AHMAUD ARBERY: Georgia vs Greg & Travis McMichael & William Bryan for murder *GUILTY*

Mother seeks justice after son shot while jogging in Brunswick, pair involved in killing not arrested

It’s been over two months since a young black man jogging in Brunswick, Ga., was gunned down by two white men...

www.jacksonville.com

Mother seeks justice after son shot while jogging in Brunswick, pair involved in killing not arrested

It’s been over two months since a young black man jogging in Brunswick, Ga., was gunned down by two white men who said they thought he was a possible burglar.

Ahmaud Arbery’s mother wants to know where is the justice.

“I just think about how they could allow these two men to kill my son and not be arrested, that’s what I can’t understand,” Wanda Cooper told news partner First Coast News.

A police report states about 1 p.m. Sunday, Feb. 23, Glynn County officers responded to Satilla and Holmes drives where shots were fired. They found Arbery, 25, dead on the scene.

Gregory McMichael, who worked several years for the Brunswick Police Department before serving as an investigator in the Brunswick District Attorney’s Office, told police there were several break-ins in the neighborhood. He said he saw Arbery running down Satilla Drive and asked his son Travis McMichael to help him confront him.

McMichael and his son got a shotgun and handgun because they “didn’t know if Arbery was armed or not.”

The father and son got into their truck and drove down Satilla toward Burford Drive. Gregory McMichael stated when they arrived at Holmes Drive, they saw Arbery running down Burford, according to the report.

Gregory McMichael told police they attempted to cut off Arbery and shouted “stop, stop, we want to talk to you.”

McMichael pulled up next to Arbery, and Travis McMichael got out of the truck with the shotgun. According to statements, that’s when the father said Arbery attacked his son and the two men started fighting over the shotgun. Travis McMichael fired a shot and then a second shot.

After video appears to show black jogger gunned down by 2 white men in coastal Georgia, family demands arrests

The fatal shooting of a black man — apparently recorded on video in February and posted online Tuesday by a local radio station host — will go to a grand jury in coastal Georg…

ktla.com

After video appears to show black jogger gunned down by 2 white men in coastal Georgia, family demands arrests

The fatal shooting of a black man — apparently recorded on video in February and posted online Tuesday by a local radio station host — will go to a grand jury in coastal Georgia, according to a district attorney.

Elements of the disturbing video are consistent with a description of the shooting given to police by one of those involved in the incident.

Ahmaud Arbery, 25, was jogging in a neighborhood outside Brunswick on February 23 when a former police officer and his son chased him down, authorities said. According to a Glynn County Police report, Gregory McMichael later told officers that he thought Arbery looked like a person suspected in a series of recent break-ins in the area.

After they chased down Arbery, McMichael told police, Arbery and McMichael’s son Travis struggled over his son’s shotgun. McMichael said two shots were fired before Arbery fell to the street, the report said.


S. Lee Merritt, an attorney for the Arbery family, said in a statement that the two men involved in the chase “must be taken into custody pending their indictment.”

Gov. Brian Kemp said the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has offered resources to Durden for his investigation. “Georgians deserve answers,” Kemp tweeted.

Kemp also retweeted the GBI’s post that Durden “formally requested the GBI to investigate the death of Ahmaud Arbery.”

 

[kdg411]

 

[daisy7]

He should have left the young back man part out. He could have simply said a young man in reference to LE coming to watch the trial. Blatant racism again.

 

[GrandmaBear]

This kind of thing should be put out there and addressed and discussed the rules are not fair in all directions. While I like most feel these men are guilty and her son is a victim, the politics in these cases and presence of people like this can sway or influence a jury. We had a baby intentionally in and out for jurors to see and of course the man was accused of killing his other baby... It was a CLEAR attempt to make him look like a new dad/good daddy (GAG). The child was USED as a prop. Sorry, anyhow, there are all sorts of ways one side can attempt to influence just by presence in the courtroom, etc. Yet we weren't allowed to even wear a picture of the victim on a button... Nor did the jury ever see a smiling picture of the victim alive, just autopsy photos.

Of course because of the way our world now is, rules only seem to work one way whether it is for defendants' rights (most trials) or in this case, the race card used against the white defendants, and special interest groups and fame seekers sitting with the victim's mother, etc. His likening it to a police officer being present the other way around is a GREAT point, it should either be allowed in all cases or NOT AT ALL.

These special interest groups and that's what they are imo and more have absolutely nothing to do with the FACTS of a particular case and incident, and sure don't help a just process. Again imo. This is not the federal trial nor a hate crime trial as the law didn't exist there if I recall.

But on the other hand, trials are public and anyone can attend generally so making anyone stay out is another thing I guess.... However, depending on behavior and purpose, people can be banned from the courtroom I think...

 

[Guess Who]

This kind of thing should be put out there and addressed and discussed the rules are not fair in all directions. While I like most feel these men are guilty and her son is a victim, the politics in these cases and presence of people like this can sway or influence a jury. We had a baby intentionally in and out for jurors to see and of course the man was accused of killing his other baby... It was a CLEAR attempt to make him look like a new dad/good daddy (GAG). The child was USED as a prop. Sorry, anyhow, there are all sorts of ways one side can attempt to influence just by presence in the courtroom, etc. Yet we weren't allowed to even wear a picture of the victim on a button... Nor did the jury ever see a smiling picture of the victim alive, just autopsy photos.

Of course because of the way our world now is, rules only seem to work one way whether it is for defendants' rights (most trials) or in this case, the race card used against the white defendants, and special interest groups and fame seekers sitting with the victim's mother, etc. His likening it to a police officer being present the other way around is a GREAT point, it should either be allowed in all cases or NOT AT ALL.

These special interest groups and that's what they are imo and more have absolutely nothing to do with the FACTS of a particular case and incident, and sure don't help a just process. Again imo. This is not the federal trial nor a hate crime trial as the law didn't exist there if I recall.

But on the other hand, trials are public and anyone can attend generally so making anyone stay out is another thing I guess.... However, depending on behavior and purpose, people can be banned from the courtroom I think...

and with masking, how many people on the jury would have recognized him to start with? Now, thanks to him bringing it to light, they all know.

 

[kdg411]

 

[kdg411]

Judge Walmsley did check Defense Attorney Kevin Gough when he stated that the media is reacting to "his" words in court ie. Colonel Sanders.

As far as testimony today, we will continue to hear from the GBI fiber analyst after the lunch recess.

*edited to correct the next witness is Jesse Worley GBI latent fingerprint analyst

 

[GrandmaBear]

and with masking, how many people on the jury would have recognized him to start with? Now, thanks to him bringing it to light, they all know.

Yes, this stuff needs to end. Lobbyists shouldn't be in the hallways of the gov. buildings and special interest groups shouldn't be in courtrooms, etc. and while politics and laws and judges, police, district attorneys, governors, courtrooms have always been intertwined on some level and our judicial branch is part of our government, this other stuff going on politically and the groups have gone so far beyond, it is affecting individual crime and justice. I don't have the words but trust all know what I mean.

And why wouldn't jurors be scared to serve or feel scared enough to have to pick a certain verdict??

I have to say I think the Chauvin trial was handled way better than this, the actual courtroom trial itself I mean. Maybe it was more prepared for, I don't know. Maybe it is because one was in the north and one in the heart of the south...

And while I don't want to come down on the victim's mother, it is not a good look either for a judge or prosecutor to come down on the family and who she has present, so maybe if she said she didn't want him there, it would be different but she apparently hasn't... It's very unfair to the other side and you know I am no fan of the defendants and think what they did horrendous and that they are guilty, but it doesn't mean this should go on either. This isn't a fair trial if jurors are worried about people and groups and their reaction to whatever verdict...

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Yes, this stuff needs to end. Lobbyists shouldn't be in the hallways of the gov. buildings and special interest groups shouldn't be in courtrooms, etc. and while politics and laws and judges, police, district attorneys, governors, courtrooms have always been intertwined on some level and our judicial branch is part of our government, this other stuff going on politically and the groups have gone so far beyond, it is affecting individual crime and justice. I don't have the words but trust all know what I mean.

And why wouldn't jurors be scared to serve or feel scared enough to have to pick a certain verdict??

I have to say I think the Chauvin trial was handled way better than this, the actual courtroom trial itself I mean. Maybe it was more prepared for, I don't know. Maybe it is because one was in the north and one in the heart of the south...

And while I don't want to come down on the victim's mother, it is not a good look either for a judge or prosecutor to come down on the family and who she has present, so maybe if she said she didn't want him there, it would be different but she apparently hasn't... It's very unfair to the other side and you know I am no fan of the defendants and think what they did horrendous and that they are guilty, but it doesn't mean this should go on either. This isn't a fair trial if jurors are worried about people and groups and their reaction to whatever verdict...

I think jurors are frightened of both sides.

 

[kdg411]

GBI Agent Lawrence Kelly is now testifying about the video taken by defendant Bryan. The video with audio was played in different formats 5 times for the jury.

*(Wanda Cooper-Jones, Ahmaud's Mother, was advised by the State prior to this testimony & left the courtroom during the playing of evidence. IMO the audio with the video was extremely difficult due to the 3 distinct shotgun firings.)

 

[GrandmaBear]

I think jurors are frightened of both sides.

Probably so especially since all are local... I imagine there are a few witnesses not entirely happy a the spot they are in either... Considering this incident was not handled as it should have been at the time nor after...

 

[Guess Who]

GBI Agent Lawrence Kelly is now testifying about the video taken by defendant Bryan. The video with audio was played in different formats 5 times for the jury.

*(Wanda Cooper-Jones, Ahmaud's Mother, was advised by the State prior to this testimony & left the courtroom during the playing of evidence. IMO the audio with the video was extremely difficult due to the 3 distinct shotgun firings.)

3 shots from a shotgun is definitely not "just" self defense. I'm sure glad these numbskulls thought it was a good idea to tape all this.

MOST shotguns are either pump action or single shot...it takes time between shots. I haven't thought about this before and if they had semi-auto shotgun or not. Does anybody know the description of it?

 

[GrandmaBear]

3 shots from a shotgun is definitely not "just" self defense. I'm sure glad these numbskulls thought it was a good idea to tape all this.

MOST shotguns are either pump action or single shot...it takes time between shots. I haven't thought about this before and if they had semi-auto shotgun or not. Does anybody know the description of it?

I have always had the impression it was a typical shotgun (I mean a big deal as to the "type" of gun hasn't been made an issue of much in this case--type of gun--as it has been in Rittenhouse). I did a quick Google and for some reason, not a lot of detail on the gun in the case, however, I did see one article said it was a Remington. I don't have much time right now but if I get a chance, will look further.

It almost seems odd there isn't much info on it at first glance... Shotgun laying on a lawn, two spent shells seen on a driveway and a fresh bullet hole in a window of a nearby house was in testimony since the trial.

I haven't read each and every article and also have had no time to follow the case much now that it's in trial. I can't remember back when if we ever discussed it...?

 

[Guess Who]

I have always had the impression it was a typical shotgun (I mean a big deal as to the "type" of gun hasn't been made an issue of much in this case--type of gun--as it has been in Rittenhouse). I did a quick Google and for some reason, not a lot of detail on the gun in the case, however, I did see one article said it was a Remington. I don't have much time right now but if I get a chance, will look further.

It almost seems odd there isn't much info on it at first glance... Shotgun laying on a lawn, two spent shells seen on a driveway and a fresh bullet hole in a window of a nearby house was in testimony since the trial.

I haven't read each and every article and also have had no time to follow the case much now that it's in trial. I can't remember back when if we ever discussed it...?

i don't think we have discussed it, but this is very important to their claim of self defense if it was a semi auto or not. I would think we would have heard more about it if it was a semi-auto and not the typical single shot. Three separate shots that takes time and intention to pull repeatedly. I've never thought about it since I wasn't aware of multiple shots being fired.

 

[kdg411]

i don't think we have discussed it, but this is very important to their claim of self defense if it was a semi auto or not. I would think we would have heard more about it if it was a semi-auto and not the typical single shot. Three separate shots that takes time and intention to pull repeatedly. I've never thought about it since I wasn't aware of multiple shots being fired.

It was not a semi automatic per GBI's ballistics testimony & demonstration today. It was a pump 12 gauge shotgun. hth

 

[kdg411]

State will call the ME tomorrow. The jury is now in recess until 9am Eastern tomorrow.

 

[GrandmaBear]

i don't think we have discussed it, but this is very important to their claim of self defense if it was a semi auto or not. I would think we would have heard more about it if it was a semi-auto and not the typical single shot. Three separate shots that takes time and intention to pull repeatedly. I've never thought about it since I wasn't aware of multiple shots being fired.

It seems like we discussed or I may have said he made a conscious choice again and again too with each shot. I think that in all cases as far as "intention" etc. Like when Alex in Vallow had time to go get his gun down a hallway and come back and shoot Charles. So I think it is some type of typical shotgun in this case if I recall...

 

[kdg411]

If you choose to watch the trial today, the video recording with audio is very distict with each of the 3 shots however per ballistics, Ahmaud was only shot twice. One shot was under his arm and a second was in his abdomen. However 3 shots were heard so anyone who can (did) listen to the testimony please correct me if I am mistaken.

 

[Guess Who]

It was not a semi automatic per GBI's ballistics testimony & demonstration today. It was a pump 12 gauge shotgun. hth

that helps tremendously! Pump action takes even more time between shots.

 

[kdg411]

 

[kdg411]