MO JOHN FORSYTH: Missing from Cassville, MO - 21 May 2023 - Age 49 *Found Deceased*

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Authorities search for Missouri doctor who has been missing more than a week​

Authorities in a small Missouri town are searching for an emergency room physician a week-and-a-half after his mysterious disappearance.

Dr. John Forsyth, 49, was last heard from May 21. Police said he was reported missing when he failed to show up for work that day at Mercy Hospital in Cassville, a town of 3,100 residents deep in the Missouri Ozarks.

Forsyth’s black Infiniti was found in a remote area near an aquatic park in Cassville. The car was unlocked with his wallet, two phones and a laptop inside.

Several law enforcement agencies, including the Missouri State Highway Patrol, have joined in the search using people, dogs and drones. Forsyth’s family set up a Facebook page seeking information.

Richard Forsyth said his brother had been at the Cassville hospital for about 15 years. He described John Forsyth as a doting father who became engaged to his girlfriend just a couple of days before he disappeared.
 
I’ve never heard of someone staging the suicide before. is it because the person doesn’t want people to think they took the easy way out? The stigma of suicide? I thought they were so despondent that they wouldn’t care what anybody thinks.
 
Well if I read it, it would have been from a news article and very early on but since it's hard for me to believe that wouldn't recall it, I think I probably just imagined it, lol! I will say that for me, how he got there was never an issue- I just thought it was possible he did and left it at that, which actually could be why I'd forget that info....

Sorry I wasn't clear. By staged suicide, I mean suicide staged to look like something else.
I figured that was what you meant by staged but wanted to just be sure.

It did matter to me how he got there. if in a car with someone else, then less likely suicide. If on a bike alone, more likely suicide. Etc.
 
I’ve never heard of someone staging the suicide before. is it because the person doesn’t want people to think they took the easy way out? The stigma of suicide? I thought they were so despondent that they wouldn’t care what anybody thinks.
Well there used to be suicide clauses in most life insurance polcies for one if they commit suicide, they wouldn't pay out so one reason is to ensure the remaining loved ones get the money. Another yes would be the stigma or not wanting say mom and dad to live with knowing you took your own life and so on.
 
I’ve never heard of someone staging the suicide before. is it because the person doesn’t want people to think they took the easy way out? The stigma of suicide? I thought they were so despondent that they wouldn’t care what anybody thinks.
Yeah, there are several different reasons but for those whose death did occur, obviously, we can really only presume the reason why.
From what I understand, what researchers have learned about many circumstances surrounding suicide is primarily from those who've survived the attempt.
In this case, it looks to me like John- for what ever reason- wanted the question of what happened to him to be a mystery.
 
I’ve never heard of someone staging the suicide before. is it because the person doesn’t want people to think they took the easy way out? The stigma of suicide? I thought they were so despondent that they wouldn’t care what anybody thinks.
I would say that might depend on the reason why they felt that was the answer. Had they been lying about things in their life to where this was their way of not having to admit they were lying and hope nobody found out the truth?
 
Yeah, there are several different reasons but for those whose death did occur, obviously, we can really only presume the reason why.
From what I understand, what researchers have learned about many circumstances surrounding suicide is primarily from those who've survived the attempt.
In this case, it looks to me like John- for what ever reason- wanted the question of what happened to him to be a mystery.
I can agree with that, or it as at least one of my thoughts, not sold on it. It does fit with why not drive yourself all the way to your suicide destination rather than bike some arduous long trek (which I am not sold on her did though).

He seems to come from a type of family no offense to them but he and brother too types that I certainly do not understand. The philosophical thing was brought up a lot by bro. You ever want to sea very good recorded court trial that no one I know of on this site has ever heard of that is a lot Jodi Arias site and ALL streamed and recorded in my own state I NEVER even heard of and many of the ones in he case were "college' students being deep thinkers and spending most of their time at coffee shops, etc... Philosophy and the trendiness. It kind of fails me. It was one HECK of an interesting watch. Sooo Arias like not as to religion but as to the murder, and the experts or supposed experts on her, etc.

An hour from where I grew up and I freaking never KNEW of the case and ran into it covered on Court TV one day.

Anyhow it involved a lot younger than John here and all this philosophy thing.

I need to shower and have a less than 10 hour turnaround of back to work more like 8 with wake time etc. so am not on the ball here.

But what I am trying to say all the stuff his brother said and was said about John is NOT anyone I can identify with. Or as to how they were maybe raised, or what they think and even the Bitcoin ting or what the family was like. It is not a knock it is just so alien to me.

Sounds like a lot of cases with pie in the sky dreams. I don't know! Yet he was a doctor and completed college?

The whole thing is weird and I think the family dynamic is too. The whole kidnapping thing whether brother's claims or John's? WEIRD to me. Drama, drama, drama. I don't know the truth of it but I am sorry the bro is weird too.

It resonates with cases like Daybell maybe he killed no one here but a certain raising and way or they got it in school or something.

John had HOW many kids.... Another and another with someone else.

I don't have trouble believing suicide, I just need them to show all the facts as to why sure.

My ramble for the night. Sorry.
 
I was only not sure of suicide because of the missing info of how he got there. This info would have totally changed my mind into being pretty convinced.

The bike might have been an electric bike or he would have to be an avid bike rider to ride from Cassville to the lake. There also would have been plenty of people seeing him since it was the week before memorial Day and people preparing for the holiday. A very busy lake holiday.
Definitely convinced now that he had to have a professional grade performance bike of some sort to even be able to do this ride. We were just on the road he had to have taken and key me tell you, this road is brutal just driving with a truck. He had to have so many drivers irate at him and it was the busiest time for lake traffic with people pulling boats and trailers on these roads. We were laughing at his much the curvy road warning signs it had with all the swiggles on them. Fun roads to drive if you didn't have traffic though. Beautiful area and so so so many hills and curves. Man, he sure was determined is all I can say.
 
These roads even have switchbacks and steep grade warnings.
Well I really don't get it then. However, if he was a major biker and athlete perhaps. I have a niece that is and she does triathalons and things, is that the one where you like bike, swim, run for miles on end, etc.? I may have the name wrong. She has very expensive bikes and I thinks he could do such but maybe not, I can only imagine the terrain you are talking of.

And who takes a strenuous bike ride to go commit suicide? So he hauled the bike, parked the car and got on the bike. One would think the brother would have known the bike was missing although maybe LE never shared that part but one would think brother would know John had one and did a lot of biking and had a major bike.

He'd have had to have taken the gun on the bike. Was this place special somehow? WHY bike to it anyhow, he HAD the car. He coudln't seriously think he'd never be found imo because he was. It's either really fishy and not a suicide or he wanted to leave a mystery? But in a way it is not a mystery. Man drives and parks car, gets out bike. Bikes for miles and that's who he got there and killed self. Seemingly planned if he took the gun HOWEVER maybe he took one for safety and when he got to where he was going he then decided to kill self. Doubtful, probably planned the way it all looks.

IF it is suicide.

I can't recall, we don't know that they found the gun do we, HAVE they? and was it HIS?

He was found in the water right? Also weird or not something one hears of much, shooting oneself/suicide going out into the water. Did he think perhaps people would think murder? One wouldn't think so if they found HIS gun.

I keep thinking even though it's changed some, it used to be almost all life insurance policies would not pay out on suicides. Some do and some don't these days I believe but many probably still exist that don't. I believe.

He had how many kids and with the main family/ex was just ordered to pay bucco bucks in support, etc. I don't care what his brother said, the man one time acts like he knows how well off John was and how much he made at work and this and that then on the next hand seems not to know sh*t. Sorry to him, he lost a brother, but just saying. None of us know every single facet of a sibling's life and especially if they want to hide something. I also can't help but wonder if he really wanted to get married and didn't feel pressured and another kid on the way, etc. I mean he wasn't that happy if he could do this. Recently engaged. And then if you break off the relationship, there's another support battle or at least he'd be ordered to pay for that child too.

It probably was suicide but I think lots of questions remain to be answered. And I do think if it was, he was maybe hoping SOMEHOW it would be thought to be murder for insurance purposes? The gun would be one thing that would give more than one answer imo. Do we know a thing about the gun and did they find it? I seem to recall they never did or if they did have never said so. We didn't know about the bike either.

It isn't impossible someone else still could have did this but it would mean they knew of the bike (and maybe he kept it in the car), forced him to get into his own car and drive them or he met with them. But they'd have had to have taken him and the bike OUT of his car and drive him to this lake area with another vehicle, shoot him and stage the bike. They need to find the gun.

That scenario seems very unlikely but your description of this route also sounds daunting. When did the man even get time to bike. Again to listen to his brother all he did was work and then had all these kids too. And a pregnant gf, etc.

And perhaps he never meant to hide anything and just picked this bike ride, this spot and this way to suicide.

It seems most likely having talked it out as I haven't had time to really do that and think it out that it is suicide IF the bike his his and can be proven and if the gun is found and is also his. Assuming it was one shot of course to the side of the head most likely?

The whole thing about the kidnapping and the Bitcoin and such I still have to wonder at. He may simply have been drama filled when needing out of something and a story. And of course it is known of by almost no one except for one, the brother. The kidnapping I mean. He also made that statement or two to his brother that did sound as if he was thinking of if he died... And brother imo wanted to make it know or point out he said he was to be in charge of whatever but I'm almost going to guess that was not set up and may be why he was pushing that. Top things off with they had had investors mad at them and more.

I wonder if they did any tox on him. They should have. And what the results were. I mean there are some drugs if you want some burst to bike mountains (hills or whatever)...

I'm sorry for his family/ies/kids, parents, brother, etc. I'd think they expect more answers though because I know I do.
 
That sure would have answered a LOT of questions at the beginning. Sheesh.

Whew! That's one hella ride on a bike! Not just the distance but it's very hilly and twisty turney roads.
Just another example of the roads near that lake. It was probably ok-ish while he was in Missouri but nearly as soon as you hit Arkansas, the roads get crazy and everywhere I have been on the northern edge of Beaver Lake is just like this. This part sight also have the steep grade warnings. I'm just not sure exactly what part of the lake he was found in but this is what you find on any of the roads getting there from cassville. Once you clear the curves on a sign, there's another one waiting for you. Zoom in on it and see how the road disappears and then reappears because just looking at it, it doesn't look as crazy. It takes about 20 minutes to go 5 miles away.20240828_113433.jpg
 
I just can't quite thinking about how manic he must have been riding his bike there, especially right before memorial Day weekend.
 
You can reply or not, but asking so where you are at with this and what you think happened?

I'm finding it hard to buy myself and your description adds to that. They haven't given enough info to satisfy me by a long shot. And it took them FOREVER and a day to provide a determination and then without much explanation.
 
You can reply or not, but asking so where you are at with this and what you think happened?

I'm finding it hard to buy myself and your description adds to that. They haven't given enough info to satisfy me by a long shot. And it took them FOREVER and a day to provide a determination and then without much explanation.
They have video proof of him riding his bike there all song the way. After that I have no idea except he was found shot in the lake. My response is only in regards to his riding his bike there. That's all.
 
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They have video proof of him riding his bike there ask song the way. After that I have no idea except he was going shot in the lake. My response is only in regards to his riding his bike there. That's all.
I don't know if I knew of the video proof or forgot it, which isn't unusual these days.

So he did ride his bike there whether by choice or whatever or wherever his brain was and why, we may never know is I guess the take we have to have on that.

Was it to hide and hope I would never be figured out, was it to clear his head hoping an intense bike ride (going by your description of the roads) would help, was it some sort of one last self punishment or test... It's all so ODD.

And I guess outside of all that someone may have made him, threatened him or family or someone just happened to be there to shoot him, but all of that seems somewhat far fetched. However, so does his mode of suicide...

The brother's strange stories did not help as to outside thoughts and this weird way of offing oneself did not either.

It isn't hard to believe suicide generally as a lot of indicators were there... Or at least a lot of things in life coming down on him... And some statements made, etc.

Just can't quite understand the way of it or why. Just hoped maybe to have it a mystery and perhaps did not want it known. NO IDEA, a bit frustrating really.

And did they find the weapon? I think I asked that back some time ago...

If he was actually seen on his bike en route on video then apparently he was capable of riding such no?

I wonder if they toxed him...

So anyhow, this was a very odd case and it crosses my mind frequently still. It's still without imo all the answers. Not that in all cases re all answers ever found.
 

Investigators believe Cassville, Mo., doctor staged his death; family refutes findings​

There is a renewed effort to find the truth.

The family of Cassville doctor John Forsyth says that despite the medical examiner determining his death to be suicide. They believe that his killer is still out there.

The medical examiner released his final report a few months ago and with it more questions about Dr. Forsyth’s death. His family recently launched a series of videos on social media questioning the findings. They declined to speak to us about it on camera.

However, the Benton County prosecutor tells us the case is closed at least for now.

“There are many, many unusual things about this case,” said Benton County Arkansas prosecuting attorney Josh Robinson.


“Probably the best way to sum it up without putting words in the mouths of the investigators is that there simply was not enough evidence that pointed to ‘A’ a homicide and ‘B’ the perpetrator of that homicide,” he said.

According to the medical examiner’s report, Forsyth was found with 2 pieces of duct tape over his mouth and no signs of a struggle.

“The crime scene, the state of the body, certainly appear to be staged. If not a homicide it appears to be staged,” said Robinson. “Frankly, even if it were a homicide there are some peculiarities about how the body was found.”

Detectives did, at one point, question Forsyth’s brother, Richard about his death. Our Elizabeth Van Metre spoke to him about it last fall.

“I have nothing to hide. I’m not nervous or questions or what the investigation may reveal regarding me. I am anxious that the investigation uncover the truth about what happened to my brother, who did this to him, and why. But I know what the truth is. I have played no part in any of this,” said Richard Forsyth.

The sheriff’s office has closed the case after the medical examiner found that Forsyth was responsible for his own death.

“It would not shock me if sometime down the road some new information came out that told us it was a homicide, that gave us evidence to proceed. Right now we have a medical examiner determining it to be a suicide,” said Robinson.

Though he says anything can change at any time with this case.

“Just like with any closed investigation if new evidence presents itself that shows a different conclusion that investigation can be reopened and I would expect that it would be in this case,” he said.
 
My main question with the suicide by gunshot is where is the gun? He couldn't have went out very deep to do it and like I have said, it was the week before memorial Day weekend so the place was bustling with people. I'm not sure how a gunshot that close to the shore, at it would have to have been, wouldn't have been noticed.

He supposedly rode his bike at least 35 miles there. How did he plan on getting back? That would be at least another 35 miles... on a bike, unless he had planned on meeting somebody there or wasn't needing one because he had no plans on coming back??? This is the only part that makes me believe it was a possible suicide and his life was chaos so ...???
 
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That's an interesting article in the sense that they only say it is suicide pretty much because they can't say it's homicide. I KNOW where I lean. The article is also FULL of there are many peculiarities about the case. Well no sh*t. Seems to me most of the sending everyone one way or another came from his brother. Just saying...

But even without that, there's so much odd about it. So now he parked his car, rode a bike through the hills to commit suicide, apparently brought along duct tape now to tape his own mouth and stage his own suicide, nothing about the gun found....

Yet it's closed unless something else comes up...

I'll only say the brother was over the top and over involved from the beginning and claimed to have so much knowledge about every detail of John's life...They had a failing business and Bitcoin thing they were getting sh*t over... He claims John was allegedly kidnapped before....

WEIRD. WEIRD. WEIRD. They are what is the word, philanthropists...

He claimed to know all about his finanicail situation but then claimed he really didn't...

Never seen a suicide like it.

And I'm not saying the brother is guilty either but there's plenty of reason to wonder about this case...

PLENTY.

And he's been front and center but now quiet...
 

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