Suspicious death of Gene Hackman, his wife and their dog in New Mexico - February 2025

Tresir said:
It was shut in a closet according to one report and in a kennel in another report. I am thinking like a walk in closet. Wonder if she fell and died against the closet door and the dog was in the closet and so died in there as it couldnt get out.

So a mud room is like what we call a boot room - for muddy boots?
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I never saw whether the door was even closed or not to the closet. Good thought, her falling against the door. That would then explain the dog but don't want to think about it as a horrid way to go.

Yes, a mud room is for taking shoes and boots off, usually contains the washer and dryer and is off an entry. Hard to say what the one for a mansion is like but they vary in size and if big one might keep a freezer in there, have a bench to take shoes off and so forth, hooks to hang coats...
 
RoundPeg said:
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I read that they went out and ate this day, forget the place but think it may have been seafood, in Santa Fe. Allegedly was last year, last time seen out together.

I know they weren't out and about a lot but I wonder if they had family over for dinner or went to their places or if any of his kids lived nearby, etc. At 95, he may not have done a lot though I suppose but in this pic he is getting around yet at that age so that's doing pretty well imo. Just a cane, can walk, not a walker, etc. My dad used only a cane up through his death despite having some major leg issues over the last decades of his life. He was heading towards 90, in his 80s.

I liked too a few of the pictures where it showed him at a shop or two in town talking to the locals, like the bike shop. They were private but apparently were seen at times over the years.

Anyhow, I guess that pic also tells us a year ago he was in good enough shape to get out to eat yet. His family probably knows his health better but seems fairly healthy for his age imo.

I hope they get this figured out. I'd add that he lived a long full life, she died fairly young though. May they both RIP and the dog as well.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I never saw whether the door was even closed or not to the closet. Good thought, her falling against the door. That would then explain the dog but don't want to think about it as a horrid way to go.

Yes, a mud room is for taking shoes and boots off, usually contains the washer and dryer and is off an entry. Hard to say what the one for a mansion is like but they vary in size and if big one might keep a freezer in there, have a bench to take shoes off and so forth, hooks to hang coats...
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Ah. We call that a utility room. He maybe could have fallen or tripped as he entered.
 
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Tresir said:
Ah. We call that a utility room. He maybe could have fallen or tripped as he entered.
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If no basement, the mud room often does host the hot water heater and furnace as well. If there is a basement, those things are usually in the basement instead. Not every home has a mud room. Generally they are near the back door or adjoining the garage/home entry door. Front doors are thought of as more formal and many don't use them or only strangers will ring that bell. I was taught from the time I was a kid you use the back door if you know the family particularly, or knock on that. For that reason, I picture him and the mud room found near a back or side door. And the front door being open would seem to indicate a stranger IF it was open due to someone who was there and not left open by the homeowner/s, etc.

You know where he is concerned, yes, he could have tripped and fell or at his age suffered a sudden heart attack. That doesn't explain her thought. And a fall wouldn't necessarily kill him unless he fell and laid there without help for some time. A heart attack might.

I'd imagine all feel the same in that I just go in circles on this one and nothing seems to make sense. Without it being carbon monoxide, I can't see this not having some element of foul play involved because nothing else makes any sense, even if it was foul play by one of them OR an intruder whether welcome guest or known to them.
 
911 call. Short video. Hmmm. There's two--one dead he says. Home was locked. We've heard the front door was open... Saw that they were down through window/s.

There's no address, there's a reason why for that he says. I suppose because they are famous. Are you "allowed" to have no address?

 
So I am listening to the sheriff and LE and it sounds like the two bodies were fairly far apart in this big home. It took them a bit to locate all.

Also he says several doors were unsecured. He says the front door was unlocked but closed. There was another door that was open and which the dogs were coming in and out through. My guess is THIS is where he was found and is the mud room most likely. My GUESS is he just came in and then fell, OR he was letting the dogs out, and fell before closing the door? I don't think he was walking through the mud room to go outside as the door wouldn't have been open yet. Just a guess and that's IF it's the right door.

I'd link this question and answer session but it is on a YT video that is longer and I don't have a direct link.

They also said which one would assume, the autopsies are going to be key here, and the results.
 
He also said they need to check with EMS to be sure they didn't leave a door open or unlocked. One would think they'd already know this.
 
There were sunglasses near him. It appeared with him at least that he had "suddenly" fallen.
 
Here. IF you get a log in thing like I did, just exit it, hit the X, and you are on the sheriff's page.

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For anyone still wondering, both bodies were negative for Carbon monoxide.

Also his last event per the pacemaker was 02/17. I think he said cardiac event and I THINK he said pacemaker. I don't want to rewind it right now as I want to hear it live and it's continuing at the moment.

He was asked if they can tell who died first and he said that's something they asked and hope to determine too.
 
NO security cams inside or out they know of.

THey have their cell phones, a 2025 planner, etc.
 
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