DOERMAN BOYS: 3 sons shot “execution style” by father in Ohio *GUILTY PLEA*

WATCH THIS. EVIL PIECE OF SH*T. This is recent. It is short. Doesn't matter whose show it is but I haven't seen it elsewhere, just came across it. I think we need to look into this one and have a thread.

THIS "father" killed his 3 sons in FRONT of the mother/his wife and his stepdaughter. Mom tried to do something and he I think shot her in the hand. Stepdaughter ran down the street screaming. In short order at the beginning of this, they show the police taking him down and into custody. A TWENTY million dollar bond was asked for by the prosecution.

When have we ever heard of one where the perp leaves the mom alone AND a stepchild but kills his own three boys in front of those two????? I haven't come across anything else about it but haven't looked, just happened to run into this with the bit of time I had before bed.

A MUST watch imo. And SHORT.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I agree with both of you. It's just so horrible.

I am within I think 8 minutes of getting through it and yet never even considered finishing tonight. Just from all said throughout and never expecting the details put on the record, which actually should not have surprised me because even in a deal, that is often part of it, just haven't seen such in awhile, most never plead guilty and I think the mom and SD's statements are likely coming as well. The details have been hard and that's where I'm still at in it and it is just very heavy. I am up to where now the stepdaughter tried to save the third boy and had tried with two after running to and over with the first and when she realized something was happening.

What this girl dealt with alone... My God. Saw all three get murdered it seems because I am that far in.

But I would suggest to anyone watch him in court, even ten minutes, or more, whatever. He is with it, clear headed, all of that. Respectful. Agreeable. Seems very straightforward, no signs of anything. I have watched him throughout and watched like I said almost all of it but about maybe 8 or 9 minutes to go now which I WILL get back to but I had to get away from these details. They are not detailing gore or autopsy or anything but just the events of that day. And it is soooo hard. The entire first major portion of it was the legal stuff about his plea, the sentences, the law, that I could do and then we got to this towards the end.

I will get back to it and finish it. And post here. I don't want to but I ended up in it and heads don't need to be stuck in the sand, it needs to be known. And sadly once I've walked into something I did not expect to hear a report of the day's "events" --murders or a case about a missing child, I then can't walk away either even though I wish I'd never gone in.

IT MATTERS.

This teen sister had to see it all and handle it and so I WILL watch the rest.

Just not now. Can't.

 

[GrandmaBear]

 

[GrandmaBear]

Have not watched. Have not even finished the actual court hearing. But just ran into it. Not doing more of this one right now. I will at some point in the week finish the court hearing. Just not now.

 

[GrandmaBear]

OMG had no intention of watching it but I started it to get the link for here and before I got back to "changing the channel" it was playing. Sound to me like Vinnie is actually for the DP? Okay. He just went up a few points for me...

But shutting off for now as I can't do more of this one right now.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I still have not listened to less than the last ten minutes on this one but Scott Reisch covered the case on this in a video of which he covered multiple cases, this one is second up, I am beyond going and getting a time stamp, first was Delphi.

And he has things in both I've never heard.

AND I WATCHED the entire hearing except I haven't done the last ten minutes or less. Is this from documents or other hearings? I don't know, but I guarantee it is not false as to his info. Man, I tell ya if he was a prosecutor instead of a defense attorney, he'd be a good one.

 

[GrandmaBear]

This is striking me with some Daybell tones.

Scott's isn't a hard watch with details as to this case like the hearing was getting to be and I STILL have not finished it. I will but not sure when.

These boys deserve full coverage of it and so does their sister. Imo. And mom.

What I do know is Scott has info now in two cases that they have found I've seen no sign of or come across. Meaning probably filings or hearings or some such that news is not covering or who knows. Not that I might not have missed such but I look at whatever I come across on every case I follow closely.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I am not going into Read but his third case he covers in this is Read and of some jurors contacting but wanting to be anonymous, etc., etc. Scott sounds a lot like a prosecutor tonight. He says and it is true that every note from the jury as articulate and as if they were hung and they never said on just one count. What is that about?

Someone else can take it if they want and watch it and get a time stamp for each case but that is the third case and his point is valid. Points. And at times he is very defense attorney but he is FAIR most of the time. Listen to Delphi first and Doerman second. Now it is Read. I am tiring but he has some very good info tonight on several cases and I'm not down yet and may not finish until morning if then.

What I do know is such are things I hadn't heard and aren't here either in the first two for sure so I suspect the rest as well. News reports I guess don't cut it.

 

[GrandmaBear]

What has it been, a week or two, I finally went back and finished the last nine minutes maybe of this. As awful as it was, it wasn't as hard as it would have been had I kept going with watching all of it at once.

The rest went as we probably already knew. The SD grabbed the youngest child and ran with him and he caught up and pointed the gun and said drop him or he'd shoot her. She had no choice, point blank, and she did so and begged him not to kill her. Okay, there is not one bit easier about it. It's horrendous, it's just that I didn't listen to one horrendous thing after the other when finishing it. The little boy ran and tried to hide from dad behind garbage cans. To no avail while she took off running to get help at the fire department at this point.

It ended with the statements of mom and SD.

Throuighout everything he sat there emotionless but entirely with it, and cooperative and responding when asked anything.

The SD went first. They didn't show them and to me the voice did not sound like that of a teen so maybe someone read it for her, but no reason to assume it was not her either so it likely was. She told him what a good father he was to her and basically how she couldn't have asked for more, all the good memories, etc. But what he did to her that day. And this was hard she said she would never hate him. But at a point she said she could never hate him but she would never forgive him. Told of all the things he changed that day. Yet she reiterated so many good memories and how she could not ever hate him. But again what he did, holidays, when she sees others with brothers or sisters, and hers were gone, and so on.

Okay. I was wrong. I finished it a bit easier but talking of it now is not so much so. That is the gist.

Mom is up next. It's been a long day. I am going to wait to finish but am going to finish it out, the reason being what the heck happened here?

I will say mom did divorce him, I always wondered if she did so or not, never heard she did so figured and even was thinking she did not.

This was all a hard watch although most of it early on was the legal part of it and deal, etc. so it did not start out that way but then went into the details being put on the record and that's when I knew I was into that.

I am finishing because these boys and mom and sister all should know what they went through and he should NEVER get OUT. And it needs to be told so that he doesn't and it is understood what they went through. To listen to the SD, he was a wonderful dad and that was surprising to me. Great memories, into his kids AND her, she said a lot about how proud he would be of her, her grades this year, other things, etc.

It makes one wonder even more what the heck. I just figured he was a man who was always controlling, there was maybe always issues or problems, etc. but not to listen to her.

The only emotion I ever saw from him was when she was talking and he appeared to be breaking down a bit and crying. For a bit. It didn't last long. It SEEMED real for the time it lasted. And that surprised me.

I debate that she looks at him as a kid would. And maybe there were more problems than she knew....?

I will leave mom's for now because it is a lot heavier sharing the rest than I realized it would be.

I was heading for bed, could not keep my eyes open and now had a bit of a second wind should be in bed. But I would never get to this either if I didn't do it now, I watched the rest some hours ago.

I am going to see it out. Will come back, this actually was enough and heavier to talk of at some other time about mom's statement.

This man changed their world forever that day. And the SD saw every single murder and tried to save every single one after the first which they did not expect but came running before it happened.

The mom though he was going to kill himself... Not the kids.

Okay, that IS enough.

I am going to finish it out though. Almost there. What happened here? And I don't think he had some mental break. Things said seem to indicate otherwise. Mom did not go on about him being a good dad as the SD did. Not sure if that means anything...

Okay. I meant to finish it out but can't. But I will.