NV TOD MOTOR JOHN DOE: WM, 25-40, found suicide in hotel in Las Vegas, NV - 11 Sep 2006 - letter written in German *IDENTIFIED*

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1240UMNV - Unidentified Male
Photograph of decedent.

Date of Discovery: September 11, 2006
Location of Discovery: Las Vegas, Clark County, Nevada
Estimated Date of Death: Recent
State of Remains: Recognizable face
Cause of Death: Suicide by gunshot

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 25-40 years old
Race: White
Sex: Male
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 197 lbs.
Hair Color: Brown; stubble present.
Eye Color: Blue
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Surgical scar on lower left abdomen, 4"-6" long. Birthmark above the left knee.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available. Natural teeth in fair repair.
Fingerprints: Available.
DNA: Available.

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Gray Fruit of the Loom T-shirt, size XL; blue undershorts, Fruit of the Loom, size XL.
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery
The decedent was found inside the Tod Motor Motel at 1508 Las Vegas Blvd. South, on September 11, 2006 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The man had checked into the hotel on August 21, 2006. When he failed to check out, as scheduled on September 11, he was found dead by the manager. He had died from an apparent self-iflected gunshot wound to his head.

He was using the name of a live person who had his identity stolen in California.

His property contained a letter written in German to his sister Brigit no last name, no address, no city/country - the decedent makes reference to an ex-wife named Karen that lives in Perth, Australia and a possible daughter named Amy.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Clark County Coroner
Agency Contact Person: Ashley Grygor
Agency Phone Number: 702-455-3210
Agency E-Mail: CoronerUnidentified(at)clarkcountyNV.gov
Agency Case Number: 06-07139

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 417

Information Source(s)

NamUs
Clark County Coroner

 
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No, Im not angered or angry at all.

Nor do I need instant gratification.

I only skimmed this thread reading some not all. I was not aware you are writing of it or that you would think I meant anything personally directed at you. I diidn't and don't.I

Imo authorities would the ones not giving out a name.

Imo as well, stealing someone's identity is a crime and I don't believe in adult criminals having their names guarded.

While I feel for the family or any family, I simply don't agree it is right.

And if protection is due to something he did for govt. or whatever else that talk is about, he is dead now and so his name being known cannot hurt him.

Again, I did not mean you nor anyone else on here was doing it, I assumed it was authorities or authorities as well for sure.

I am also not scared to disagree with others and say so if I do. I feel no need to always be in agreement, and people aren't always, not just me either.

Keeping a book suspenseful is a lot different that authorities holding back a name.
Imo as well, stealing someone's identity is a crime and I don't believe in adult criminals having their names guarded.

We can't deny the crime that TMD did. How he obtained the identity of a homeless man battling schizophrenia is horrible and unacceptable. However, even in criminal investigations, which this case is not, it's important for investigators to withhold the names of suspects due to the ongoing investigation. So even though this isn't a criminal investigation, most criminal investigations always involve withholding information for the sake of a strong case in court.

While I feel for the family or any family, I simply don't agree it is right.

Again, like my friend said - withholding TMD's name was at the request of his family. They have good reasons to not want their name(s) or his name out there. I don't know how many times this has to be said. Imagine if your family member passed away as a Doe and you found out 16 years after the fact like this gentleman's family did. Lot of emotions, right? Plus, the complex circumstances of his life that make it even more tragic and heartbreaking. I'm sorry you feel that it isn't right but you don't get to decide - TMD's family do.

And if protection is due to something he did for govt. or whatever else that talk is about, he is dead now and so his name being known cannot hurt him.

I thought this had been cleared up but if it hasn't, I'll say it again,

TMD was not a spy working for the American government or the German government. He was a deeply intelligent man but had a bad habit of scamming people, something he was skilled in so much that he was able to stay under the radar. TMD was many things - a secret agent was not one of them.

Yes, this coming September will be 18 years since he passed away and releasing his name may not hurt him, but it would absolutely impact his family. They just aren't ready yet.

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But believe me, and my friend said this earlier - this man's life story suffices well above knowing his identity. A name doesn't tell a story - the story tells a story.
 
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Imo as well, stealing someone's identity is a crime and I don't believe in adult criminals having their names guarded.

We can't deny the crime that TMD did. How he obtained the identity of a homeless man battling schizophrenia is horrible and unacceptable. However, even in criminal investigations, which this case is not, it's important for investigators to withhold the names of suspects due to the ongoing investigation. So even though this isn't a criminal investigation, most criminal investigations always involve withholding information for the sake of a strong case in court.

While I feel for the family or any family, I simply don't agree it is right.

Again, like my friend said - withholding TMD's name was at the request of his family. They have good reasons to not want their name(s) or his name out there. I don't know how many times this has to be said. Imagine if your family member passed away as a Doe and you found out 16 years after the fact like this gentleman's family did. Lot of emotions, right? Plus, the complex circumstances of his life that make it even more tragic and heartbreaking. I'm sorry you feel that it isn't right but you don't get to decide - TMD's family do.

And if protection is due to something he did for govt. or whatever else that talk is about, he is dead now and so his name being known cannot hurt him.

I thought this had been cleared up but if it hasn't, I'll say it again,

TMD was not a spy working for the American government or the German government. He was a deeply intelligent man but had a bad habit of scamming people, something he was skilled in so much that he was able to stay under the radar. TMD was many things - a secret agent was not one of them.

Yes, this coming September will be 18 years since he passed away and releasing his name may not hurt him, but it would absolutely impact his family. They just aren't ready yet.

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But believe me, and my friend said this earlier - this man's life story suffices well above knowing his identity. A name doesn't tell a story - the story tells a story.
Read this fast and appreciate it but no time right now to respond.

Not sure why it is not a criminal investigation for one. A crime/crimes were committed.

Also quickly, about how many times you have to say sometthing, I made exactly two posts now, so I don't think you've had to say anything to me countless times. So not even sure what you mean by that.

I've already said it was not even directed at you or anyone. And no time right now. I haven't even finished reading your post.

I think I explained myself and my remark.

And believe me I have no investment at all in this case. Never was on my radar. You do clearly, and I have upset you. And so, I am not going to invest in some major back and forth but I also will clarify and stand.

I'm not fully ready and well informed on it but it did not take long to skim the couple of pages either. It isn't a pet case of mine as it is of yours.

Have at it. I don't need it in fact. I gave an opinion and that's all it was. And I can easily pay no attention at all to it and if you'd prefer that, I am happy to do so.

But I stand by my opinion.. Again, haven't read your entire post but if you want me to later I will. If you don't, happy to never look at it again, and not sure why there's no investigative side or criminal look at it.
 
Read this fast and appreciate it but no time right now to respond.

Not sure why it is not a criminal investigation for one. A crime/crimes were committed.

Also quickly, about how many times you have to say sometthing, I made exactly two posts now, so I don't think you've had to say anything to me countless times. So not even sure what you mean by that.

I've already said it was not even directed at you or anyone. And no time right now. I haven't even finished reading your post.

I think I explained myself and my remark.

And believe me I have no investment at all in this case. Never was on my radar. You do clearly, and I have upset you. And so, I am not going to invest in some major back and forth but I also will clarify and stand.

I'm not fully ready and well informed on it but it did not take long to skim the couple of pages either. It isn't a pet case of mine as it is of yours.

Have at it. I don't need it in fact. I gave an opinion and that's all it was. And I can easily pay no attention at all to it and if you'd prefer that, I am happy to do so.
But I stand by my opinion.. Again, haven't read your entire post but if you want me to later I will. If you don't, happy to never look at it again, and not sure why there's no investigative side or criminal look at it.

If you don't, happy to never look at it again, and not sure why there's no investigative side or criminal look at it.

But there is an investigative side to it. When you get the time to read through all the details of this case, you'll understand that there has been investigation. My friend stated that TMD's family have "pushed and supported us in further investigating him in order to better understand his means and motives". You should read the whole thread when you get a chance because you yourself have admitted to not. Highly recommend even if it's not your "pet case". I didn't mean to interrupt your schedule, I apologize.

This isn't even a criminal investigation. And even if it was, he's been deceased for almost 20 years and can't be charged with anything.

I don't want to go back and forth either but sometimes things have to be clarified for the sake of the deceased and their case. Really all I'm trying to do - clarify. Not interrupt any schedules, hurt anyone's feelings, or release sensitive information that could endanger a family.
 
No, Im not angered or angry at all.

Nor do I need instant gratification.

I only skimmed this thread reading some not all. I was not aware you are writing of it or that you would think I meant anything personally directed at you. I diidn't and don't.I

Imo authorities would the ones not giving out a name.

Imo as well, stealing someone's identity is a crime and I don't believe in adult criminals having their names guarded.

While I feel for the family or any family, I simply don't agree it is right.

And if protection is due to something he did for govt. or whatever else that talk is about, he is dead now and so his name being known cannot hurt him.

Again, I did not mean you nor anyone else on here was doing it, I assumed it was authorities or authorities as well for sure.

I am also not scared to disagree with others and say so if I do. I feel no need to always be in agreement, and people aren't always, not just me either.

Keeping a book suspenseful is a lot different that authorities holding back a name.
This isn’t about a book. This isn’t about your gratification. This is about a family who does not want his name out there and it’s their right. If it was your family and you didn’t want their name out there, I would back you up. And I’m going to back up this family.
 

The Laptop Pt. 2 and the .EST file​


The Dell Latitude CSx J650XT was manufactured sometime in the year 2000. The machine was running a dual boot system involving one for Linux and one for Windows. On the bottom of the chassis was a property tag belonging to a now defunct Telecommunication company which had headquarters in San Francisco, California. That company was in the business of creating and modifying apps for mobile delivery. All of our attempts at probing and reaching out to the company and its ex-employees were dead ends.

The laptop hard drives contained a wealth of helpful forensic information, some of it possibly never seen by any of the agencies that tried to access to it. On the drive was a download for hour 2 (listen here) of The Coast-to-Coast radio show from the 02/03/2004 broadcast featuring Dr. Eugene Mallove from the New Energy Foundation discussing Presidential candidates (Bush/Kerry) as well as new and alternative forms of energy. In keeping with the media theme, within the book marks on his Firefox browser was a folder containing links to various American radio stations, free music download websites, an XM Satellite radio programming guide, a link to Coast To Coast AM with George Noory’s website, Glenn Beck’s weekend program affiliate list and a website containing information about MSNBC cancelling Michael Savage’s show “The Savage Nation” over homophobic remarks. Some of the other notable bookmarks included a link for discount airfare, wi-fi hotspots, a trucking company, a link to the Superior Court of California, USA People Search and the history of the Linux mascot Tux. We also discovered 5 photos which we discerned were Birgit and her family celebrating Christmas, several messenger/email aliases and chat logs and “the letter” in the form of an email draft.

For us, the most important and salacious piece of information was a text log file containing references to dozens of .est files. The .est extension is associated with the obsolete software Microsoft Streets & Trips Maps. Those files were a chronological list of 53 places that TMD had searched for and likely visited on a cross country trip of the US from the West to East coast beginning on 07/23/05 and ending on 08/14/06, one month before he passed. We have scrutinized each one of these co-ordinates but the geography has changed a bit in the nearly 20 years since TMD ran those searches. Some of the locations make sense but some do not. We could use help in establishing what and where some of the unknown locations used to be.

Let's start with this entry. On 09/21/05 TMD is in NYC. A day later on 09/22/05 he searches:

Richardson St & Humboldt St, Brooklyn, NY, 11222 to Pudding House Bed and Breakfast

We assume that Richardson & Humboldt is noted because of the proximity to I-278 but we don't know why he was in that particular part of Brooklyn nor do we know what or where the Pudding House is.

After Pudding House also on the same day he runs searches for: “amish and vegas”, “amish and vegas on i-80” and “amish and vegas on i-78”. The I-78 runs from the Holland Tunnel in lower Manhattan west to Harrisburg, PA while the I-80 runs from Teaneck, NJ west to San Francisco, CA.

By 09/27/05 he is in the Midwest.
 
This isn’t about a book. This isn’t about your gratification. This is about a family who does not want his name out there and it’s their right. If it was your family and you didn’t want their name out there, I would back you up. And I’m going to back up this family.
Apparently I never saw this. I saw it now since there is a new post. I have no desire for gratification, it is hardly a pet case of mine as I said.

And rights to privacy in the U.S. pretty much generally cease to exist after death, and the family has even less to zero such rights, only the living individual has such rights.

Not here to argue, just responding to a post I never saw that I respectfully disagree with.

There simply was a new post here recently and I was trying to even recall what this case was about. Not that interested quite honestly.

I don't agree though. I don't believe there is any such legal right. I have looked such up more than once.

I don't care personally about this particular case, but I do care about laws and open records.

Have a good one.
 
Apparently I never saw this. I saw it now since there is a new post. I have no desire for gratification, it is hardly a pet case of mine as I said.

And rights to privacy in the U.S. pretty much generally cease to exist after death, and the family has even less to zero such rights, only the living individual has such rights.

Not here to argue, just responding to a post I never saw that I respectfully disagree with.

There simply was a new post here recently and I was trying to even recall what this case was about. Not that interested quite honestly.

I don't agree though. I don't believe there is any such legal right. I have looked such up more than once.

I don't care personally about this particular case, but I do care about laws and open records.

Have a good one.
If you don’t care, why respond with all the negativity?

I’m not gonna rehash what I told you 5 months ago (wow, time flies, huh?) but there are many examples I have looked up more than once that grant privacy for deceased folks after their death. It’s so common I don’t even find it relevant to share here…but whatever…

(guarding of social security upon death, protection of vital documents, protection while transferring estate to beneficiaries…)
 

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