Yeah. That speaks for itself. 3 hrs. Smh. It's taken much longer than that on solid murder cases. That looks even worse for the prosecution. To do not just one thing that is questionable, But several. And some IMO, Like that are so obvious. IDKY They would be so stupid.
Our jury was about three to four hours. it is actually quite common. In a solid case and particularly one that is a normal length of days to a week and not some big name national sh*tfest. or Hollywood thing that takes six weeks to months. They all sat through trial and in a strong one without a lot of bullsh*t (like Delphi for instance), and with ample strong evidence, I feel most are generally in agreement. They vote and maybe 11 are and one is close but not there yet. They discuss. They weigh the evidence for the one unsure IF there is even one unsure. Even if all sure, they discuss the reasons why and all see similar they truly have reasons, some are similar, and each sees other things and reasons an they all give the reasons, etc. So then they they know all are solid do the veridict form. They are decided before lunch and they decide to have lunch and then say they have reached a verdict. That is EXACTLY what happened in ours and I called it and my family didn't believe me when lunch came in earlier than normal for the jury on the 5th day. I was right. But where did I get that? From watching MANY a trial.
Harvard Lawyer Lee did a really good one you and
@Tresir should watch. I know you both watched the other one I put up. She took Hill's filed response and statements and put them in a chart against defense allegations re jurors of which things she ignored, which things she admitted and which things she strongly denied were true, etc. The video takes a few minutes for her to kind of get her bearings and explain her charting and follow it herself, but once she gets going, it is quite good. And she does flat out deny some things. I have to tell you I don't believe the egg juror. I do believe Hill called her in which should not have happened from all I understand about a Clerk's position. So I am not siding with Hill. But I think the Egg lady has added and is making some sh*t up. Jmo. i don't even know what Lee's opinion is as I haven't reached the end of it yet but hope to continue it tonight. It is my opinion solely. This is what is so hard about all of this is I don't 100 percent believe either side but even with Hill's son's arrest, and even if Hill is guilty of a lot (not sure on that), I would still feel Egg juror is lying about a lot.
You know, it is sad we can't see and hear these people which is why there likely should be a hearing? I don't think jurors should be thrown under the bus but even for the judge, or appeals court, talking to the juror is a lot different than reading what they allegedly said in some filing.
I think if we saw Egg juror questioned and cross examined, most would not believe her. But I don't know that. Maybe I would change my far from certain opinion to total belief in her.
I also believe some things were said or asked from her ON EXITING and it was by a bailiff or the one that guards the jury proceedings. It is soo much actual stuff that really does go on. We had two alternates who were dismissed upon a random pick of 14 at the end of trial as to who would deliberate. We only were told AFTER conviction they had been asked on exiting how they would have voted, and a ton of the things Egg juror claims. And it was news to us. And apparently this is okay. We didn't hearing it until after and of course the deliberating jury didn't. And ONE was not sold against our perp. He didn't like the female expert doctors who by the way were outstanding and not in any over the top way, soooo very good at the truth, putting it in terms all of us could understand from a layperson's lack of medical knowledge and handled cross examination beautifully and honestly. All I could figure and I know the type and know not the juror's name but which one he was, is he is the type like a lot in our neck of the woods who can't take a woman having brains or being far beyond my expertise or his. They were soooo good and likable and solid. With vast experience. AND caring. I haven't even watched a big televised trial where experts for prosecution (and they are always GOOD ones and REAL ones generally unlike defense) outshined these women. One was the key person at the hospital that took her in and pronounced her brain dead as time went on and tests (not that much time but a long time if you were living it in the moment) and the other is a TOP NOTCH coroner from MN who we as many did sent out to and the she sent out a further sample to an expert in the area of the skull fracture. That result is what we waited months for.
Anyhow on topic but a bit off and I can't talk more of that anyhow, it will never not hurt like it was yesterday, I do think some of Egg's things were said or asked but on exiting and not by the Clerk. After being dismissed by Newman. This IS done. Or can be.
And that brings me to I know the average person probably does not know the difference between a clerk of court, a county clerk (diffferent), a bailiff or detective, etc., etc. but how could she mix up Becky Hill and questions in her office prior to dismissal and questions by a bailiff or similar on exiting and after getting her eggs and dismissal? Huh? When Hill talked to her no one had determined she would be dismissed. But these are very standard questions on exiting. Not by the judge and no we did not know either. I haven't had as always a lot of time but these things were also said in a response to the defense if I recall. That she is confused and this sounds like something a bailiff asked. And it made perfect sense to me.
I am also not convinced there was no ex husband post claiming what she said to him and no cause for this concern. Did Hill really believe she wouldn't have to show it to the juror, to a judge as solid as Newman, etc.? I mean I don't see her as that clueless.
Now to be fair on the other hand, now knowing her son is some tech savvy person working IN the county (or was)..
There is dirty here all right but which side AND I'm not convinced there isn't dirty on both sides.... It is like believing now that all the law firm were honest people except Alex and now they are different "sides" but were they really....? ALL of them? I mean they made victims whole and that sure looks good and have cut their ties so to speak when they HAD to... Do we think Becky Hill has always been anti Poot or anti Murdaugh...? And there are some out there that think is she truly even now... I mean this is all benefiting Alex who may well end up with a new murder trial...
Anyhow didn't even have it in me to catch up this much and behind on all else with day 6 in front of me tomorrow. Before I am done for I will try to bring Lee's video on showing what Hill responded to, what she ignored, what she denied strongly, etc. and link it here.
I wouldn't point you wrong on what I think you will find worth watching.
