DAN MARKEL: Florida v Magbanua, Garcia, & Adelson in murder-for-hire *Magbanua & Adelson GUILTY*

Leon Circuit Judge James C. Hankinson set an April 13 trial date for Katherine Magbanua, whose charges in the murder of Florida State law professor Dan Markel ended in mistrial earlier this month.

Magbanua, wearing a blue Leon County Detention Center jumpsuit, appeared in the courtroom with her attorneys, Chris DeCoste and Tara Kawass. Hankinson asked about her legal representation moving forward; DeCoste said he and Kawass intend to continue defending her.

Judge sets retrial date for Katherine Magbanua in Dan Markel killing

After a mistrial earlier this month, a new trial date has been set for Katherine Magbanua in the killing of Dan Markel.

www.tallahassee.com

 

[GrandmaBear]

Guilty on all three counts including murder!!!!!

Hooray!

Juries usually get it right. Way to go jury AND prosecution! I actually did see a bit of this and his testimony as well. He is a pretty quick answerer, showing no hesitation and not caught easily in lies, better than many I"ve seen BUT too much so, too much to explain away and too pat and practiced and their theorty was imo ridiculous. He never had a SINGLE "I don't remember' or "don't recall", not that all answers like that are good either but it belies belief you'd recall even every unimportant detail from that long ago.

I had to leave off at that point, never saw closing arguments or it go to the jury etc, figured it must have but didn't know. This is first I saw. I only got to watch on a day off,, sure didn't see the entire trial. And never intended on watching any as it wasn't a case I followed all that closely but couldn't find a darned other thing on when I had a moment while doing other things is how it happened.

Now for those that know it even better, do you think they will one day come next at Wendy or mom...

 

[GrandmaBear]

BREAKING, BREAKING, BREAKING NEWS. DONNA ADELSON ARRESTED AT AIRPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GrandmaBear]

 

[GrandmaBear]

For never having followed this case closely, I've certainly gotten some education the last few weeks unintentionally.

When anyone gets a chance, this is big stuff.

The minute almost or day of/next day her son was convicted she booked a flight to Vietnam. Along with her husband. They found out and barely got things signed by the judge in time to swoop in and arrest her when scheduled to fly out last night. No bond and charged with the big charges, so if they weren't ready, they aren't going with some lesser charge to hold her

Lots of interesting stuff. And new info. I have been really liking this lawyer lately.

 

[GrandmaBear]

So if I have it right, she had several calls with Charlie in the short week after his conviction. And in one of them for example, she talks of suicide to him and of moving to a country with no extradition treaty with us. Viet Nam is one such country.

It seems pretty stupid to talk of your plans in a jailhouse call or did she think they'd be gone before LE would ever pick up on it and have enough to arrest her?

She had a short like two minute court appearance already and was in the kind of garb/vest they use for suicide risks.

NO bond. And I'd say it will likely stay that way as she is already proven to be a flight risk.

There was something I didn't really follow and maybe if anyone else ever looks at it all, they can clear it up. I didn't hear the judge say it but I was so darned tired, but apparently the judge said something like "didn't I just see you on my flight in from Paris" or "weren't you on my flight in from Paris"? He may have meant the attorney but apparently there was talk that they'd been in Italy in recent days and if it was meant to Donna, she stupidly came back onto US soil into Miami and again it was speculated cops would never move that fast or so she thought...

Totally possible, she nor hub were under any restrictions nor under arrest although she is now.

Jet setting one day all over the place and in jail the next.

I never did more through the years than just read posts in here and never got sucked into this case just knew it marginally with the basic facts. I wasn't even entirely clear on all of the players but somehow in hearing some of Charlie's testimony while doing other things one day and then it winding into Magnabua's (butchered the spelling I'm sure) and hearing a bit of that and then the conviction, I somehow know it more now than I did and now the mom was arrested.

I don't get much time but when I am tired after a long day and look for something I'm not finding much the past few weeks but this one is on because of trial, then conviction, then speculation on next arrests and now arrest. Most of who I watch aren't going NEAR Delphi, there is little on LISK, etc. So that's how it happened. I didn't even want to listen to his testimony hardly following the case but it was something current to put on one day as background listening while cleaning.

And now that I am more up on it, no one is around that was into it to discuss it with LOL. Not that I'd get time to anyhow I suppose lol.

But figured I should update what I can here since it is big news and while I have one single moment.

 

[Paradise]

The solicitation charge will also keep her from jetting a bond,

 

[Regina]

The more I learn about the Adelson's, the more I believe that Wendi is the most depraved of the bunch.
As for whether she'll be charged, I expect she will because I think there's enough evidence to show her involvement in the conspiracy.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The more I learn about the Adelson's, the more I believe that Wendi is the most depraved of the bunch.
As for whether she'll be charged, I expect she will because I think there's enough evidence to show her involvement in the conspiracy.

You and I certainly do not always agree or hold the same viewpoint but I agree on this one. I did not follow this case closely as I've said but knew the basics but in the last week or two have come to know it a lot better and my thought yesterday/last night was Wendi is going to come last but that one is going to be the BIG one, the connection, the whole enchilda, the icing on the cake, the one some worry they won't get.

Don't get me wrong, I think Donna is up there as is Charlie and Donna raised these monsters and couldn't stay out of control of lives but WENDI, despite all of that, this was her husband and her children, But for her... She is the center, the catalyst, etc.

I'm tired and don't have the words but I know what you mean and I did not put what I meant correctly but again agree and know I think what you mean. I see it that way also and I think they are going up the ladder so to speak, one after the other and saving the "best for last". Although Donna is pretty big news as was C's conviction (and arrest back when). I think we/most know Wendi is front and center.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The solicitation charge will also keep her from jetting a bond,

yep they are talking no bond or "good luck with that one donna"

 

[Regina]

I did not follow this case closely as I've said but knew the basics but in the last week or two have come to know it a lot better and my thought yesterday/last night was Wendi is going to come last but that one is going to be the BIG one, the connection, the whole enchilda, the icing on the cake, the one some worry they won't get.

I don't think I'd heard of the case until shortly before Charlie's trial started but since then, I've followed it fairly close, first by listening to prior testimonies and LE interviews.
Yeah, it seems there's concern that the DA may think that the evidence isn't strong enough against Wendi but I strongly disagree.
I think she may be the most diabolically manipulative individual I've ever seen.

Don't get me wrong, I think Donna is up there as is Charlie and Donna raised these monsters and couldn't stay out of control of lives but WENDI, despite all of that, this was her husband and her children, But for her... She is the center, the catalyst, etc.

Indeed, I think they're all sociopathic to some extent but to me, Wendi's is off the chart.
I think she's a master manipulator and had she not wanted a hit, it wouldn't have happened.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I don't think I'd heard of the case until shortly before Charlie's trial started but since then, I've followed it fairly close, first by listening to prior testimonies and LE interviews.
Yeah, it seems there's concern that the DA may think that the evidence isn't strong enough against Wendi but I strongly disagree.
I think she may be the most diabolically manipulative individual I've ever seen.

Indeed, I think they're all sociopathic to some extent but to me, Wendi's is off the chart.
I think she's a master manipulator and had she not wanted a hit, it wouldn't have happened.

Yep the entire family is something else. There is I take it one brother who has nothing to do with them who MIGHT be normal.

Wendi is off the charts. Master manipulator and spoiled rotten and feels she is so special. What Wendi wants, Wendi gets imo. I don't think she is quite as smart as she thinks though. She's a great example of why one needs to worry about the attorney they choose... And of course she still has the kids. Kill dad and gain sole custody and it worked. To date anyhow.

Do we think she is VERY worried about self now? Is she looking for airline tickets...? Does she care about mom being arrested at all for mom's sake? Is she devastated for mom and dad? I mean they are all awful but this was because of HER and HER situation.

As I said, I didn't either pay a lot of attention to this case throughout so there are things I don't know like for instance, is this family's money unlimited?? Of course I know dad is/was a dentist, Charlie a periodontist, Wendi an attorney and yes there would be bucks but just one murder and a defense lawyer for Charlie can go through even a fair wealthy family's fortune and now Donna will need one. There is clearly a lot of money re the folks as they are always jet setting internationally and apparently had plans to set up home in another country as well.

Donna actually found Dan for Wendi I heard. Poor guy coming into this family and being married to that woman... If this wasn't so sad and tragic, it would seem like a very bad movie. That not only someone, but an entire family can do such a thing...

 

[Guess Who]

Yep the entire family is something else. There is I take it one brother who has nothing to do with them who MIGHT be normal.

Wendi is off the charts. Master manipulator and spoiled rotten and feels she is so special. What Wendi wants, Wendi gets imo. I don't think she is quite as smart as she thinks though. She's a great example of why one needs to worry about the attorney they choose... And of course she still has the kids. Kill dad and gain sole custody and it worked. To date anyhow.

Do we think she is VERY worried about self now? Is she looking for airline tickets...? Does she care about mom being arrested at all for mom's sake? Is she devastated for mom and dad? I mean they are all awful but this was because of HER and HER situation.

As I said, I didn't either pay a lot of attention to this case throughout so there are things I don't know like for instance, is this family's money unlimited?? Of course I know dad is/was a dentist, Charlie a periodontist, Wendi an attorney and yes there would be bucks but just one murder and a defense lawyer for Charlie can go through even a fair wealthy family's fortune and now Donna will need one. There is clearly a lot of money re the folks as they are always jet setting internationally and apparently had plans to set up home in another country as well.

Donna actually found Dan for Wendi I heard. Poor guy coming into this family and being married to that woman... If this wasn't so sad and tragic, it would seem like a very bad movie. That not only someone, but an entire family can do such a thing...

Master manipulators also are notorious for over exaggerating their wealth and just because they appear wealthy, doesn't mean they aren't leveraged to the hilt by the banks. Just sayin. I have no idea if they are like that, but it would be nice to think they are and it's all an illusion about to crash down on them.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Master manipulators also are notorious for over exaggerating their wealth and just because they appear wealthy, doesn't mean they aren't leveraged to the hilt by the banks. Just sayin. I have no idea if they are like that, but it would be nice to think they are and it's all an illusion about to crash down on them.

Not sure. Clearly the parents at least aren't out of money or credit room as it is rumored they were in and came from Italy and now seemingly were set to move to Viet Nam (probably, they had a stop in Dubai on this flight they MISSED lol). I wonder if they insured their tickets lol. Dad could have still went I'd asume but don't think he did... I would also assume whatever home they had (unknown to me) they were leaving behind and their things or had they been getting rid of them, changing title, selling home... I am going to guess once ensconced in some no extradition treaty country they'd manage all that from afar or could afford to lose it in return for her freedom...

From what I've gleaned the last few weeks and as you know I don't get much time but when I do come home tired I look here and then simultaneously usually put on some YT video of those I watch. In the last few weeks, I coudln't find much and many were on Adelson. That's how I ended up knowing more than I had known. But anyhow, it has sounded like from many, dad is unlikely to be arrested. Harvey. Speculated by most they don't have much on him. I would say I have serious doubt he did not KNOW his family did this whether from the start or at some point but maybe didn't have his hands in it totally dirty. Some also speculate whether they have enough on Wendi. I think they do. i think any jury with brains can see it with what they have. Things just line up and their codes and TV story and alibi and more. I watched one last night about Wendi and did she throw Charlie under the bus and her manipulation, etc. It showed some of her interview with police and it was not long before she mentioned Charlie AND then later her mom... She came across to me as fake as all get out as she did on the stand as well.

Does she practice while raising children? Is she remarried? I guess I don't know any of that. We do know she is getting no child support. I wouldn't go to her as an attorney if I knew who she was but many probably don't.

It was life changing for Charlie but it really has to be a wake up call to someone like Donna being in JAIL and not running lives or even her own.

It's interesting that Donna wanted them to be able to move near them back when the divorce happened. Now she was ready to move to another country and leave Wendi and the kids.

Will Wendi flee? Is she worried and panicking? She may think they have nothing on her but I disagree. This family has been "loyal" but will it stay that way... Will Donna make a deal... Charlie went down and they all know it and now it is Donna's turn and Wendi's is coming in my belief.

If she tries to flee I am going to guess she won't book tickets or do it as mom did... She has seen how quick they knew that one... As egocentric as she is, she has got to be paranoid and worried because I think she's next .

What a messed up bunch of lawless crazies. How long will the money last or as you said are they maxed to the limit or something like that? Once they hit Viet Nam I am going to guess they had no intention of paying any debts here? And that would make me wonder if they've recently moved or protected money, sold assets, etc.? Hard to say and maybe not, maybe this was all on the fly after Charlie's conviction...

 

[Guess Who]

Not sure. Clearly the parents at least aren't out of money or credit room as it is rumored they were in and came from Italy and now seemingly were set to move to Viet Nam (probably, they had a stop in Dubai on this flight they MISSED lol). I wonder if they insured their tickets lol. Dad could have still went I'd asume but don't think he did... I would also assume whatever home they had (unknown to me) they were leaving behind and their things or had they been getting rid of them, changing title, selling home... I am going to guess once ensconced in some no extradition treaty country they'd manage all that from afar or could afford to lose it in return for her freedom...

From what I've gleaned the last few weeks and as you know I don't get much time but when I do come home tired I look here and then simultaneously usually put on some YT video of those I watch. In the last few weeks, I coudln't find much and many were on Adelson. That's how I ended up knowing more than I had known. But anyhow, it has sounded like from many, dad is unlikely to be arrested. Harvey. Speculated by most they don't have much on him. I would say I have serious doubt he did not KNOW his family did this whether from the start or at some point but maybe didn't have his hands in it totally dirty. Some also speculate whether they have enough on Wendi. I think they do. i think any jury with brains can see it with what they have. Things just line up and their codes and TV story and alibi and more. I watched one last night about Wendi and did she throw Charlie under the bus and her manipulation, etc. It showed some of her interview with police and it was not long before she mentioned Charlie AND then later her mom... She came across to me as fake as all get out as she did on the stand as well.

Does she practice while raising children? Is she remarried? I guess I don't know any of that. We do know she is getting no child support. I wouldn't go to her as an attorney if I knew who she was but many probably don't.

It was life changing for Charlie but it really has to be a wake up call to someone like Donna being in JAIL and not running lives or even her own.

It's interesting that Donna wanted them to be able to move near them back when the divorce happened. Now she was ready to move to another country and leave Wendi and the kids.

Will Wendi flee? Is she worried and panicking? She may think they have nothing on her but I disagree. This family has been "loyal" but will it stay that way... Will Donna make a deal... Charlie went down and they all know it and now it is Donna's turn and Wendi's is coming in my belief.

If she tries to flee I am going to guess she won't book tickets or do it as mom did... She has seen how quick they knew that one... As egocentric as she is, she has got to be paranoid and worried because I think she's next .

What a messed up bunch of lawless crazies. How long will the money last or as you said are they maxed to the limit or something like that? Once they hit Viet Nam I am going to guess they had no intention of paying any debts here? And that would make me wonder if they've recently moved or protected money, sold assets, etc.? Hard to say and maybe not, maybe this was all on the fly after Charlie's conviction...

I now wonder what more webs of deceit will be uncovered with this planned move to Nam like the plan for payments of any loans/obligations they have here. Did they cash in all their equity and then max out credit cards and then plan on leaving? Overseas accounts set up? How far along was the plan on where to live in Nam? Deposits paid (with this plausible maxing out funding?)? So many questions!

 

[GrandmaBear]

I now wonder what more webs of deceit will be uncovered with this planned move to Nam like the plan for payments of any loans/obligations they have here. Did they cash in all their equity and then max out credit cards and then plan on leaving? Overseas accounts set up? How far along was the plan on where to live in Nam? Deposits paid (with this plausible maxing out funding?)? So many questions!

Yep. This could have been last minute or moving assets, making plans for months, hard to say. It is rumor but a strong one that they were in Italy during some part or weeks of this trial. Now that has nothing to do wit Nam but clearly they are able to leave, access funds, leave their home for a length of time, etc. I assume they have a home here still, I have no idea on those things. LE did one AWESOME job here on scrambling. Different jurisidictions even, not easy and we know how slow courts, red tape, etc. can work. Right at the airport ready to leave.

This woman imo is condescending in she actually thought after years of them in code and fear of being wire tapped, that she thought she could talk of such to Charlie of moving to a non extradition country, book tickets and they'd be to slow to even hear the call recording or pick up on the tickets, move fast enough or believed they did not have enough on her yet or she'd have already been arrested. Big mistake on the family matriarch's part...

So do we think Wendi is the type that will make dad a turkey and some cranberry sauce? Of course maybe he won't expect it as he thought he'd be in Nam and it is an American holiday.

I have not heard it mentioned but I guess there is the possibility that they wouldn't have stayed in Nam but would confuse or route somewhere else or stay off in Dubai, etc. Nam is nonexradition treaty with us but still doesn't mean that was their final plan. If they'd got there and booked another ticket elsewhere now that would take time and be hard to catch up with them. Another country's records. And by the time they could find out, they could have went to a third. Just a thought.

This has been going on long enough and they traveled enough that maybe there is already another home or apartment in Nam or elsewhere, or connections, hard to say. OR bank account.

Yeah it is going to be interesting all right.

They were free for way too many years but one it started hitting, it hit and detectives and prosecutors are hitting it out of the park.

I cant' believe I ended up this invested in this case. I have known of it for almost always but never was one I followed big in its early days. I'd come here and read if something new but only if I had time for this one over others I knew more of, etc.

NOW I am like GO TEAM, get 'em all, take 'em down!!

Justice has been a long time coming for Dan Markel and family. But it's here now and ongoing...

 

[Guess Who]

Yep. This could have been last minute or moving assets, making plans for months, hard to say. It is rumor but a strong one that they were in Italy during some part or weeks of this trial. Now that has nothing to do wit Nam but clearly they are able to leave, access funds, leave their home for a length of time, etc. I assume they have a home here still, I have no idea on those things. LE did one AWESOME job here on scrambling. Different jurisidictions even, not easy and we know how slow courts, red tape, etc. can work. Right at the airport ready to leave.

This woman imo is condescending in she actually thought after years of them in code and fear of being wire tapped, that she thought she could talk of such to Charlie of moving to a non extradition country, book tickets and they'd be to slow to even hear the call recording or pick up on the tickets, move fast enough or believed they did not have enough on her yet or she'd have already been arrested. Big mistake on the family matriarch's part...

So do we think Wendi is the type that will make dad a turkey and some cranberry sauce? Of course maybe he won't expect it as he thought he'd be in Nam and it is an American holiday.

I have not heard it mentioned but I guess there is the possibility that they wouldn't have stayed in Nam but would confuse or route somewhere else or stay off in Dubai, etc. Nam is nonexradition treaty with us but still doesn't mean that was their final plan. If they'd got there and booked another ticket elsewhere now that would take time and be hard to catch up with them. Another country's records. And by the time they could find out, they could have went to a third. Just a thought.

This has been going on long enough and they traveled enough that maybe there is already another home or apartment in Nam or elsewhere, or connections, hard to say. OR bank account.

Yeah it is going to be interesting all right.

They were free for way too many years but one it started hitting, it hit and detectives and prosecutors are hitting it out of the park.

I cant' believe I ended up this invested in this case. I have known of it for almost always but never was one I followed big in its early days. I'd come here and read if something new but only if I had time for this one over others I knew more of, etc.

NOW I am like GO TEAM, get 'em all, take 'em down!!

Justice has been a long time coming for Dan Markel and family. But it's here now and ongoing...

I hope we get to see video of when they came in after her when she thought she was all but gone

 

[GrandmaBear]

I hope we get to see video of when they came in after her when she thought she was all but gone

Agreed! I know that is not nice but this is one I have long been decided on guilt even when not following as closely as now I followed enough. I wonder what kind of luggage they haev? How much they took? Fees for bags have to be pretty high for international travel... How MUCH CASH??? They probably couldn't check Harvey's pockets but they sure could her or her purse, etc. Any notes, contacts, addresses for Viet Nam? Hotel reservations? Shuttle?

Yeah this may be awhile but it is going to be interesting...

Did you see the short court hearing?

 

[GrandmaBear]

A MUST WATCH. Interesting and worth it. Vinnie is very vehement and passion at the beginning. Then Dan's nom comes on. I didn't know she wrote a book but I'd buy it. I'd never buy one from the likes of Chad Daybell or even the Clerk in Murdaugh but I'd buy a book from a victim's family member. A ton of good points and interesting stuff. She compliments how FBI and all agencies and more came together in time to arrest Donna. Highly compliments She makes a point of saying how things don't always work in LE and the system but when it DOES it is amazing. There is a lot more. How Donna came up to her after Dan's death and more. SIX YEAR gap in seeing grandkis. Actually has a time set to see them in December agreed with Wendi but unsure if that will come to pass with new developments.... Then the ending of the show Vinnie adds two guests and they look at examples of Wendi's testimony and likely lies/perjury. I gather they may be able to charge Wendi with perjury easier than murder for reasons they go into.

Stick it out even with the body language guy, it is worth it imo.

Anyhow I watch Court TV but don't always put it up there as high as some others I watch but this one was very good.

And I'm really glad things are finally going in the right way for Dan's family.

 

[GrandmaBear]

 

[Regina]

To me, it's over for Donna and I think that's the reason my interest lately is focused solely on Wendi.
Speaking of such, I recently heard the testimony of Jeffrey Lacasse from one of Katherine Magbanuas's trials- I think it was the 2nd trial- and I, as did most of the courtroom- literally laughed out loud when, responding to something Wendi told him, he said something like "well, that's tricky because she may have lied about lying". Lol!
Anyway, I don't know if anyone here has seen the following video. It shows Wendi's route the day of the murder compared to what she said in her police statement and trial testimonies.