AHMAUD ARBERY: Georgia vs Greg & Travis McMichael & William Bryan for murder *GUILTY*

Mother seeks justice after son shot while jogging in Brunswick, pair involved in killing not arrested

It’s been over two months since a young black man jogging in Brunswick, Ga., was gunned down by two white men...

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Mother seeks justice after son shot while jogging in Brunswick, pair involved in killing not arrested

It’s been over two months since a young black man jogging in Brunswick, Ga., was gunned down by two white men who said they thought he was a possible burglar.

Ahmaud Arbery’s mother wants to know where is the justice.

“I just think about how they could allow these two men to kill my son and not be arrested, that’s what I can’t understand,” Wanda Cooper told news partner First Coast News.

A police report states about 1 p.m. Sunday, Feb. 23, Glynn County officers responded to Satilla and Holmes drives where shots were fired. They found Arbery, 25, dead on the scene.

Gregory McMichael, who worked several years for the Brunswick Police Department before serving as an investigator in the Brunswick District Attorney’s Office, told police there were several break-ins in the neighborhood. He said he saw Arbery running down Satilla Drive and asked his son Travis McMichael to help him confront him.

McMichael and his son got a shotgun and handgun because they “didn’t know if Arbery was armed or not.”

The father and son got into their truck and drove down Satilla toward Burford Drive. Gregory McMichael stated when they arrived at Holmes Drive, they saw Arbery running down Burford, according to the report.

Gregory McMichael told police they attempted to cut off Arbery and shouted “stop, stop, we want to talk to you.”

McMichael pulled up next to Arbery, and Travis McMichael got out of the truck with the shotgun. According to statements, that’s when the father said Arbery attacked his son and the two men started fighting over the shotgun. Travis McMichael fired a shot and then a second shot.

After video appears to show black jogger gunned down by 2 white men in coastal Georgia, family demands arrests

The fatal shooting of a black man — apparently recorded on video in February and posted online Tuesday by a local radio station host — will go to a grand jury in coastal Georg…

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After video appears to show black jogger gunned down by 2 white men in coastal Georgia, family demands arrests

The fatal shooting of a black man — apparently recorded on video in February and posted online Tuesday by a local radio station host — will go to a grand jury in coastal Georgia, according to a district attorney.

Elements of the disturbing video are consistent with a description of the shooting given to police by one of those involved in the incident.

Ahmaud Arbery, 25, was jogging in a neighborhood outside Brunswick on February 23 when a former police officer and his son chased him down, authorities said. According to a Glynn County Police report, Gregory McMichael later told officers that he thought Arbery looked like a person suspected in a series of recent break-ins in the area.

After they chased down Arbery, McMichael told police, Arbery and McMichael’s son Travis struggled over his son’s shotgun. McMichael said two shots were fired before Arbery fell to the street, the report said.


S. Lee Merritt, an attorney for the Arbery family, said in a statement that the two men involved in the chase “must be taken into custody pending their indictment.”

Gov. Brian Kemp said the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has offered resources to Durden for his investigation. “Georgians deserve answers,” Kemp tweeted.

Kemp also retweeted the GBI’s post that Durden “formally requested the GBI to investigate the death of Ahmaud Arbery.”

 

[Cousin Dupree]

It sounds like they are having a disagreement over whether or not the McMichaels can be considered responsible for starting it and therefore aren't entitled to "self defense" under the law. The 911 call has Gary screaming at Ahmaud and the videos show if Ahmaud grabbed the gun and Travis had no choice, but to shoot him.

Hey, as I was writing this Cannon Kearney (an attorney) is on Court TV pretty much saying the same thing I just wrote.

 

[daisy7]

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Lawrence Zimmerman (A defense attorney) is on Court TV saying this looks good for the defense.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Interesting.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The videos with the most views are the short ones, under an hour. The most popular long one is the states final closing. It has 99 views.

If the jury comes back with a verdict today I'd be willing to bet that it's not guilty on all charges for all of them.

I'd bet the opposite, guilty. I'm truly not sure why you think this? To me, the guilt in this case is pretty clear and I think it is to most? Quick verdicts also are usually guilty, not always but more so. The longer jurors go the more hope defendants generally have that there is a hold out or a lack of agreement, etc.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

I'd bet the opposite, guilty. I'm truly not sure why you think this? To me, the guilt in this case is pretty clear and I think it is to most? Quick verdicts also are usually guilty, not always but more so. The longer jurors go the more hope defendants generally have that there is a hold out or a lack of agreement, etc.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Guess Who]

I'd bet the opposite, guilty. I'm truly not sure why you think this? To me, the guilt in this case is pretty clear and I think it is to most? Quick verdicts also are usually guilty, not always but more so. The longer jurors go the more hope defendants generally have that there is a hold out or a lack of agreement, etc.

quick verdicts usually mean that one side definitely represented their case, no matter which way it goes. I see it go both ways.

 

[Kimster]

Like the Rittenhouse case, I haven’t been watching this closely. I thought this case was a slam dunk! Does anyone here think that self-defense was involved?

 

[GrandmaBear]

quick verdicts usually mean that one side definitely represented their case, no matter which way it goes. I see it go both ways.

I am going to disagree to a point respectfully. Not that it can't go the other way. Acquittals are rare for one and states don't generally bring cases unless they feel there is enough evidence to convict so the State generally has the stronger case imo. Maybe in minor cases like a theft or DUI perhaps acquittal is more common with a lack of a case or evidence but acquitting on murder is not common which is why OJ and Anthony are bandied about so often. The longer a jury is out, particularly if past three or four days I would say in general, the more likely a hold out or disagreement amongst the jury and/or a verdict not reached so even then, it is rarely an acquittal.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Like the Rittenhouse case, I haven’t been watching this closely. I thought this case was a slam dunk! Does anyone here think that self-defense was involved?

I don't but I wouldn't doubt Rittenhouse played in here with his recent acquittal and the Wisconsin law. The defendants here were not defending themselves and it was not Wisconsin law.

In fact in this case it angers me they say this as if anyone was attempting to defend themselves or save themselves it was Arbery.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Like the Rittenhouse case, I haven’t been watching this closely. I thought this case was a slam dunk! Does anyone here think that self-defense was involved?

Just my opinion but this case is a slam dunk I think. They haven't even deliberated a full day yet, not even close.

 

[Kimster]

I don't but I wouldn't doubt Rittenhouse played in here with his recent acquittal and the Wisconsin law. The defendants here were not defending themselves and it was not Wisconsin law.

In fact in this case it angers me they say this as if anyone was attempting to defend themselves or save themselves it was Arbery.

That’s what I was thinking. I mean they admitted following him, right? And thinking that Ahmed was up to no good? That’s a lot different than somebody jumping you on the street.

Maybe the jury is taking their time just so that the world can see that they did take their time and took everything into consideration.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Like the Rittenhouse case, I haven’t been watching this closely. I thought this case was a slam dunk! Does anyone here think that self-defense was involved?

It sure seems like most people think they're guilty. However, the George Zimmerman case was a similar thing, IMO.

 

[Kimster]

It sure seems like most people think they're guilty. However, the George Zimmerman case was a similar thing, IMO.

Ugh. I do believe Zimmerman should’ve been charged with some thing. Even if it was just manslaughter.

 

[Guess Who]

Ugh. I do believe Zimmerman should’ve been charged with some thing. Even if it was just manslaughter.

and I hope that is what they are deliberating now is working out the degree of guilt they feel each one has.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

and I hope that is what they are deliberating now is working out the degree of guilt they feel each one has.

 

[Imamazed]

Like the Rittenhouse case, I haven’t been watching this closely. I thought this case was a slam dunk! Does anyone here think that self-defense was involved?

I didn't follow the case in the media I have been watching it every day since the trial started. No, I don't think it was self defense, nor do I think they were making a citizens arrest. My goodness the whole video reminds me of the 50's and 60's. The defendants put me in mind of the same mind set.

I hope the jury does the right thing and finds them guilty.

Ima

 

[GrandmaBear]

That’s what I was thinking. I mean they admitted following him, right? And thinking that Ahmed was up to no good? That’s a lot different than somebody jumping you on the street.

Maybe the jury is taking their time just so that the world can see that they did take their time and took everything into consideration.

That's what I think. I think they are making sure what they think is true or clarifying some things by watching the videos to be extra 100 percent sure or show another juror and discuss a point which means a very good thing, that they are taking this seriously imo.

I watched Scott Reisch for a bit last night live and he said in all his cases and ever in fact, he has never seen a jury convict or acquit because of race and he also says jurors take their job generally very seriously. My opinion is the same as his. And imo in this case, jurors are going to take it even MORE seriously.

 

[GrandmaBear]

It sure seems like most people think they're guilty. However, the George Zimmerman case was a similar thing, IMO.

There's three men here and vehicles, two with weapons drawn. And other differences.

You are extremely nervous about this case aren't you? I'm not saying we can know what they will decide but I have faith there will be guilty verdicts. On all counts or for all three I am less sure of but my guess is all will be found guilty and if anyone is gone lighter on it will be Roddie although I wouldn't agree with that decision.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Like the Rittenhouse case, I haven’t been watching this closely. I thought this case was a slam dunk! Does anyone here think that self-defense was involved?

@Kimster This is three hours. You really just mostly need to listen to it. If you're home alone tomorrow you can watch/listen to it. I think it sums things up very well.