etc. Dealt with a whole lot of b.s. though that was hard to take. All of it.
But again, enough by me.
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