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www.nbcnewyork.com

Jeffrey Epstein Confidante Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested on Sex Abuse Charges

Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite and heiress who became a confidante of disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein and was later implicated in his alleged sexual crimes, has been arrested by the FBI. She was arrested in Bradford, New Hampshire, around 8:30 a.m. Thursday on charges she conspired...
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Tresir said:
There is a video interview with the juror in this DM article. Haven't been able to listen to it all yet.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Will rogue juror set Ghislaine Maxwell free? Conviction is in chaos

Juror Scotty David revealed that he has a history of being sexually abused but said that it did not affect his ability to view Maxwell as innocent until proven guilty.
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I just watched that 18+ minute interview and didn't get the impression he persuaded anyone by his personal story. Let me know what you think after you watch it.
 
kdg411 said:
I just watched that 18+ minute interview and didn't get the impression he persuaded anyone by his personal story. Let me know what you think after you watch it.
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Yes I just finished watching it. They appear to have approached the counts one by one. He does mention there were some holdouts ( can't remember exactly how he worded it) but it seemed that they did persuade some, however he doesn't exactly say how. He does mention the video that we didn't get to see and the photos which appear to have had an effect on him and some of the others to help convince. Difficult to comment when we haven't seen it. I wondered if he was the jury spokesperson.
 
DM link with copy of letter from Defence requesting a mistrial.

"But according to Maxwell's attorneys in their latest letter to Federal court Judge Alison Nathan it does not matter whether any omission was intentional or an honest mistake. If it happened at all it is grounds for a mistrial to be called and a new trial convened.

They state, 'The Supreme Court has held that to be entitled to a new trial, "a party must first demonstrate that a juror failed to answer honestly a material question on voir dire, and then further show that a correct response would have provided a valid basis for a challenge for cause."' "

(All letters are in this article)

www.dailymail.co.uk

Attorney General requests probe into Maxwell juror

Scotty David, a juror in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, was one of the 12 men and women who convicted Maxwell on five of the six counts of sex-trafficking.
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Tresir said:
DM link with copy of letter from Defence requesting a mistrial.

"But according to Maxwell's attorneys in their latest letter to Federal court Judge Alison Nathan it does not matter whether any omission was intentional or an honest mistake. If it happened at all it is grounds for a mistrial to be called and a new trial convened.

They state, 'The Supreme Court has held that to be entitled to a new trial, "a party must first demonstrate that a juror failed to answer honestly a material question on voir dire, and then further show that a correct response would have provided a valid basis for a challenge for cause."' "

(All letters are in this article)

www.dailymail.co.uk

Attorney General requests probe into Maxwell juror

Scotty David, a juror in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, was one of the 12 men and women who convicted Maxwell on five of the six counts of sex-trafficking.
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It's reasonable to suggest it could be grounds for a mistrial however I am not a legal subject matter expert & hope that Judge Nathan provides further clarification.

*The Daily Mail reminds me of the National Inquirer, highly suggestive content that isn't necessarily based on actual facts.
 
kdg411 said:
It's reasonable to suggest it could be grounds for a mistrial however I am not a legal subject matter expert & hope that Judge Nathan provides further clarification.

*The Daily Mail reminds me of the National Inquirer, highly suggestive content that isn't necessarily based on actual facts.
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In the article there are copies of the letters that the defence has submitted quoting precedent cases so it may be best just to read those and ignore the article if you don't trust their commentary. They did get the video interview with the juror.

I thought the National Inquirer was like "exclusive - green cheese found on moon"

DM is not as bad as that.
 
Tresir said:
In the article there are copies of the letters that the defence has submitted quoting precedent cases so it may be best just to read those and ignore the article if you don't trust their commentary. They did get the video interview with the juror.

I thought the National Inquirer was like "exclusive - green cheese found on moon"

DM is not as bad as that.
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I'll go back now & check out those letters.
 
This letter is confusing. At first he's stating that they are filing a motion for retrial. Then instructs the Judge not to force the juror to retain counsel. And finally the screenshot above that all jurors be impaneled but not to impeach the verdict? What??

I'm not sure what exactly they are requesting.

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This letter was sent first to the court. It asserts that the juror influenced other jurors. It's not grounds for a mistrial just typical defense tactics used quite often.

I don't know what Judge Nathan will ultimately rule however it's not common for a jury verdict to be nullified. However, that's not to say though that it can't/won't happen.
 
kdg411 said:
This letter is confusing. At first he's stating that they are filing a motion for retrial. Then instructs the Judge not to force the juror to retain counsel. And finally the screenshot above that all jurors be impaneled but not to impeach the verdict? What??

I'm not sure what exactly they are requesting.

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This letter was sent first to the court. It asserts that the juror influenced other jurors. It's not grounds for a mistrial just typical defense tactics used quite often.

I don't know what Judge Nathan will ultimately rule however it's not common for a jury verdict to be nullified. However, that's not to say though that it can't/won't happen.
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There are three letters altogether, (accessible from clicking on the document at the beginning of the article in the image gallery and paging thru.) The one you quote, then one requesting a mistrial and a third letter from the AG requesting a review. The one requesting a mistrial states that should be done first rather than a hearing. Not sure what will happen as I don't suppose all of these things would happen together. Maybe the AG review would happen first or the mistrial would, not sure but I guess Judge Nathan will deal with it. What a mess - and in the meantime Maxwell is still in jail. They should release her with an electronic tag and take away her three passports, in my opinion, as I cannot now see how she will ever get a fair trial after all this and the Prince Andrew stuff. It could go on forever. I saw today that Scott Borgerson phoned her in jail, several days ago, ending their marriage as he has met someone else. Will post the link. It never rains but it pours huh?

www.gbnews.uk

Ghislaine Maxwell's husband Scott Borgerson ended marriage with jail phone call says report

Scott Borgerson, 46, married Maxwell secretly in 2016 after he left his first wife and mother of his two children.
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Tresir said:
There are three letters altogether, (accessible from clicking on the document at the beginning of the article in the image gallery and paging thru.) The one you quote, then one requesting a mistrial and a third letter from the AG requesting a review. The one requesting a mistrial states that should be done first rather than a hearing. Not sure what will happen as I don't suppose all of these things would happen together. Maybe the AG review would happen first or the mistrial would, not sure but I guess Judge Nathan will deal with it. What a mess - and in the meantime Maxwell is still in jail. They should release her with an electronic tag and take away her three passports, in my opinion, as I cannot now see how she will ever get a fair trial after all this and the Prince Andrew stuff. It could go on forever. I saw today that Scott Borgerson wrote to her ending their marriage as he has met someone else. Will post the link. It never rains but it pours huh?
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This case is a mess, to put it nicely.

There will be little chance Ghislaine will be released on bail. Especially since her soon to be ex (Borgeson) cannot lobby for her physical whereabouts. There are many people in prison waiting years for their trial and she is no exception.

My head hurts reading all of this and all the while we're still waiting for the Judge to determine if Virginia's case against Andrew can proceed. I'm hoping tomorrow we'll get an update on the latter while Judge Nathan figures out this Maxwell mess.
 
kdg411 said:
This case is a mess, to put it nicely.

There will be little chance Ghislaine will be released on bail. Especially since her soon to be ex (Borgeson) cannot lobby for her physical whereabouts. There are many people in prison waiting years for their trial and she is no exception.

My head hurts reading all of this and all the while we're still waiting for the Judge to determine if Virginia's case against Andrew can proceed. I'm hoping tomorrow we'll get an update on the latter while Judge Nathan figures out this Maxwell mess.
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I agree it is a mess. This article states
"Judge Nathan has replied, setting a schedule for the defence to "move for a new trial in light of the issues raised".

The defence motion has been set for 19 January, while the government's response will be on 2 February. The defence will reply on 9 February.

Judge Nathan said the court "reserves decision on whether an inquiry of any kind is warranted". "

news.sky.com

Ghislaine Maxwell trial: Defence calls for retrial after juror says he was a 'victim of sexual abuse'

The socialite's lawyers say the juror "told reporters that he disclosed to the other members of the jury during deliberations that he was a victim of sexual abuse and further described his memory of those events".
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Tresir said:
Latest on the juror is that he answered "no" to the question about sexual abuse. Daily Mail and the Telegraph are reporting this.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Ghislaine Maxwell juror 'told court he was NOT sexual assault victim'

The jailed socialite is hoping for a retrial in her sex trafficking case after juror 'Scotty David' revealed he told the jury about his own abuse as a child during deliberations.
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How would anyone know what this juror selected since those questionnaires are under seal?
 
kdg411 said:
How would anyone know what this juror selected since those questionnaires are under seal?
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It was a reputable source apparently. I have another source also.

Marta Dhanis
@MartaDhanis

SCOOP: Ghislaine Maxwell juror who’s the cause of Maxwell’s bid for new trial lied during the selection process when he said that he was not a victim of sexual abuse in the jury questionnaire, a source familiar with the case tells me. Story tk
 
RoundPeg said:
Has anyone ever served on a jury? While I just read this case for the most part, I feel like this juror in question all but testified for the prosecution. Is this normal?
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I have never served on a jury. In the UK I believe jurors remain anonymous and cannot speak about the case afterwards. A judge can also accept a majority verdict if the jury cannot come to a unanimous verdict.
 
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