Tuesday 16th continued. I don't really know why they are going into such detail regarding Charles' murder as that is going to have it's own trial in Az and Chad is not a suspect in that, well not yet anyway.
Live updates continued.
12:02 p.m. Boyce says the hearing will happen at 1:05 p.m. and the jury can be back in the courtroom at 1:30 p.m. Blake will argue for the prosecution, Prior will argue for the defense. Be back in an hour.
12 noon Prior says his intention of calling Wood is to be used as impeachment evidence. Boyce says items can be sealed to preserve the rights of a fair trial and a lot of work went into finding an impartial jury for this case. Boyce says the companion case has already gone through trial and we already have a jury so the hearing this afternoon will not be sealed.
11:58 a.m. Blake argues the motion should be sealed as there are concerns. You can read their filing
here. Prior says the jury has been seated so there shouldn’t be any concerns.
11:56 a.m. Boyce says a motion in liming was filed yesterday by prosecutors. It says John Prior plans to call Rob Wood as a witness and the state is opposed. That hearing will happen after the lunch break. Right now is the hearing to determine whether the hearing after lunch will be sealed and closed to the public.
11:54 a.m. Boyce dismisses jurors for lunch but we will now have a motion hearing before the public goes to lunch.
11:52 a.m. Attorneys are having a sidebar with the judge in chambers.
11:51 a.m. The total price is close to $2,000 with all the fees. Chad says he’s going to call one or two other funeral homes. The call ends.
11:49 a.m. The call continues with the funeral director. Chad says he’s just starting the process of helping the family with the cremation and needs a price. The lady tells him cremations are $1,695 and it includes transportation to the crematory and other fees. She lists out other fees.
11:47 a.m. The lady asks for Chad’s number. He says he doesn’t know and needs to look. The operator asked if he passed away in a nursing home, hospital or residence. Chad says he died in a hospital but doesn’t know the details. The lady asks what city in Louisiana. Chad says New Orleans. The call is then transferred to the director.
11:45 a.m. Blake plays the call. Chad says he just had a death in the family and they don’t want anything but a cremation. He says they want to send the cremains to the family in Louisiana. He asks for a simple cremation and asks the price. The operator asks for the callers name. He says, “Chad Daybell.” DABEL is how he spells his last name. The lady asks how he is related to hte person who died. He says he’s his nephew and lives in Iowa. She asks for the name of the uncle. He says, “John Myron DABEL.”
11:42 a.m. Blake asks if Duncan was contacted about a call made to a mortuary in Arizona. He was. It was the Valley of the Sun Mortuary. Blake asks to admit the phone call made from Chad to the mortuary. You can listen
here.
11:41 a.m. Chad responded to the email saying he would be able to come and to let the wards know. Duncan does not know whether Chad went to Texas.
11:40 a.m. The email came from a kkwalker Yahoo account, which was linked to Lori. The email was sent from the area of Katy, Texas, where Lori was staying at the time.
11:38 a.m. We now see an email sent on April 21, 2019. It is purportedly from Karen at AVOW. The letter is inviting Chad to come and speak at a youth conference in Houston about the temple. The lady says 400 kids will be attending and she wants him to come speak about his book. “Is there any chance you could come? A high councilman is currently the main speaker but he says he would be happy to let you speak in his place.” The letter offers Chad a flight and place to stay.
11:36 a.m. Duncan says he never saw any indication of grief about the loss of Charles in any of the phone messages he observed.
11:33 a.m. Duncan reads messages between Zulema and Lori. Lori messaged Zulema on May 22, 2019 about Hiplos being a level 4. Lori send another message about going to the truck and hovering over it. More messages. Zulema says she was given instructions to “rip, tar or burn the aura of Hiplos to let the body energy out.” Chad sends a message to Zulema saying Mother Earth is grateful for Lori and Zulema. He offers to give Zulema a blessing on July 11 after saying “it’s crazy about Charles but such a relief.”
11:30 a.m. Blake asks Duncan if he reviewed content from Zulema Pastenes’ phone. He did. Zulema was married to Alex. Duncan says the content on her phone was “voluminous.” Blake asks to admit an exhibit showing the content of Zulema’s phone.
11:28 a.m. We now see a text that Alex sent to Lori on Sept. 3, 2019. Alex to Lori: “Network name is anti-laman pw is 2many kids.” Lori to Alex: “Funny!!” The last known sighting of Tylee was around Sept. 8 and the last known sighting of JJ was around Sept. 22.
11:26 a.m. We now see a message from Chad to Lori on July 26, 2019. It’s the Harry Potter text:
11:25 a.m. At the time Charles was killed, Lori believed she was getting insurance money. The next message was sent from Lori to Chad on July 18, 2019. “So I talked to the insurance scompany. He changed it in March. So it was probably Ned before we got rid of him. They can’t tell me to who of course but it’s done. I still get the 4000 a month from SS.” SS stands for Social Security.
11:24 a.m. Chad writes, “It will be interesting if it got changed after he had two bullets in his chest.” As Duncan is reading these messages, Chad Daybell stares up the screen and does not show much of a reaction.
11:22 a.m. We now see text messages between Lori and Chad on July 18, 2019. Lori sent Chad a message saying she got a letter from the insurance company saying she is not the beneficiary. “It’s a spear through my heart. Who do you think he changed it to? Brandon? Or probably Kay?” Chad responds, “Wow. That’s terrible. There is no way to find out?” Lori to Chad: “Nope.” They go back and forth with Chad saying, “I love you. This is terrible but it is probably another step in bringing down the Gadiantons, especially Brandon.”
11:20 a.m. The next slide shows there were messages between Chad and Lori the morning of July 11 – the day of Charles’ death – but there is no content of what the actual texts were. There is a record they occurred but we don’t know what they said. One is sent at 6:12 a.m., another at 7:01 a.m., another at 7:33 a.m. Charles arrived at the home that morning around 7:30 a.m. based on location data on his phone.
11:20 a.m. These messages were sent two days before Charles died. Charles and Adam were planning an intervention based on the disturbing things Lori was doing and saying.
11:17 a.m. We now see a slide showing
Lollytime@iCloud.com. It was created on July 1, 2019. The next slide shows a text from Lori to Alex on July 9, 2019. “So the plot thickens. Call me when u can.” On July 9, 2019, she sends another message to Alex about how he needs her to stay close to him and “they” are planning some kind of intervention. “Thank you for standing by me. It’s al coming to a head this week. I will be like Nephi I am told! And so will you.”
11:15 a.m. The message indicates that Lori was unaware Tammy had passed away, even though she had communicated with Nicole earlier in the day about the death. We now see a text from Nov. 22, 2019 from Lori to Colby Ryan, her son. “I text Ty to send it but I haven’t heard back yet. She will probably just do it before she tells me. Hope you got the Venmo. Ty said she sent it late. I’ll call you when I get a break.” Tylee had been dead for over two months at this point.
11:14 a.m. We now see a message from Melanie Gibb to Lori on the same day saying, “I heard what happened to Chad’s wife. Oh my gosh.” Lori responded, “Hello What?”
11:13 a.m. Duncan reads a message from a lady named Nicole to Lori on Oct. 19, 2019 saying Chad’s wife had died. Lori says, “Oh my gosh! I’m in Hawaii.” The lady asks Lori what happened and Lori says Tammy woke up in the night coughing, threw up, collapsed and passed away.”
11:12 a.m. Duncan says through his investigation, Charles was designated as Garrett and Hiplos. He says the phrase “it’s a new one” refers to a new dark spirit that had entered his body.
11:07 a.m. Boyce says the PowerPoint can be admitted. The presentation shows what was found on the Lori4style account and phone numbers associated with her. The first slide shows messages between Lori and Alex in March 2019 about Ned being gone. Alex messages Lori about getting rid of Ned and Ned still being alive. Lori responds at one point saying “it’s not Ned” and “It’s a new one.”
11:04 a.m. Duncan says he reviewed Lori’s iCloud accounts – lori4style and lollytime. There was a significant amount of information in those accounts. Duncan has an exhibit that caught his attention about what was in her accounts. Blake asks to admit the exhibit.
11:02 a.m. After this text exchange, communication ceased on Charles’ phone. He was shot and killed right after these messages were sent.
11 a.m. There is back and forth between Charles and Lori about the fake letter found on Charles’ phone. The next slide shows messages between Charles and Adam Cox around 7:30 a.m. the day Charles was shot. The messages show they were both concerned as Alex was at Lori’s house.
10:58 a.m. Duncan was not aware of any divorce proceedings between Charles and Lori around this time but there was indication they had separated and were living in different locations. The next slide shows more messages founds on Charles’ devices. These are text messages between Charles and Lori. He tells Lori he’s going to Idaho to meet with Tammy. Lori says Tammy won’t listen to him as she is her friend.
10:56 a.m. The next slide is a message from Charles to Lori on June 3, 2019. He confronts Lori about the affair and says, “There really is something wrong with you. You have to be exposed for what you are,” he says. He tells her lying has become second nature to her and has blamed him for everything.
10:55 a.m. Duncan now reads an email Charles sent to Chad. He confronts Chad about the fake email about Charles wanting to write a book and come visit. “Either you or Lori need to tell me what’s going on or this will be exposed for all to see. Regards, Charles Vallow,” he wrote. Then he adds, “And does your wife know you have several of Lori’s dance videos? She sent them to you at your request in January. Explain how that is in any way appropriate.”
10:54 a.m. Duncan reads another email. The subject says “Your husband and my wife…” and then the body says, “are having an affair. I have definite proof. If you care to see it, contact me.” Duncan was not able to determine whether Tammy ever saw the emails.
10:52 a.m. Duncan says there is no evidence Charles tried to visit Tammy in person. We now see an email Charles sent Tammy’s work email on June 29, 2019. Charles says he has some “vital and disturbing” information about her husband and his wife. “I apologize to be the one sending this but something has to be done. I feel it’s best if I shed some light on this issue,” he wrote.
10:50 a.m. Blake asks Duncan if he learned Charles tried to make contact with Tammy. He says Charles did send emails to Tammy but there is no indication she looked at the emails or received them. We now see more messages from Charles to Lori. He tells Lori he has emailed Tammy and “their game is up.” He later texts, “Please stop spending money on the credit cards. I appreciate it.”
10:49 a.m. Charles tells Lori in another text that he has Tammy Daybell’s email address and he will email her. He tells Lori “he better explain.” Charles sends another text saying he has Tammy’s cell and Lori has until noon to explain or he will email and text Tammy.
10:47 a.m. Blake asks Duncan if Lori had brothers named Alex and Adam. Duncan says she did. He says Adam was never a suspect in this investigation but Alex was. The next slide shows messages between Charles and Lori. Charles confronts Lori about the affair in the texts and calls Lori evil.
10:46 a.m. Blake asks Duncan if he was aware of other investigations as he was working on Charles’ case. He says he was aware of Tammy’s death, the attempted shooting of Brandon Boudreaux and the missing kids.
10:45 a.m. Duncan says this was a document that Charles said he found on Lori’s computer. This was the first letter where he suspected Lori was having an affair with Chad. “All indications in Charles’ phone is this letter was fictitious and not created by him,” Duncan says.
10:44 a.m. The email says Charles will pay Chad well to be his ghostwriter. He asked Chad to come visit him for a few days to talk about the book project and the publishing business.