Breonna Taylor, Louisville EMT, killed in botched police raid

Attorneys claim LMPD officers killed 26-year-old EMT in 'botched' police raid

"Had Breonna Taylor been killed by anyone except police, the person or persons responsible for her death would have been charged with a homicide," defense attorney Rob Eggert said in

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Attorneys claim LMPD officers killed 26-year-old EMT in 'botched' police raid



But an attorney for Kenneth Walker claims police conducted an improper raid, which led to officers shooting an innocent woman eight times, killing her. The woman, 26-year-old Breonna Taylor, was a certified EMT working at two local hospitals.

Defense attorney Rob Eggert said police burst in Taylor's home without announcing their presence and fired at least 22 times, with bullets going into neighboring apartments, and “it was incredible that Mrs. Taylor was the only one killed.”

“Had Breonna Taylor been killed by anyone except police, the person or persons responsible for her death would have been charged with a homicide,” Eggert said in a court document, also alleging Walker is a “victim of police misconduct.”

Taylor’s family says neither Walker nor Taylor was involved in drugs and believe police were looking for someone else.

“These are two good kids,” said Bianca Austin, Taylor’s aunt. “This is incompetent police work. My niece lost her life over this.”

Austin said LMPD has not given the family any answers as to what happened.

An attorney representing the family, Sam Aguiar, said police were actually looking for someone else and other officers had picked the suspect up at his home in a separate raid shortly before the shooting.

Breonna Taylor: Louisville EMT Killed in Botched Police Raid, Lawyer Says

Breonna Taylor, a 26-year-old emergency medical technician (EMT), was shot and killed by Louisville Metro Police officers on March 13 during a raid on her home with boyfriend Kenneth Walker.

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Breonna Taylor: Louisville EMT Killed in Botched Police Raid, Lawyer Says

Breonna Taylor was a 26-year-old emergency medical technician (EMT) who was shot and killed by Louisville Metro Police on March 13 during a late-night raid on her home where her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, was also sleeping.

Walker, who was arrested and charged with attempted homicide on accusations he shot one of the police officers during the raid, is being defended by attorney Rob Eggert. Eggert told local news station WDBR that Walker was acting in self-defense and said Taylor’s death was the result of “police misconduct.”

Walker has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

1. Taylor, Who Also Worked for Two Hospitals, Wrote That She Loved Helping Others

On her Facebook page, Taylor described her love for helping others. “Working in health care is so rewarding! It makes me so happy when I know I’ve made a difference in someone else’s life!” she said.

2. Taylor Was Shot Shortly After She Was Awakened by the Raid

According to reports from the local WDRB TV station, officers from the Louisville Metro Police Department’s Criminal Interdiction Division used a battering ram to break down the door and rushed into the house on Springfield Drive at 1 a.m., waking Taylor and her boyfriend, Walker. Walker shot at the officers, wounding one, and the three who entered fired some 22 shots back, according to Eggert, Walker’s defense attorney; Taylor was shot eight times and died.

According to Walker’s lawyer, Walker shot back in self-defense because he said police did not announce themselves. His lawyer wrote to the court that Walker “wishes to exonerate himself. His girlfriend was killed in a hail of police bullets while naked and he himself simply acted to try to protect himself.”

3. Walker Is Accused of Attempted Murder

Walker, 27, was arrested and charged with attempted murder and assault after police say he shot Sgt. John Mattingly; Mattingly survived and underwent surgery for his injuries.

Walker pleaded not guilty, and his lawyer argued that he acted in self-defense because he didn’t know who was at the door.

“Had Mr. Walker known that police were outside he would have opened the door and ushered them in,” Eggert told the Courier Journal, adding that no drugs were found, the home belonged to Taylor and Walker wasn’t even the target of the police’s search warrant.

Sam Aguiar, a lawyer for Taylor’s family, told WDRB that it was a case of misidentification and that he believed officers were looking for someone else connected to a different raid.

4. Taylor’s Death Sparked Sadness and Outrage

Taylor’s sister, Tracy Chapman, has posted messages seeking #JusticeforBree often, and Taylor was recently featured on a Facebook page “The Misidentified 4 – Louisville.”

5. Police Say the Matter Is Being Investigated

In an email to WDRB, LMPD Chief Steve Conrad declined to discuss the “incident that resulted in Ms. Taylor’s death” due to the pending Public Integrity investigation. However, he did note that no camera footage was available for the incident, because Criminal Interdiction Division officers do not wear them.

Mattingly, Det. Myles Cosgrove and Det. Brent Hankison have all been placed on administrative leave. One of them, Cosgrove, was sued for excessive force by a man he shot in 2006 at a Speedway gas station; Cosgrove won the suit.

At a press conference held 15 hours after the shooting, Conrad said, “We are extremely fortunate that our officer John Mattingly was not more seriously injured. We have no body-worn video cameras to share with you … even without the videos, our Public Integrity Unit will conduct a complete review of this case.”https://www.facebook.com/dialog/sha...om/news/2020/05/breonna-taylor/&display=popup

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

What was incorrect on the warrant?

Again, "executed in relation to a suspect that was already in custody". There was no need to execute the warrant since they had already located their main target. Also:
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Records show the warrant police used to enter Taylor's apartment connected her with a narcotics suspect, Jamarcus Glover, who was arrested in a separate raid that night at a house 10 miles away.

A detective wrote in an affidavit that he'd seen Glover leave Taylor's apartment about two months before with a USPS package before driving to a "known drug house." The detective wrote that he then verified "through a US Postal Inspector" that Glover had been receiving packages at Taylor's address.

A U.S. postal inspector in Louisville, however, told WDRB News Friday that LMPD didn't use his office to verify that Glover was receiving packages at Taylor's apartment.

Postal inspector Tony Gooden told WDRB that a different agency had asked in January to look into whether Taylor's home was receiving suspicious mail, but that the office had concluded it wasn't.

"There's no packages of interest going there," Gooden told the news outlet.

Gooden's statement "directly contradicts what the police stated in the affidavit to secure a no-knock warrant for her home."

Breonna Taylor attorneys: LMPD supplied 'false information' on 'no-knock' warrant

Attorneys for Breonna Taylor's family say Louisville Metro Police gave "false information" in the affidavit used for a search warrant.

www.courier-journal.com

But again, the officer who was found to be shooting irresponsibly has been fired, and is facing charges for his actions. What more do you want?

ONE of the officers that was shooting irresponsibly was fired. (He'll just end up with another LE job elsewhere.)
I already answered this.

Well, I can't agree with that. Police officers are trained to identify one's medical condition and how to best respond. By your standard(Period), a "medical professional" would have to verify every death before an officer can even react at all. I think that's unreasonable.

That's not even close to what I said. Verify a death before an officer can react? Are you serious? Someone was shot and is injured. CALL AN AMBULANCE. If you're not legally allowed to pronounce a death, CALL AN AMBULANCE.

Not even everyone who holds a MEDICAL LICENSE can pronounce a death. What makes an officer so special? They've taken first aid and CPR? Congratulations. Maybe a little tactical trauma training? I would be willing to place money on the fact that I have more medical training than many police officers. I would lose my job and my license for failing to call an ambulance for a gunshot victim, even if they were cold.

There's no indication that Cosgrove was simply "spraying bullets". The officers who served the warrant came under fire, they fired back at the two people in the hallway/bedroom. Again I'll ask, who do you want to be charged, and for what crime?

There's plenty of indication to that. Go look at the crime scene photos.
I've already answered your question here too.

But you're speaking from a position of hindsight. 30 shots is 10 shots from each officer. It's easy to second guess and say now that Walker and Taylor were not dangerous. The officers on the scene had no idea what they were walking into. Anyone who has ever been under fire will tell you that firing 10 shots is nothing. I don't wish to offend you, but you seem to lack an understanding of how one reacts when under fire. You don't think, you don't count how many rounds you've fired, you just respond.

Yes, I understand that. Thank you for explaining this to me, a poor little female who has never been under stress. I don't expect them to count their shots and keep it under an "acceptable" number. And again, I never said that they were wrong for returning fire. But thanks for putting words into my mouth more than once here. Par for the course, I suppose.

 

[Howell]

Again, "executed in relation to a suspect that was already in custody". There was no need to execute the warrant since they had already located their main target. Also:
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Records show the warrant police used to enter Taylor's apartment connected her with a narcotics suspect, Jamarcus Glover, who was arrested in a separate raid that night at a house 10 miles away.

A detective wrote in an affidavit that he'd seen Glover leave Taylor's apartment about two months before with a USPS package before driving to a "known drug house." The detective wrote that he then verified "through a US Postal Inspector" that Glover had been receiving packages at Taylor's address.

A U.S. postal inspector in Louisville, however, told WDRB News Friday that LMPD didn't use his office to verify that Glover was receiving packages at Taylor's apartment.

Postal inspector Tony Gooden told WDRB that a different agency had asked in January to look into whether Taylor's home was receiving suspicious mail, but that the office had concluded it wasn't.

"There's no packages of interest going there," Gooden told the news outlet.

Gooden's statement "directly contradicts what the police stated in the affidavit to secure a no-knock warrant for her home."

Breonna Taylor attorneys: LMPD supplied 'false information' on 'no-knock' warrant

Attorneys for Breonna Taylor's family say Louisville Metro Police gave "false information" in the affidavit used for a search warrant.

www.courier-journal.com

That's not an incorrect warrant. It was signed by a judge. The officers went to the address and served the warrant.

ONE of the officers that was shooting irresponsibly was fired. (He'll just end up with another LE job elsewhere.)
I already answered this.

You've not answered this. You said "I know that the officers were the only ones up for charges, but it shouldn't have been only them, IMO." Who are you referring to? And what crimes should they be charged with?

That's not even close to what I said. Verify a death before an officer can react? Are you serious? Someone was shot and is injured. CALL AN AMBULANCE. If you're not legally allowed to pronounce a death, CALL AN AMBULANCE.

Not even everyone who holds a MEDICAL LICENSE can pronounce a death. What makes an officer so special? They've taken first aid and CPR? Congratulations. Maybe a little tactical trauma training? I would be willing to place money on the fact that I have more medical training than many police officers. I would lose my job and my license for failing to call an ambulance for a gunshot victim, even if they were cold.

That's exactly what you said. "The officers are not medical professionals. They don't get to make the call that someone is "beyond saving". Period." You're talking nonsense. "Legally allowed to pronounce a death"... The officers on the scene saw a woman who had been shot SIX times. They didn't need a medical license or "tactical trauma training" to determine she was dead. And yes, whether you like it or not, they have that discretion.

There's plenty of indication to that. Go look at the crime scene photos.
I've already answered your question here too.

I've seen the crime scene photos. Surely you understand that crime scene photos can not tell us who fired what shots, or when. And no, you have not answered the question. Again I'll ask: Who else do you think should be charged, and for what crime?

Yes, I understand that. Thank you for explaining this to me, a poor little female who has never been under stress. I don't expect them to count their shots and keep it under an "acceptable" number. And again, I never said that they were wrong for returning fire. But thanks for putting words into my mouth more than once here. Par for the course, I suppose.

I have no idea whether you're female or not or whether you've ever been under stress or not, but I've not put words in your mouth at all. I've only responded to what you've said.

 

[GrandmaBear]

A few nights ago, I watched two podcasts on this by DutyRon. He is a retired NYC police officer and his opinion is close to one might expect from many police officers.

What startled me though, is I felt like I was almost listening to another case and it makes me wonder why there are different versions of this case.

It made me question the version I thought was true and makes me of course question the media and info put out there on it. If you are a person who can take and are interested in listening to a far different point of view than most of us are expressing here, it is worth listening to. I watched his two that came out around when the settlement was announced and then the charges.

For one thing, I thought the warrant was in error and the residence was an incorrect one and it does not sound as if that was the case? So the main thing actually is that they were executing several warrants simultaneously and the key figure was arrested in one of them so this is why they say they had no need to execute that one? Do I have that right?

He also states that Breonna was no choir girl (paraphrasing). Now that could set many off but he is not saying she deserved this but he makes it clear she was involved with not one but two big drug dealers and she knew it whether she was engaged in doing anything regarding drugs or not. He puts weight on the boyfriend by bringing this to Breonna's door in that he lived there or was staying there and was dealing. I forget.

As to no knock warrants, that is definitely a big point of contention and discussion. I was discussing this with my daughter the other night. For one thing, and DutyRon touches on it too, no knock warrants are no easy thing to get. They are not handed out like candy. They need very specific evidence and most judges are not going to easily issue such a thing if they value their career and they don't often go to the small local judge but a federal judge.

I would like to see drugs stopped (pipe dream lol, won't happen) and crime shut down (or at least some control over it again) and LE needs to have some power to do that. If someone knew a warrant was coming or had the knock, even a split second gives them a chance to take a child as a hostage, dump drugs or grab a gun to shoot the cop. If they don't execute simultaneous warrants, then someone not arrested in one raid or a neighbor has the chance to call the other guys and warn them what just happened and that they may be next.

However, I do agree they can be very dangerous. Children could be home and more. Let's not forget though that the people (if guilty) put their children in this lifestyle and in this danger with their choices. A raid would not be the biggest chance of danger to them in my opinion versus the elements in the lifestyle.

DutyRon also makes it clear this was also gang related and not just drug dealing. That is another thing I guess I never heard but is maybe a no brainer these days and I should have realized.

Back to the no knock warrants, I agree it is dangerous, I don't think they ever should be given out without serious double checking of evidence, cause and reason, people have a right to their privacy and safety. God forbid if anyone corrupt for LE or a judge issued or used them otherwise. Maybe changes would help to the ways, hours, etc. but the element of surprise is likely needed with serious big time criminals (think Mafia years even) or kingpins. I don't know that is the case here but am saying, I can see the reason for them but they should be a rarity or one would hope.

I am coming back to one thing I believed that I am now unsure was true. I was under the impression they had the wrong or incorrect residence. If they did NOT, it changes some of my opinions greatly.

The number of shots I go a bit two ways on as well. It may seem like few to some when under fire but these are serious well trained LE I imagine to do such an operation although it is not sounding like it with the one at least... A great point above is that out of all of these shots the one that fired the first one, the bf was never hit but Breonna was... MULTIPLE times. Has anyone wondered at all if she was informing...? All one needs is one dirty cop or so in the mix for leaks... They may not be able to stop an operation but can put a kink in it if protecting their own arse or payments... Maybe that is far fetched and too many old movies...

More likely the boyfriend shot and then hid his arse to save his arse and the cops fired at the area the shot came from killing her...

One does have to admit though the entire thing reeks in various directions. What was a cop that was questionable or so now we hear doing in an operation like this to begin with? That takes me back to no knocks being serious big time things, rarely needed/granted and one would think only top people would be involved in executing them either...

Can't sleep so one of these think out loud posts. I should reread it. Tried to keep it in somewhat of a logical process... @Howell you most definitely did put words in She's mouth and you have done it to plenty of us. Be a big girl or boy and cop to it/admit it. Because there is discussion going on here including with you and let's get back to that. You know exactly what she means in most cases and are not clueless. You have had some great food for thought, let's keep doing that. Or we can all bail I guess if you want to do your usual. You seem unable to resist trying to get a rise out of people Why is that? Meant lightly.

Anyhow, I also have thoughts or questions re grand juries but don't want to get into that topic in this post which is already long.

 

[Guess Who]

i still can't get over the fact that every one of the officers bullets missed the guy that fired a gun at them, but so many hit the lady laying in bed. Something else is at play here that we are not being told and that I believe body cams would have mostly answered.

 

[GrandmaBear]

i still can't get over the fact that every one of the officers bullets missed the guy that fired a gun at them, but so many hit the lady laying in bed. Something else is at play here that we are not being told and that I believe body cams would have mostly answered.

I thought it was you that made that remark. It's a great observation. I thought maybe it's dark and he shoots and then jumps behind or under the bed or hides somewhere in panic and such and then all bullets hit her as they fired back in the direction of the first shot... Well not all bullets, but many...

I am entirely unfamiliar with grand juries but it is a no brainer that the jury can only decide based on evidence and information presented and questions asked and answered. Is there defense present at a grand jury? I wouldn't think so as no one has charges yet so no one is a defendant? I am more used to seeing preliminary hearings where the defendant is charged and the prosecution has to show enough reason for the charge(s) and by then there is a defendant and defense attorney if I have it correct.

This is something I bring up as an article or link above states that the prosecutor did not provide all info. In a prelim I don't think they have to, but in a grand jury, I am not as sure?

Is anyone here more familiar with them? Or has anyone served on one?

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Turns out they couldn't have even if they wanted to. Not surprising.

Taylor grand jury not allowed to indict cops for her death | Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder

Controversy continues to follow the decision not to charge the Louisville police who shot and killed Breonna Taylor.

spokesman-recorder.com

Taylor grand jury not allowed to indict cops for her death​

In the latest development, an unnamed juror has come forward saying that Kentucky Attorney General David Cameron never allowed the jury to consider indicting the Louisville cops that shot Breonna Taylor after breaking into her home.

According to the juror, Cameron misspoke when he said at a news conference, “There are six possible homicide charges under Kentucky law. These charges are not applicable to the facts before us because our investigation showed — and the grand jury agreed — that Mattingly and Cosgrove were justified in the return of deadly fire after having been fired upon.”

According to the juror, this never happened. She said the grand jury was never given the opportunity or option to indict the officers who shot Taylor, but were only presented a case against Hankison.

Grand jury was never asked to mull homicide charges in Breonna Taylor case

Kentucky's attorney general said the only charge he recommended to the grand jury was wanton endangerment.

www.politico.com

Grand jury was never asked to mull homicide charges in Breonna Taylor case​

Kentucky’s attorney general has acknowledged that he never asked the grand jury to consider homicide charges against police in the killing of Breonna Taylor.

Amid outrage over the long-awaited charging decision, Attorney General Daniel Cameron said he would agree with a judge’s order to make public a recording of the proceedings, and that he wouldn’t object if members of the panel want to speak publicly about their grand jury experience.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/30/breonna-taylor-grand-jury-recording-release-delayed/

Release of grand jury proceedings postponed in Breonna Taylor case after prosecutor requests delay​

The Kentucky attorney general will have two additional days to release audio from the proceedings of the grand jury that considered charges in the fatal shooting of Breonna Taylor, a judge ruled Wednesday.

Attorney General Daniel Cameron’s office requested a week-long extension after Jefferson County Circuit Judge Ann Bailey Smith ordered that his office file a recording with the court by noon Wednesday. Cameron (R) cited a need to protect witnesses by redacting personal information from the audio, which his spokeswoman said is more than 20 hours long.

 

[kdg411]

Court Releases Grand Jury Recording In Breonna Taylor Case

The recording could answer lingering questions about how prosecutors have handled a case that has fueled protests in Kentucky and across the nation.

www.npr.org

 

[Howell]

Tried to keep it in somewhat of a logical process... @Howell you most definitely did put words in She's mouth and you have done it to plenty of us. Be a big girl or boy and cop to it/admit it. Because there is discussion going on here including with you and let's get back to that. You know exactly what she means in most cases and are not clueless. You have had some great food for thought, let's keep doing that. Or we can all bail I guess if you want to do your usual. You seem unable to resist trying to get a rise out of people Why is that? Meant lightly.

Anyhow, I also have thoughts or questions re grand juries but don't want to get into that topic in this post which is already long.

I'm not trying to get a rise out of anyone, nor did I put words in her mouth. I quoted exactly what she said. You're free to do the same and quote where I've put words in her mouth.

 

[Howell]

i still can't get over the fact that every one of the officers bullets missed the guy that fired a gun at them, but so many hit the lady laying in bed. Something else is at play here that we are not being told and that I believe body cams would have mostly answered.

As I stated earlier, Breonna was NOT laying in bed. She was standing in the hallway. But you're right, there are things you are not being told, and chief among them is the truth.

 

[kdg411]

Has anyone listened to this 911 recording?


After the shots were fired, did Kenneth Walker stay inside that apartment with Breonna? If he fired and struck an officer who got him out of there and wouldn't there be additional audio regarding an officer down?

In my opinion, a lot of MSM is falsely leading the public with their own narrative.

 

[Ranch]

i still can't get over the fact that every one of the officers bullets missed the guy that fired a gun at them, but so many hit the lady laying in bed. Something else is at play here that we are not being told and that I believe body cams would have mostly answered.

One possible reason Breonna was shot and Walker wasn't is that he was standing behind her.

 

[Ranch]

I found this new information from the grand jury tape interesting. The police knock loudly on the door and wait long enough for Walker and Taylor to get dressed before they broke down the door. That fits with the police account that they did knock and announce multiple times before entering the apartment. Walker also admits he "let off one shot" and not a "warning shot" that the media keeps claiming.

Before the shooting, Walker said he and Taylor were woken up by a “loud bang.” He said Taylor repeatedly asked who was at the door, her voice growing louder each time she asked. There was no response, he said.

“We both get up,” he said. “Another knock at the door. [Taylor] is like ‘who is it,’ louder, at the top of her lungs. No response. I’m like, ‘What the heck.’”

Walker said he grabbed his gun, and he and Taylor both got dressed to answer the door, but they’d only made it to the hallway when the door flew off the hinges. He “let off one shot,” he said.

'Shooting like crazy': Chaotic scene described in Breonna Taylor grand jury recordings

Newly released recordings of the grand jury proceedings in the Breonna Taylor case portray a wildly chaotic and dangerous shooting at the Louisville apartment complex in March, and a shellshocked boyfriend processing his girlfriend’s death.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Guess Who]

As I stated earlier, Breonna was NOT laying in bed. She was standing in the hallway. But you're right, there are things you are not being told, and chief among them is the truth.

No matter where she was or wasnt, their defense was that they drew fire because they had fire drawn on them. That part i get. What i dont get at all is absolutely none of their DOZENS of shots hit the person they were firing at and they hit the wrong target multiple times. That makes no sense or they need to not be allowed to carry a firearm

 

[Guess Who]

One possible reason Breonna was shot and Walker wasn't is that he was standing behind her.

Even a better reason why they need to not be allowed firearms. They were careless and there should be no excuse for that. They didnt just miss their target once or twice, multiple officers missed him dozens of times.

 

[Guess Who]

I found this new information from the grand jury tape interesting. The police knock loudly on the door and wait long enough for Walker and Taylor to get dressed before they broke down the door. That fits with the police account that they did knock and announce multiple times before entering the apartment. Walker also admits he "let off one shot" and not a "warning shot" that the media keeps claiming.

'Shooting like crazy': Chaotic scene described in Breonna Taylor grand jury recordings

Newly released recordings of the grand jury proceedings in the Breonna Taylor case portray a wildly chaotic and dangerous shooting at the Louisville apartment complex in March, and a shellshocked boyfriend processing his girlfriend’s death.

news.yahoo.com

I'm not buying the "warning shot" either. I'm sure he fired at them.

 

[Ranch]

Even a better reason why they need to not be allowed firearms. They were careless and there should be no excuse for that. They didnt just miss their target once or twice, multiple officers missed him dozens of times.

Seems a bit extreme. Apparently it was dark in the apartment so that means the officers had a hard time seeing Walker. I guess they could have held their fire and let Walker continue to pump bullets into them.

 

[Howell]

No matter where she was or wasnt, their defense was that they drew fire because they had fire drawn on them. That part i get. What i dont get at all is absolutely none of their DOZENS of shots hit the person they were firing at and they hit the wrong target multiple times. That makes no sense or they need to not be allowed to carry a firearm

The officers drew fire from the bedroom/hallway and they fired back at the person standing in the hallway. That was Breonna, so six shots did in fact hit the person they were firing at. Of course, we know now that Breonna did not have a gun and was not shooting at anyone, but there was no way for the officers at that moment to discern who was firing at them.

There were obviously several shots fired that went astray, and an officer has been criminally charged for that. I'm not sure what more you want to see happen.

 

[Guess Who]

Seems a bit extreme. Apparently it was dark in the apartment so that means the officers had a hard time seeing Walker. I guess they could have held their fire and let Walker continue to pump bullets into them.

The officers drew fire from the bedroom/hallway and they fired back at the person standing in the hallway. That was Breonna, so six shots did in fact hit the person they were firing at. Of course, we know now that Breonna did not have a gun and was not shooting at anyone, but there was no way for the officers at that moment to discern who was firing at them.

There were obviously several shots fired that went astray, and an officer has been criminally charged for that. I'm not sure what more you want to see happen.

so a robber is standing behind you and fires one shot at cops, cops return fire, miss the robber after firing dozens of shots and riddle you with bullets and your family's are just supposed to say "meh"? And this guy wasn't even a robber!

 

[Ranch]

so a robber is standing behind you and fires one shot at cops, cops return fire, miss the robber after firing dozens of shots and riddle you with bullets and your family's are just supposed to say "meh"? And this guy wasn't even a robber!

That's about it. Are you saying that LE doesn't have a right to self defense?

 

[Howell]

so a robber is standing behind you and fires one shot at cops, cops return fire, miss the robber after firing dozens of shots and riddle you with bullets and your family's are just supposed to say "meh"? And this guy wasn't even a robber!

As I said before, it's unfortunate that Taylor was killed. I don't think that's in dispute. But if the question is one of culpability, then we have to examine the actions of those involved leading up to this incident. Taylor wasn't an innocent EMT killed by racist cops. That's the narrative being spun, but it isn't true. She was clearly fraternizing with known drug dealers, which ultimately led to a no-knock warrant being executed on her home. Her family didn't say "meh". They were paid $12 million for her death, but should probably be asking themselves why they didn't intervene earlier and steer Breonna away from these people.