PAUL & MAGGIE MURDAUGH: South Carolina vs. Alex Murdaugh for Double Homicide of wife & son *GUILTY*

This case is being kept pretty quiet, no major details released to speak of (other than it does say there were two different guns used), but no info regarding who found them, who called 911, very little else.

Of interest, the grandfather died just a few days after these murders and it sounds as if he was ill from various articles so probably not unexpected. I think of the typical motives, did grandpa have a big estate? How big in the overall family of grandpa's on down? They sound like a pretty well known family and a powerful one in their state, more on that in the article.

Questions abound in SC Murdaugh killing. Among them: Should prosecutor step aside?

Several days after two members of a prominent Hampton County family were fatally shot, questions about what happened still vastly outnumber answers.

www.postandcourier.com

 

[Tresir]

That is not calling him a murderer.

I dont think I said they called him a murderer did I ? I was using the "alleged" and the "accused" adjective as an example. Court TV could have added "alleged" or "accused" but they didn't- what they said they stated as fact. They could have said "allegedly" lied about his relationship with Maggie and Paul but they didn't. I don't remember him saying this in his testimony but could have missed it.

 

[Tresir]

They were treating him with kid gloves. They HaVE proved he used his shots alliances with LE to his advantage. I'm just disappointed that they haven't connected all that together to make sure the jury understands that.

They also got him to admit how easily he got agitated while in the depths of his addiction.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean by " shots alliances with LE to his advantage".

 

[Tresir]

There are no legal grounds for him to sue because Alex admitted in court that he is a liar and lies by omission. In the particular stream cuz was watching the commentators tend to make statements to draw in the public to their viewership. This is why I watch the trial to form my own opinion without bias.

Alex Murdaugh is not getting out of jail, ever, if he's found not guilty or there's a hung jury in the murder case. There are a LOT of additional lawsuits regarding his financial crimes that he's already admitted to.

I guess that being branded a liar is better than being a convicted murderer. Regarding the financial crimes, his banker is still out of jail so far, despite being convicted. Are they being prosecuted separately do you know?

 

[Guess Who]

Sorry I don't understand what you mean by " shots alliances with LE to his advantage".

Stupid phone! I don't know why it added shots.

 

[Tresir]

Stupid phone! I don't know why it added shots.

Ah that makes sense then. Mind you, all lawyers use alliances with LE to their advantage, don't they?

 

[Tresir]

There is a useful chart in here about Codeine v Morphine (morphine is 10 x the strength of codeine) and oxycodone v morphine (oxycodone is 1.5 times the strength of morphine)

Relative Doses of Opioids – West Midlands Palliative Care

 

[Tresir]

I found this article from January that discusses his financial crimes - (supposedly the motive for the murders). The attachment would not load for me as it is based on geo location, but it is supposed to be details of his indictments/charges.

Alex Murdaugh’s 19 indictments and 99 financial charges explained

When the trial of Alex Murdaugh begins next week in Colleton County, prosecutors are expected to argue that he murdered his wife and son to distract from the millions of dollars he stole from friends, family, clients and his former law firm.

www.live5news.com

 

[RoundPeg]

I read along a lot. I just saw this.

 

[Guess Who]

Ah that makes sense then. Mind you, all lawyers use alliances with LE to their advantage, don't they?

he purposefully displayed his deputy badge in a very visible location whenever he was interacting with them. It was obvious that he was doing it, yet he says it was "accidental" that he had it displayed with the visible part hanging out of his pocket. It was far from accidental the way it was hanging. He always "accidentally" had it in visible places on other occasions, yet conceded that he did use it to his advantage in some conditions...but supposedly not these particular incidences. Yeah, right. The way they are designed, it is not accidental to have it showing if you are placing it IN your pocket.

 

[Guess Who]

I read along a lot. I just saw this.

Yep it only takes one to hang it up. Casey Anthony comes to mind on this.

 

[kdg411]

Has he been criminally charged with the financial crimes? I am not up to speed on that. I believe the banker is doing time but not sure exactly what financial stuff he or AM has been charged with. The banker was on the witness list but I don't think he has been called.

ETA he has been convicted on 6 counts and is out on bail awaiting sentence I just reminded myself. I read this a few days ago and meant to post it on here.

Banker for Alex Murdaugh convicted of bank fraud charges

CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — A banker charged with helping disbarred attorney Alex Murdaugh take money from the legal settlements of clients was found guilty late Tuesday of wire and bank fraud charges in South Carolina.

apnews.com

I notice only "a banker" is mentioned in the headlines rather than the banker's name yet AM's name is mentioned in the headlines.

Yes, Alex Murdaugh has been criminally charged for his financial crimes.

SC grand jury indicts Alex Murdaugh for tax evasion

COLUMBIA, S.C. (WCBD) – A State Grand Jury on Friday issued new indictments against former attorney Alex Murdaugh related to tax evasion. South Carolina Attorney General said Murdaugh was indicted …

www.counton2.com

 

[kdg411]

I guess that being branded a liar is better than being a convicted murderer. Regarding the financial crimes, his banker is still out of jail so far, despite being convicted. Are they being prosecuted separately do you know?

Absolutely! From watching him testify his demeanor about financial misdeeds appears easier for him to admit guilt. Maybe in his mind those are easier to forgive than murder.

 

[kdg411]

I read along a lot. I just saw this.

IMO, that is salacious. Judge Newman gives lots of breaks for the jury and if at any time they appear uncomfortable he gives them a break.

After listening to the entire trial, I don't doubt some are upset and/or emotional. The brutality of the murders was shown in autopsy photos to the jury only and I'm glad they are under seal.

This jury is being tasked with a complex case with very limited physical evidence. Whatever decision they come up with won't be easy.

 

[Tresir]

he purposefully displayed his deputy badge in a very visible location whenever he was interacting with them. It was obvious that he was doing it, yet he says it was "accidental" that he had it displayed with the visible part hanging out of his pocket. It was far from accidental the way it was hanging. He always "accidentally" had it in visible places on other occasions, yet conceded that he did use it to his advantage in some conditions...but supposedly not these particular incidences. Yeah, right. The way they are designed, it is not accidental to have it showing if you are placing it IN your pocket.

What's the point of having a badge if he doesn't show it ? Aren't lawyers all a part of the whole Law Enforcement umbrella? At police stations in the UK there is always a duty solicitor available. So police and solicitors (lawyers) have to work side by side in many situations.

 

[kdg411]

What's the point of having a badge if he doesn't show it ? Aren't lawyers all a part of the whole Law Enforcement umbrella? At police stations in the UK there is always a duty solicitor available. So police and solicitors (lawyers) have to work side by side in many situations.

He admitted on the stand to showing his solicitor badge for special privileges.

In the US lawyers are NOT under the law enforcement umbrella.

 

[Tresir]

Absolutely! From watching him testify his demeanor about financial misdeeds appears easier for him to admit guilt. Maybe in his mind those are easier to forgive than murder.

I don't see how killing his wife and youngest son would solve these financial problems. Could someone elaborate how that would work? He is still going to have those 99 charges and 15 indictments, isn't he, so how will they go away?

 

[Tresir]

He admitted on the stand to showing his solicitor badge for special privileges.

In the US lawyers are NOT under the law enforcement umbrella.

So what does the badge actually say and what is it supposed to be for? Is it a Colleton County badge?

 

[Tresir]

I read along a lot. I just saw this.

Another poster said two jurors were crying as well. If the prosecutor doesn't explain what motive he actually had, I can see the jury acquitting him.

 

[Guess Who]

IMO, that is salacious. Judge Newman gives lots of breaks for the jury and if at any time they appear uncomfortable he gives them a break.

After listening to the entire trial, I don't doubt some are upset and/or emotional. The brutality of the murders was shown in autopsy photos to the jury only and I'm glad they are under seal.

This jury is being tasked with a complex case with very limited physical evidence. Whatever decision they come up with won't be easy.

From what I have watched, I do really like this judge. He's not dramatic and seems very fair in applying actual law

 

[Guess Who]

What's the point of having a badge if he doesn't show it ? Aren't lawyers all a part of the whole Law Enforcement umbrella? At police stations in the UK there is always a duty solicitor available. So police and solicitors (lawyers) have to work side by side in many situations.

You are not to use it for special privileges as he was doing, even though they do and he admitted to doing so. He just won't admit to doing so for this particular time and when he went to the hospital after Paul's wreck.