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Guess Who
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hopefully we will get some more info on the identification
3010UMNY - Unidentified Male
Identified...Identified...Identified
Reconstructions of the decedent by NCMEC and the University of South Florida; enhanced images of the clothing he wore and the footlocker containing his body.
Date of Discovery: March 9, 1976
Location of Discovery: Greece, Monroe County, New York
Estimated Date of Death: 1974-1975
State of Remains: Skeletal
Cause of Death: Undetermined
Physical Description
Estimated Age: 3-5 years old
Race: Unknown
Sex: Male
Height: Unknown
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Light brown to black, straight and fine. Eyelash color was black.
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: The child had a skull abnormality to the back left region of his head, due to an unknown cause. It likely occurred a significant amount of time before death and may have caused or been associated with other health problems that affected his nutrition and growth, which is suspected to be due to neglection. The child likely could not walk and may have had developmental deficiencies. Cranial surgery had been performed well before the child's death.
Identifiers
Dentals: Available.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Available
Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Light blue pajama top with a deer design on the left chest area and a plastic diaper secured by two stainless steel diaper pins.
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: White or yellow blanket, Khaki-colored "Sears Super Tarp" (water and mildew repellant) 5' x 7' Blue storage trunk/foot locker
Circumstances of Discovery
The child's skeletal remains were discovered in a blue footlocker in the basement of an apartment complex in Greece, Monroe County, New York. At the time and during the years following his discovery, the child was presumed to have been a female at the approximate age of 20 months to two years old. Forty tenants were questioned, which revealed no promising leads.
In 2017, the child was re-examined, following an exhumation, and found to actually be a boy after advanced DNA, pollen and isotope tests took place.
The isotope and pollen tests revealed that the child had likely lived in the Northwestern part of the United States for the first few years of his life and later likely relocated to the Southeastern part for the last part of his life. It is unknown if the child was alive at the time he arrived to New York.
The clothing and other items related to the case proved less-successful when searching for clues, as they were common at the time they were sold.
The cause of the boy's death could not be determined, although his bones showed signs of severe malnutrition, indicating he may have been neglected when alive.
Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Monroe County Medical Examiner's Office
Agency Contact Person: Robert Zerby
Agency Phone Number: 585-753-5914
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 76-00091 (91-76)
Agency Name: Greece Police Department
Agency Contact Person: Sgt. David Mancuso
Agency Phone Number: 585-953-1596
Agency E-Mail: dmancuso(at)greeceny.gov
Agency Case Number: 606982
NCIC Case Number: Not entered
NamUs Case Number: 13643
NCMEC Case Number: 1245432
Information Source(s)
NamUs
NCMEC
University of South Florida
NCMEC Now
USA Today
KPIC 4
Forensic Magazine
Admin Notes
Added: 10/18/17; Last Updated: 11/2/18
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** Listed information may be estimated.
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Mel70
I miss you Oreo.
I remember this case. He would be around my age now. I couldn't understand how no one missed this child. I never understand that. Some more than others.
Depending on which company did the DNA, they may not be able to press charges, even if they know who she is (if she's still alive).
That's why DNA Doe Project doesn't take on cases of children. Their info cannot be used for criminal cases, and identifying a child also usually identifies a suspect. And any of that info learned from DDP could not be used in a criminal case or to file criminal charges. They can work to identify the VICTIMS of a crime, but not to identify the SUSPECTS of a crime.
Obviously it has happened (Golden State Killer). However, it's a very sticky area legally and they probably have to meet additional requirements to use that as an option.
Guess Who
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that's why I want more info on this one
Guess Who
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At least by identifying him, family and friends can piece what happened to him together and might have stories of their own that charges could be filed on
Mel70
I miss you Oreo.
I didn't know that about Doe and I ran across them around 20 yrs ago.
DNA Doe Project. They've only been around since 2017. DNA Doe Project
Not Doe Network. Doe Network: International Center For Missing and Unidentified Persons
Mel70
I miss you Oreo.
Oh O.K. I looked at the missing cases.
The Coffeenator
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Millard County Jane Doe from 1979 has been identified as Sandra Louise Matott.
"The Salt Lake City Police Department has announced the closure of a missing persons cold case after DNA testing confirmed human remains located in Millard County belonged to Sandra Matott, who disappeared in July of 1979.
To date, this is the oldest missing persons cold case closed by the Salt Lake City Police Department, said a news release."
SLCPD announces closure of 1979 missing persons cold case | Gephardt Daily
Sandra Matott's thread as a Jane Doe:
www.crimewatchers.net
"The Salt Lake City Police Department has announced the closure of a missing persons cold case after DNA testing confirmed human remains located in Millard County belonged to Sandra Matott, who disappeared in July of 1979.
To date, this is the oldest missing persons cold case closed by the Salt Lake City Police Department, said a news release."
SLCPD announces closure of 1979 missing persons cold case | Gephardt Daily
Sandra Matott's thread as a Jane Doe:
UT - MILLARD COUNTY JANE DOE: WF, 18-40, found in shallow grave under juniper tree near Cove Fort, UT - 19 Aug 1979 *SANDRA MATOTT*
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Female White / Caucasian Date Body Found: August 19, 1979 Location Found: Rural, Utah Estimated Age Range: -- Case Numbers NCMEC Number: -- ME/C Case Number: 197900752 Demographics Sex: Female Race / Ethnicity: White / Caucasian...
www.crimewatchers.net
We did not have a thread for Dennis.
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Here’s a snip of the article you linked. Tips can lead to resolve even decades later!We did not have a thread for Dennis.
Identified: Their names were Kimberly and Dennis
Kimberly Jones was missing for five years. Dennis Etheridge vanished 42 years ago. Some...Indentified: Their names were Kimberly and Dennis
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Detectives in Polk County make arrest in 25-year-old murder case
Kathy Thomas' remains were found in 1996, but she was not identified until 2019.
www.kgw.com
Det. Williams said the investigation started in September 1996 when a father and son out bird hunting stumbled across a woman's remains wrapped up in a tarp in the hills above the Mill Creek area in rural Polk County.
Crime show host Yolanda McClary, a retired Las Vegas Metro Police Department investigator, offered to produce a special documentary on the case. The show, which aired on the Oxygen network, followed McClary and genealogists as they used a DNA profile developed from the remains to come up with a positive ID: Kathy Thomas.
Authorities said the killer is Brian Clifton, the man Kathy married after losing her children in Oklahoma and moving back to Oregon. Investigators believe Clifton took Kathy's life to be with another woman. Clifton was indicted and arrested in August 2021.
So glad the killer was arrested! I’d love to see this episode on Oxygen.Detectives in Polk County make arrest in 25-year-old murder case
Kathy Thomas' remains were found in 1996, but she was not identified until 2019.
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Det. Williams said the investigation started in September 1996 when a father and son out bird hunting stumbled across a woman's remains wrapped up in a tarp in the hills above the Mill Creek area in rural Polk County.
Crime show host Yolanda McClary, a retired Las Vegas Metro Police Department investigator, offered to produce a special documentary on the case. The show, which aired on the Oxygen network, followed McClary and genealogists as they used a DNA profile developed from the remains to come up with a positive ID: Kathy Thomas.
Authorities said the killer is Brian Clifton, the man Kathy married after losing her children in Oklahoma and moving back to Oregon. Investigators believe Clifton took Kathy's life to be with another woman. Clifton was indicted and arrested in August 2021.
He had killed someone else in robbery and he got less than 10 years in prison. If he would’ve gotten more time, which I think he deserved, Kathy might still be alive today.
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I don't understand the sentencing with some murders, unfortunately some get out and do it again.
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