Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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Published June 27, 2023 5:39pm EDT
By Michael Ruiz , Jake Karalexis | Fox News

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However, before addressing the motions, District Judge John Judge clarified some questions regarding his revised gag order in the case and warned the media that he could revoke permission to allow cameras into the courtroom.

Judge referenced the recent Chad Daybell trial, when cameras were asked to leave because they focused too much on the defendant.

He said cameras in Moscow needed to show a wide shot of the courtroom and not focus strictly on Kohberger if they are to remain throughout the rest of the proceedings.
There has been no Chad Daybell trial so what is he talking of?
 

I'm not falling for this. Too vague. If even true, there could be many reasons for it. And is it true? I thought this defense attorney had oodles of discovery to wade through. And is all testing done? Not to mention there were weeks in between the murders and arrest.

We have a criminology major or whatever here. And imo these murders were likely planned.

Gag orders are funny. I mean there is a gag order. Can the prosecution respond publicly to this because the defense sure got it in the news by "filing" it didn't they?

They may not stick with it but hopefully will--the pros just announced they are going for the DP. Seems to me they feel the case is solid enough to pursue that.

I'm taking a wait and see on this and this claim by the defense doesn't rattle me a bit. I kind of feel in fact that that is what it is meant to do... I think the request to wait for filing a claim of an alibi is similar defense/Brian tactics.
 
OK I concede. Just show the camera on the person who’s talking. I want cameras in the court room!
What are you conceding? Did you formerly not want cameras?

I think cameras should be ordered to ALWAYS be in the courtroom. I am not saying all necessarily need to be live but there should be a record of EVERY court proceeding, a VIDEO RECORD, for transparency, later dissemination and easy determination if something wrong was done, etc. I will NEVER waiver from this belief.
 
What are you conceding? Did you formerly not want cameras?

I think cameras should be ordered to ALWAYS be in the courtroom. I am not saying all necessarily need to be live but there should be a record of EVERY court proceeding, a VIDEO RECORD, for transparency, later dissemination and easy determination if something wrong was done, etc. I will NEVER waiver from this belief.
I’m saying that it’s fine if they don’t have the camera on of BK all the time. Actually, I really don’t want to see his face.
 

Idaho college killings suspect was first arrested in 2014, records show​

Nine years before he was accused of killing four college students in Idaho, Bryan Kohberger was arrested in his native Pennsylvania and charged with misdemeanor theft for allegedly stealing his sister's iPhone, according to records reviewed by ABC News.

It was Kohberger's father, Michael, who reported the incident to police, according to the court records.

According to the records, Michael Kohberger told law enforcement Bryan had warned him "not to do anything stupid" after learning his son had taken the phone, adding that his son had struggled with drug addiction.

Bryan Kohberger's earlier run-in with the law, as described in these records, is only now coming to light, as he prepares to defend himself against charges he killed four University of Idaho students last fall.

According to the records, Bryan Kohberger was 19 years old when he was arrested for the alleged theft in 2014. He served no jail time, according to officials. There is now no public record of that arrest or the outcome of the case.

Monroe County, Pennsylvania, offers first-time offenders the opportunity to enter into a pretrial program called "Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition," which allows for charges to be dropped and the record to be "expunged" once the accused successfully completes probation.

Martin Souto Diaz, an attorney representing the Kohberger family, declined to comment on the record describing the earlier arrest. The district attorney's office in Monroe County also had no comment.
 

Family of University of Idaho victim applauds Kohberger death penalty decision; concerned over plans to destroy home of slayings​

The family of Kaylee Goncalves, one of the four University of Idaho students killed last year, supports the decision to seek the death penalty against defendant Bryan Kohberger. But, the family is concerned about plans the school has to demolish the home that was the scene of the quadruple homicide.


Gray spoke with Law&Crime this week after Judge John Judge revised an amended non-dissemination order the state and prosecution agreed to earlier this year. A coalition of media outlets, including Law&Crime, challenged the non-dissemination order as being overly broad and unclear.

Judge Judge loosened restrictions on the order and clarified it. Attorneys involved in the case can speak as long as they don’t make statements deemed prejudicial. Gray also challenged the order but lost his request to be exempt from it. He said he plans to appeal the judge’s ruling.



Following the homicides last November, the off-campus home at 1122 King Road became a crime scene. Idaho State Police processed the home for evidence and guarded it 24 hours a day. On Dec. 30, the day Moscow Police announced Kohberger’s arrest, the home was nearly released to the property owner. That plan was halted when the court ordered that the house be preserved at the request of Kohberger’s defense team.

Since that time, the prosecution and the defense have stated they no longer need access to the home. Ownership of it has been transferred to the University of Idaho and the school plans to demolish the three-story home, which isn’t sitting well with the Goncalves family.

“We have made it very clear to the University of Idaho that we do not want that house to be demolished and they are ignoring us completely,” Gray said. “When I say ignoring us, I mean that they respond and say, ‘We understand what you’re saying but basically tough cookie. We’re going to go ahead forward with it because they say that it’s for the good of the community and good for the University Of Idaho.’”

The Goncalveses have found some comfort in caring for Kaylee’s siblings and welcoming a new grandchild into the family. They’re looking toward the trial and getting answers about what happened last November, according to Gray. But, they are concerned about the plan to raze the crime scene.

“A lot of things I think are important about that home,” Gray said. “There’s sights and sounds and viewpoints and angles. It’s an odd-shaped house.”

Because of the home’s odd layout and its proximity to other homes, Gray believes being inside the house could aid the jury in seeing how someone could hear things in and around it – or not.
 
I like watching the people testifying more than I want to look at the defendant.
In a perfect world if I had what I wanted, i want to of course see the person testifying at all times but I like it when they also have another camera or two showing the defendant at times or all times and the judge when speaking, etc. I think the best view of the trial, the feeling of how it is going and the mood of the room, etc. is when one can get the full picture or as much of it as possible.
 

Family of University of Idaho victim applauds Kohberger death penalty decision; concerned over plans to destroy home of slayings​

The family of Kaylee Goncalves, one of the four University of Idaho students killed last year, supports the decision to seek the death penalty against defendant Bryan Kohberger. But, the family is concerned about plans the school has to demolish the home that was the scene of the quadruple homicide.


Gray spoke with Law&Crime this week after Judge John Judge revised an amended non-dissemination order the state and prosecution agreed to earlier this year. A coalition of media outlets, including Law&Crime, challenged the non-dissemination order as being overly broad and unclear.

Judge Judge loosened restrictions on the order and clarified it. Attorneys involved in the case can speak as long as they don’t make statements deemed prejudicial. Gray also challenged the order but lost his request to be exempt from it. He said he plans to appeal the judge’s ruling.



Following the homicides last November, the off-campus home at 1122 King Road became a crime scene. Idaho State Police processed the home for evidence and guarded it 24 hours a day. On Dec. 30, the day Moscow Police announced Kohberger’s arrest, the home was nearly released to the property owner. That plan was halted when the court ordered that the house be preserved at the request of Kohberger’s defense team.

Since that time, the prosecution and the defense have stated they no longer need access to the home. Ownership of it has been transferred to the University of Idaho and the school plans to demolish the three-story home, which isn’t sitting well with the Goncalves family.

“We have made it very clear to the University of Idaho that we do not want that house to be demolished and they are ignoring us completely,” Gray said. “When I say ignoring us, I mean that they respond and say, ‘We understand what you’re saying but basically tough cookie. We’re going to go ahead forward with it because they say that it’s for the good of the community and good for the University Of Idaho.’”

The Goncalveses have found some comfort in caring for Kaylee’s siblings and welcoming a new grandchild into the family. They’re looking toward the trial and getting answers about what happened last November, according to Gray. But, they are concerned about the plan to raze the crime scene.

“A lot of things I think are important about that home,” Gray said. “There’s sights and sounds and viewpoints and angles. It’s an odd-shaped house.”

Because of the home’s odd layout and its proximity to other homes, Gray believes being inside the house could aid the jury in seeing how someone could hear things in and around it – or not.
I agree with the Goncalves family on this one. There is no reason to raze the home until trial is over in this case. It isn't something the university owned prior and viewing it could possibly be important in trial. I myself, and I think all of us, try to understand the view points, how he came and went through the home and what could be heard, not heard, etc. and why he managed it all as well as how he knew what and where and how to navigate the home. I think it is important for the view of the neighbor's security cam, etc.

The U needs to STOP.

In Murdaugh, viewing Moselle really gave jurors an understanding of distances and lay out from what we've heard. What did make sense and didn't.
 

Idaho college killings suspect was first arrested in 2014, records show​

Nine years before he was accused of killing four college students in Idaho, Bryan Kohberger was arrested in his native Pennsylvania and charged with misdemeanor theft for allegedly stealing his sister's iPhone, according to records reviewed by ABC News.

It was Kohberger's father, Michael, who reported the incident to police, according to the court records.

According to the records, Michael Kohberger told law enforcement Bryan had warned him "not to do anything stupid" after learning his son had taken the phone, adding that his son had struggled with drug addiction.

Bryan Kohberger's earlier run-in with the law, as described in these records, is only now coming to light, as he prepares to defend himself against charges he killed four University of Idaho students last fall.

According to the records, Bryan Kohberger was 19 years old when he was arrested for the alleged theft in 2014. He served no jail time, according to officials. There is now no public record of that arrest or the outcome of the case.

Monroe County, Pennsylvania, offers first-time offenders the opportunity to enter into a pretrial program called "Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition," which allows for charges to be dropped and the record to be "expunged" once the accused successfully completes probation.

Martin Souto Diaz, an attorney representing the Kohberger family, declined to comment on the record describing the earlier arrest. The district attorney's office in Monroe County also had no comment.
This sounds like a something a family would do in order to get their kid to straighten up and stop taking drugs.
 
This sounds like a something a family would do in order to get their kid to straighten up and stop taking drugs.
Yes. It sounds like they were trying to teach him a lesson. It also shows this family likely dealt and has dealt for a long time with issues with Brian. It also stands out that at Christmas wasn't it when he got back to PA, etc., at least one sister felt he had something to do with the murders and remarked on his white Hyundai etc. and dad didn't believe it or want to. The family searched the car if we were told correctly.

it kind of stands out here that the phone he stole was his sister's. Kids often see things adults don't. Yet dad did have charges filed. Sister probably had had it with him and wanted something done is my guess too.

It also leas me to believe Brian was not a good brother and felt no guilt over taking from and hurting the FEMALES in his family very possibly... I don't know if it means anything either but it was dad that went to ID to drive back to PA with him, any reason mom didn't go too? I have no idea. Just some thoughts.
 

Brian Kohberger defense team granted access to officer training records​

Lawyers for Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger won a small victory this week when a judge granted his request to access training records of three police officers involved in the investigation of the murders of four University of Idaho students.

The defense team argued that they wanted to understand the methods the officers utilized, citing their critical role in the probe against their client, News Idaho 6 reported.

Bryan Kohberger: Accused Idaho Killer Gets Access to Police Training Records​

Accused murderer Bryan Kohberger’s lawyers have obtained access to the training records of three police officers involved in the University of Idaho murders case.

Latah County District Judge John Judge authorized the legal team’s request, granting them permission to review the records. The judge wrote that the police training records are possibly pertinent to “challenge the credibility of the officers and the reliability of their methods.”

Kootenai County public defender Anne Taylor successfully presented the defense team’s argument last week, emphasizing the importance of understanding the methods utilized by the officers. The defense team cited the officers’ critical role in the investigation against Kohberger, according to Moscow-Pullman Daily News.


One of the officers conducted witness interviews at the scene and helped search for the vehicle associated with the crime. Another officer interviewed witnesses who will likely provide testimony during Kohberger’s trial.

The third officer reportedly attended the autopsies of the victims and played a role in determining which leads to pursue in the case.https://www.crimeonline.com/author/legan/
 

Brian Kohberger defense team granted access to officer training records​

Lawyers for Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger won a small victory this week when a judge granted his request to access training records of three police officers involved in the investigation of the murders of four University of Idaho students.

The defense team argued that they wanted to understand the methods the officers utilized, citing their critical role in the probe against their client, News Idaho 6 reported.

Bryan Kohberger: Accused Idaho Killer Gets Access to Police Training Records​

Accused murderer Bryan Kohberger’s lawyers have obtained access to the training records of three police officers involved in the University of Idaho murders case.

Latah County District Judge John Judge authorized the legal team’s request, granting them permission to review the records. The judge wrote that the police training records are possibly pertinent to “challenge the credibility of the officers and the reliability of their methods.”

Kootenai County public defender Anne Taylor successfully presented the defense team’s argument last week, emphasizing the importance of understanding the methods utilized by the officers. The defense team cited the officers’ critical role in the investigation against Kohberger, according to Moscow-Pullman Daily News.


One of the officers conducted witness interviews at the scene and helped search for the vehicle associated with the crime. Another officer interviewed witnesses who will likely provide testimony during Kohberger’s trial.

The third officer reportedly attended the autopsies of the victims and played a role in determining which leads to pursue in the case.Posts by: Leigh Egan
Funny how the headline just gives the part about the defense getting training records. The prosecution had some wins as well but no mention of that in the headlines. The training records are the only thing the defense "won" on and I don't see it as a big deal but I'm sure they hope to find something in them to make it one, per any defense when the client has a lot against him.
 
BL has been educated in criminology and is probably proud that he knows to ask for officer training information. There’s something very creepy about it.
It's possibly him but I gather she gave a good argument for it too and it sure would be a good defense laywer's route as well. Although clearly he thinks little of LE, he applied and offered to help them in what they lacked or thought he could bring to them with his skills lol.

Personally I think the dept. did a pretty good job and they got him. I do worry about just one thing that isn't a hundred percent clear to me but I think it's nothing and I'm not going to voice it online. Just something I wonder a bit about.
 

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