JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events

• April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
• December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
• February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
• February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
• June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
• July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
• August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
• September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
• September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
• September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
• September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
• October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
• October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
• October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
• October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
• Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
• November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
• November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
• December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
• December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
• December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
• January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
• January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

The latest timeline in the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell cases - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

www.eastidahonews.com

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[Guess Who]

I don't know if you saw the post I did from Idaho law spousal privilege. Exception 1, especially.

This one???? This is exactly why they could be remaining married. This is saying exactly what I was trying to say.

(b) General rule of privilege. A person has a privilege to prevent testimony as to any confidential communication between the person and his or her spouse made during the marriage.

 

[RoundPeg]

This one???? This is exactly why they could be remaining married. This is saying exactly what I was trying to say.

(b) General rule of privilege. A person has a privilege to prevent testimony as to any confidential communication between the person and his or her spouse made during the marriage.

This one:

(d) Exceptions. There is no privilege under this rule:



(1) Child related communications. In a criminal or civil action or proceeding as to a communication relevant to an issue concerning the physical, mental or emotional condition of or injury to a child, or concerning the welfare of a child including, but not limited to the abuse, abandonment or neglect of a child.

 

[Guess Who]

This one:

(d) Exceptions. There is no privilege under this rule:



(1) Child related communications. In a criminal or civil action or proceeding as to a communication relevant to an issue concerning the physical, mental or emotional condition of or injury to a child, or concerning the welfare of a child including, but not limited to the abuse, abandonment or neglect of a child.

Gotcha!

 

[Kimster]

Has he been declared a homicide after all?

No, but I think he was, as do many others.

 

[Kimster]

What about her sister and Charles? Also, Alex dying was pretty convenient too. Plus there was the attempt on BB. Chad seemed to be orchestrating that based on his phone activity. Did they find out whose idea the life insurance thing was? Didn't he get Tammy to increase hers.

Her sister died a natural death. Lori knew Chad when Charles was murdered.

 

[Kimster]

She's waiting to be tried for Charles. I haven't seen anything to make me think her sister was murdered. I'm not sure about Alex. At worst, I could see him committing suicide. I think his brother mentioned some health issues run in their family.

Adam and Rex think Lori had something to do with Alex’s death, but not Stacy’s, (the older sister).

 

[Kimster]

I.R.E. 504. Husband-Wife Privilege. | Supreme Court

isc.idaho.gov

Idaho Rules of Evidence Rule 504. Husband-Wife Privilege.

(a) Definition. A communication is "confidential" if it is made during marriage privately by any person to the person's spouse, and is not intended for disclosure to any other person.



(b) General rule of privilege. A person has a privilege to prevent testimony as to any confidential communication between the person and his or her spouse made during the marriage.



(c) Who may claim the privilege. The privilege may be claimed by the person or by the spouse on behalf of the person, or by the lawyer for the person on behalf of the person. The authority of the spouse or lawyer to do so is presumed in the absence of evidence to the contrary.



(d) Exceptions. There is no privilege under this rule:



(1) Child related communications. In a criminal or civil action or proceeding as to a communication relevant to an issue concerning the physical, mental or emotional condition of or injury to a child, or concerning the welfare of a child including, but not limited to the abuse, abandonment or neglect of a child.



(2) Criminal action. In a criminal action or proceeding in which one spouse is charged with a crime against the person or property of (A) the other spouse, (B) a person residing in the household of either spouse, or (C) a third person committed in the course of committing a crime against the other spouse or a person residing in the household of either spouse.



(3) Special proceeding. In proceedings (A) under the Reciprocal Enforcement of Support Act, or (B) concerning desertion or non-support of a spouse.



(4) Civil action. In a civil action or proceeding by one spouse against the other involving the person or property of the other.



(5) Proceedings for guardianship, conservatorship or hospitalization. There is no privilege under this rule for communications relevant to an issue in proceedings for the appointment of a guardian or conservator for a person for mental illness or to hospitalize the person for mental illness.



(Adopted March 26, 2018, effective July 1, 2018.)

Oh, I didn’t know that. I thought spousal privilege meant always.

 

[GrandmaBear]

This is a MUST WATCH. I have caught up here but not had time to reply and I find it interesting Joe Ryan's death was recently mentioned here and that is what this is about with some bombshell info. This isn't one of my top channels but i watch them enough and they wouldn't lie imo, who knows about the source to them but it just fits and they vetted the source and again a MUST watch. Re Joe Ryan's death, murder or accident and what one Audrey told someone... And then fit back in with her testimony and more to come.

Interested in the take of others here, Kimster, Emu, Tresir, et al. I know Tresir you don't do vids much but I think you need to hear this one, I don't see how news can have it if the source went here... I am not giving an opinion other than to say i'd like all to listen to it first and weigh in. It's worth it...

 

[GrandmaBear]

And only 25 minutes.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Also, the State is moving for clarification of Lori and Chad's communications. You GO prosecutors! Way to go!!

Haven't heard it all yet but here is our doll Nate:

 

[Kimster]

This is a MUST WATCH. I have caught up here but not had time to reply and I find it interesting Joe Ryan's death was recently mentioned here and that is what this is about with some bombshell info. This isn't one of my top channels but i watch them enough and they wouldn't lie imo, who knows about the source to them but it just fits and they vetted the source and again a MUST watch. Re Joe Ryan's death, murder or accident and what one Audrey told someone... And then fit back in with her testimony and more to come.

Interested in the take of others here, Kimster, Emu, Tresir, et al. I know Tresir you don't do vids much but I think you need to hear this one, I don't see how news can have it if the source went here... I am not giving an opinion other than to say i'd like all to listen to it first and weigh in. It's worth it...

I watched it last night. The summary is that a source told this Podcaster, that when it was testified in court that Lori told the witness she had seen someone take their last breath that Lori had said it was Joe Ryan.

(the witness’s name escapes me for the moment. It’ll come back to me.)

ETA: ". Barattiero told the jury Vallow said something about watching a person take their last breath."

 

[Kimster]

Also, the State is moving for clarification of Lori and Chad's communications. You GO prosecutors! Way to go!!

Haven't heard it all yet but here is our doll Nate:

I took this to also mean that they want to talk to each other. Is Chad wanting Lori to be a witness in his case? Wouldn’t that be a strange turn of events.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I watched it last night. The summary is that a source told this Podcaster, that when it was testified in court that Lori told the witness she had seen someone take their last breath that Lori had said it was Joe Ryan.

(the witness’s name escapes me for the moment. It’ll come back to me.)

ETA: ". Barattiero told the jury Vallow said something about watching a person take their last breath."

Yes and then someone HTC vetted that would likely have heard more from Audrey B. said it was Joe with more to come that host can't share right now, only sharing thus far what that person is allowing...Another BIG part was that Lori AND someone else. Who...? Alex? Tylee (hope not), Charles (don't think so don't get me wrong but Charles was her hub and protector during some of this time/claims about Joe. Or was it CHAD?

I know this is before Chad's alleged time with Lori but something has always nagged me in this case from early on and that's that I never felt Lori met Chad when Mel G alleges for the first time. I had reasons for thinking so and can't recall why and all of it but I have NEVER shaken that idea. When something sets in that hard I can always remember my opinion and I KNOW I have real solid reasons for that opinion but can't always recall what they were as time passes. But I never forget my opinion/decision, 90 percent leanings if I get that far, in a case and I always know I had to have a lot of reason for such.

One likely reason is a no brainer. Mel G is a liar and that's where it comes from but it was more than that.

ANYHOW it is alleged Lori said another person was with her/present... Alex would be the prime guess...

 

[GrandmaBear]

I took this to also mean that they want to talk to each other. Is Chad wanting Lori to be a witness in his case? Wouldn’t that be a strange turn of events.

But more than that they are asking if they have had contact and are allowed to since an actual order was never entered that they could not and then the cases were severed and now juriisdiiction has changed. Boyce nixed the requested meeting together with counsel that was requested but he NEVER entered any kind of on contact order and to this day, unknown if they can contact each other or not is the way I take it Or if ever have etc.

Prior said this not long ago that this is not going to be a no defense case as Lori's definitely was. I think this is going to be a huge p*ssing match. All know I don't like or side with most defense attorneys but despite all of the fun that has been made of him, the man is no slouch. His argument against the DP for Chad which has been expected for a long time had very good points and for Chad's case too. State pointed out over and over that Lori was the ringleader and Lori manipulated Chad and Alex...I don't think they will win but it is a heck of an argument. It worked for the state in one case but may works somewhat against in the other.

BUT State is giving it back...

This communicaton thing is interesting... As will be Boyce's answer. Why did he never issue one? Seriously. State also wonders if once cases were severed if one was ever issued... I am not a big Boyce fan. He handled the; trial adequately but he was sure to to prove self and there was NO defense.

It may be a big nothing burger but hard to say... And of course Nate talks about early on when Chad was free and Lori under arrest how of course they could call, he could visit, etc.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I took this to also mean that they want to talk to each other. Is Chad wanting Lori to be a witness in his case? Wouldn’t that be a strange turn of events.

Yeah she will testify and fall on her own sword for Chad. Who really is the ringleader here... I think assuming it is Lori as many do is dismissing Chad's control and games...

Another thing in HTC's is that document where Chad had Audrey B... rated like as a 100 percent trustworthy person, higher than both Mels etc. Imo Chad put Lori and Mel together and both were jealous of the other as both had a thing for Chad. Just something I felt/thought possible... Mel G is another who I think had a thing for Chad... I see Chad as the cult leader... He is not the silent dufus hung up on sex with Lori that he pretends to be... But I see BOTH as doing their BIG part...

 

[GrandmaBear]

Oh and of course the other part is P wanting to change indictment wording to and/or Alex,I etc. From my own experieDnce and knowledge this is allowable as is changing charges, etc.

In this one, defense wants cameras, prosecution does not (huh?) and Boyce has not decided yet. Go figure.

Just finishing watching the rest of Nate's My reason for a few posts.

 

[GrandmaBear]

And then here is Linda. Haven't watched it yet. Most of us I think like her and even though she is never first on news, etc. or on top of all these days, generally watching her gives some nugget or something with her opinion that no one else has thought of.

She just has a way and I give her views as she puts work in and never does a money begging thing, etc. and has had her own trials in the last few years. Trials in life, not court lol.

 

[GrandmaBear]

And trust Linda to bring up the STORM part in Prior's motion lol. I picked up on it, did others? Lori led Chad around by his ahem Storm and he followed Lori....

 

[GrandmaBear]

Because she had a hold of his ahemmm Di--I mean Storm...

 

[GrandmaBear]

Linda is on the ball with this one, she even has the prosecution communication thing of Chad and Lori covered and I only saw it today.

She says mark calendars for 11/29 when Prior will argue no DP and cameras will be discussed, etc.