JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

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Well seems like it was a mystery. I will just have to Google a bit LOL.

Will Lori testify in Chad's trial? He didn't in hers AFAIK. Are they considered co-conspirators so are not able to testify or did they choose spousal privilege so as not to testify?

Anyone know?
I'd recommend watching it and hearing Boyce etc. One I linked above was almost only it and little else. I said which one. I think one afterwards of Linda's?

I don't see Lori testifying. I can't imagine the prosecution would want her although I am sure they'd love a go at her but she would only try to help Chad. As far as defense well that's a tougher one. Not sure on the laws on all of it and it is clear ID law is a lot different on a lot of things than some states so I couldn't tell you.

I can't really see them wanting her either BUT perhaps but then she'd be subject to cross....

If I had to guess I would doubt we'd see her but then this is an all out death penalty case against Chad so maybe Prior would go all out if he felt it necessary and subpoena her...?
 
You can't claim spousal privilege regarding cases involving minors. I wonder if she's on any witness lists?
I don't know if they've been seen have they? Anyone know? I know Nate covered in Lori's there were something like 59 or i61 and he was comparing it to he number here but can't recall if he actually could see a list or knew the number or was guessing how many different would be at Chad's and had no info. My memory can recall Chad taking JJ upstairs way back and a witchy photo but can't recall this lol. It is hit and miss and I guess depends on what I think important to retain in all these cases and so much sh*t. I hope anyhow that is all it is.
 
I think she would be a terrible witness for either side!
yeah I don't think she'd likely help either. she'd try to help Chad, his Storm would get a boner and it would be case over. Forgive my crassness lol.

I think she'd be in hot water very quickly though seriously. She'd attempt to help but be caught out in short order. She's a great liar and schmoozer but would think her out of practice but who knows.... The woman has never been interrogated EVER where she was faced with cold hard facts has she?
 
Comments think Prior put him up to it or he filed it when he was drunk Friday night.



Sounded like a drunken thing but he claimed he was just upset and nervous and it mattered to him. AGain, worth a watch.

HE said Prior called him or on him for help. Don't know that Prior confirms this though. That part is gray...
 
I see little live but saw a lot yesterday or fair amount and did see that. Could well have been a drunk or drugged up thing but also could be an intentional last minute thing to derail and help someone or an attempt to. The guy said Prior called him I believe for help or called upon him to help, I think the first. God knows after watching it four to five times I should know. So even though we still dont' know all, there are some nuggets in it.

Both come across as complete dufuses in my opinion everything and too much was an error using a template but put down his bar # but wasn't filing as an attorney, etc., etc.

Some won't like this next remark but they remarinded me of B & R in Delphi. Lol.

Not at anyone it just honestly was how I saw it.
 

Friday 19th update.

LIVE UPDATES FROM THE CHAD DAYBELL TRIAL

Excuse the typos – these are live updates from the courtroom
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11:58 a.m. Boyce suggests we break for the day until Monday. Court is now adjourned. I’ll break it all down tonight on “Courtroom Insider.” Join me live at 6:30 p.m. MT. on the EastIdahoNews.com YouTube channel or my Facebook page.

11:53 a.m. Messages from July 28. Lori to Chad: “R u mad? Sad? What?” Chad to Lori, “I’m doing okay. Just no privacy here to hardly text, and I’m missing you immensely. I feel good about the trip.” Lori to Chad: “I need a distraction while I’m waiting for you! I love you!” Chad to Lori: “Absolutely. I think you’ll have a fun time!” Hart says Lori was going to take a trip with Alex and Melani Boudreaux to Southern California.
11:52 a.m. Chad shows little emotion in the courtroom as these text messages are read. He occasionally writes a few things on a notepad in front of him. The jurors are focused – some taking notes, others reading the messages on the screens in front of them.
11:49 a.m. Chad texts Lori on July 26. “I’m home. Missing you immensely and feeling very tired, but I had a splendid time with you, my love! I will text again soon.” An hour later, Chad texts, “Tonight I figured out who I feel like. I’m a grown-up version of Harry Potter, who has to live with the Dudleys in his little space under the stairs. Every few weeks I get to escape and have amazing adventures with my Goddess lover, but then I have to return to my place under the stairs, feeling trapped. But I sense permanent freedom is coming!”
11:46 a.m. Texts on July 22. Chad to Lori: “Love you. going with Garth in an hour to see ‘The Other Side of Heaven 2.’ Missing you desperately, but so excited to be with you. Lori to Chad: “I love you. U will enjoy the scenery…looks like Kauai a lot!” Lori to Chad: “Hopefully we will be there some day soon together!”He responds, “That is the plan! And my greatest desire.” After the movie, Chad texts, “Hi darling, Back from the movie. We enjoyed it! I look forward to being on a tropical island with you!”
11:44 a.m. Hart says Chad and Lori had a clear plan to be with each other together and forever. They were both begging God for that to happen, Hart says. Tammy Daybell was alive when these messages are exchanged. Blake asks if there was ever any indication of Chad planning to get divorced or separated. Hart says no.
11:43 a.m. We now see messages from July 21. Lori to Chad: “It’s making me so happy to read about our life that I am finally going to dance. Missing you and loving you from afar!!” Lori to Chad: “It was great. I feel free again. I love you more than ever and can’t wait to. be with you forever. I’m begging father and mother. That’s my job tonight!” Chad to Lori, “I will be right beside you, begging just as much. I need you desperately!!!” All of these messages have multiple lip, fire and/or heart emojis.
11:42 a.m. Hart says Chad and Lori went to the Gilbert, Arizona, temple together while they were both married to other people.
11:39 a.m. Chad to Lori: “They arrived at the temple, and they both felt they should do sealings together. They were soon seated in a sealing room, facing each other. Elena looked so stunning as she smiled at him. She seemed calm, while he felt quite nervous. Their opportunity soon came to kneel across the altar from each other, and as the sealer pronounced those sacred words, James and Elena knew that they were now sealed as husband and wife for eternity. As the earthly sealing was taking place, a similar scene involving their spirits was happening on a higher plane, where they kissed and unified their souls. They knew they had just begun a new journey together that was eternal and never-ending.”
11:37 a.m. Chad to Lori: “They embraced following the blessing, and the emotions they felt were a mixture of eternal bless and telestial desire. The sexual chemistry was undeniable, but the spiritual unity was a glorious bonus for them both. They had only known each other for three weeks, but two lonely, misunderstood souls had finally found their best friend that they could trust and confide in.” Lori responds: “She loves it.”
11:34 a.m. Next slide: Chad to Lori on July 21 at 8:17 p.m. “James and Elena had agreed to visit the temple the following morning. She returned to the hotel room, and after additional romance on the couch, they calmed their nerves enough to give each other a blessing. As James placed his hands on her head, he connected with Elena’s true eternal self. He knew hew as in the presence of an exalted goddess who had returned to earth to perform a special mission. This mission included being with him, and they would progress together as translated beings. The full plan wasn’t yet completely clear to him, but the immense power radiating from her confirmed his belief that she was among the greatest women in the universe.”
11:32 a.m. Hart says he never saw any signs of grief or sorrow from Lori or Chad. “None,” when Blake asks.
11:29 a.m. Texts from July 21, 2019. Lori to Chad, “Found it. Ned gave all of it to Rhonda.” Chad to Lori: “Glad you found that out.” Lori to Chad: “It fits. Now she will try to take him. Thx for working on her. Work on me too. Reading all this stuff makes me sick.” Chad to Lori: “We will work hard on Rhonda when we are together. I will get her numbers as low as I can by Wednesday.” Lori to Chad: “Good. Let’s work on it hard.” Hart says Rhonda was the dark spirit that inhabited Kay Woodcock, JJ’s grandmother.
11:27 a.m. Lori responds that he (Charles) can change the life insurance at any time. Chad tells Lori that he thinks Kay is the beneficiary, and she was probably “freaking out” after Lori got “those computers.” Chad says he’s going to shower and give Lori a blessing. Lori texts Chad later that day. “So I talked to the insurance company. He changed it in March. So it was probably Ned before we got rid of him. They can’t tell me to who of course but it’s done. I’ll still get the 4000 a month from SS.”
11:25 a.m. Chad tells Lori that there should be a paper trail, and this is another step to bringing down the Gadiantons – “especially Brandon.” Lori responds that he (Charles) can change the life insurance at any time. Smith asks Hart what Gadiantons mean. “The Gadiantons were a group of people from the Book of Mormon – robbers and thieves.” When the phrase is used, it identifies someone as being a bad person.”
11:22 a.m. The next slide: Lori to Chad on July 18: “I just got the letter from the insurance company saying that I am not the beneficiary. It’s a spear thru my heart. Who do you think he changed it to? Brandon?? or probably Kay?? He left nothing for jj!!” Chad to Lori: “Wow. That’s terrible. There is no way to find out?” They go back and forth and Chad says, “Hmmm…it will be interesting if it got changed after he had two bullets in his chest.”
11:21 a.m. Hart says Lori would manipulate Chad – such as in her response, “And yet, you are” – meaning he can’t live without her but he is.
11:20 a.m. Next message from Chad to Lori on July 15: “I know you won’t get this for another hour or so, but my love for you is overflowing right now. I just want to hold you endlessly. You are my wonderful best friend I can’t live without!” Lori responds: “And yet…you are. So sad (emojis) missing you! Just landed! Gotta get to work!!”
11:19 a.m. Message on July 14. Chad to Lori: “I need so badly to just gently kiss you…for hours.” Chad: “It would likely lead to other activities.” Lori to Chad: “Likely or Luckily?” Chad to Lori: “It would LUCKILY lead to nakedness.” Hart says there was a lot of sexting messages in iCloud, and this was just one example.
11:17 a.m. Hart says the “she” in the message referred to Tammy Daybell. He believes the camp was an excuse for Chad and Lori to meet up in person.
11:15 a.m. The next slide shows messages sent the evening of July 14, 2019. Chad to Lori: “Hanging in there, but really missing you too! Please find out the name of Mel’s campout in Utah. I have no intention of going, but I feel it is our avenue to get together, whether she is still here or not.” Lori: “Zion’s family camp. Mel speaks Wed night and Dave speaks Thursday night. Shelly M is their main speaker…eye roll.” Chad: “My trip to speak at the camp July 24-26 has been approved and is now on the calendar.”
11:12 a.m. “He also became aware that his spirit would visit her at night, and they would wrap around each other in a sensual embrace. Kissing her was so wonderful and real, and he knew that the next time they saw each other, he needed to kiss her. He wouldn’t be able to resist holding her. He was absolutely in love with her in every way.”
11:09 a.m. Next slide: “As James and Elena talked on the phone, he tried to delicately describe their connection to each other, and he was delighted that she believed him. He also shared that they had been married other times on a previous world, and she accepted that information as well. James was overjoyed to have these memories restored to him, because he truly loved her with all of his heart. He knew they were meant to be married again and complete important missions together before the Second Coming.”
11:04 a.m. Chad referred to himself as James, Lori as Elena. Part of the novel is on the screen: “They would both attend the same event in mid-November, and it seemed like that day would never arrive. Each day they opened their hearts to each other a little more. James knew he could trust her with the mysteries of the universe that had been revealed to him. He knew they had been married before, and they had been close friends with the Savior when he lives in Jerusalem. James had served in an important position in the Lord’s church, and Elena had been his beloved spouse and best friend. That relationship was now meant to continue in this lifetime.”
11:02 a.m. Chad texted Lori the next day.“I love you so much! You are my greatest desire and my best friend. Now on with the story.” Chad then goes on to text “The James and Elena story.” You can read the romance novel to his “goddess lover” here.

11:01 a.m. On July 14 at 7:42 a.m., Chad to Lori: “Good morning my most beautiful Lili. (Thanks for joining me in the shower this morning. Wow!) Getting ready to leave for my meetings. Does noon your time look like a time we could talk? I love you so immensely that the whole universe knows it, and very soon the people on this little blue globe will know it too.” Lori responds at 8:19 a.m., “Morning sunshine. Sure. Call me if you get a chance.” Hart says Lori was in Arizona, and Chad was in Idaho at the time of this message.
11 a.m. These messages were sent two days after Charles Vallow was shot and killed.
10:59 a.m. Boyce asks Hart who he believes the “she” is referring to in the next. Hart says Tammy Daybell.
10:58 a.m. Next slide from July 13 at 11:06 p.m. Chad to Lori: “Concerning the two weeks, BYU-Idaho’s graduation is July 23rd. Adam is getting his bachelors and Leah and Joe are getting their associates. They are all walking in the same commencement ceremony. I feel she will be gone by then, but I will still have that hoopla to deal with, because a lot of my and Adam’s family are coming and will stay for July 24th. So I believe that’s why the Lord hinted I might not get to be with you until that is over. Please ask about that.”
10:57 a.m. Hart says the individuals within the group look to Chad as the supposed visionary who will give them this type of information. When the requests are made, Chad responds.
10:55 a.m. Next slide. Lori texts Chad: “Can you clear Mel’s new house? She is sleeping there tonight. And check it for recording devices?” Chad to Lori: “Glad we are in sync! I will clear the house and check it. Was he surprised when she returned home early?” Chad to Lori: “I’m working on the house, but having to break down some dark entities Brandon created. I detect three listening devices.” Lori to Melani: “From your dad: I’m working on the house, but having to break down some dark entries Brandon created. I detect three listening devices.”
10:53 a.m. Continuing…Lori to Chad: “Good idea.” Chad to Lori: “Aly Bloomer is 4.1 dark. Her cop husband is 3 dark. I suppose Brandon doesn’t know yet about the discovered Charles texts?” Lori to Chad: “Not yet but I’m sure he knows it’s not good. They have had a lot of conflict. Mel says he looks scared.” Lori to Melani: “Aly Bloomer’s husband 3 (dark emoji).” Chad to Lori: “His emotions are 75 percent panic, 25 percent fear. Yeah, he’s a little worried.”
10:52 a.m. Hart says Chad assigned people light or dark and would give them scores. Lori and others would seek Chad’s visions in relation to whether people were dark or light. This is one of the first references we see in the iCloud account where Lori is seeking information from Chad – meaning he will see what scores Aly Bloomer and her husband are, Hart says.
10:48 a.m. The next slide. These were sent between 9:18-9:30 p.m. on July 13, 2019. Text from Melani Boudreaux (her niece, now Pawlowski) to Lori: “Brandon (Melani’s ex-husband) is making me promise to not have your or AI around my house or kids. He’s talked to a lawyer. And he said his lawyer said that due to the circumstances he can do that. What do I do.” Melani sends another message: “He brought Aly Bloomer’s husband here who is a cop.” Chad texts Lori: “He can’t do that, just like he can’t get a restraining order against you. The mediator would make that clear. You and All did have any charges against you.” Chad sends another message to Lori: “I will check ALL Bloomer and husband.”
10:47 a.m. Audrey Barattiero was a friend and associate of Chad Daybell, Hart says. Chad introduced Audrey to Lori. Hart says the Lori being excited to talk to Audrey about “what they both know” stuck out to him.
10:42 a.m. Audrey responds: “Hi Lori. Guess you talked to Chad. Haha. Did he tell you I have a crazy work schedule? I might be able to talk tonight. I’ll have to play it by ear but I wouldn’t know until about 9:30 p.m. or after. The same for tomorrow.” Lori responds: “He did. That’s ok. Just let me know when you’re available. No pressure. I just think it’s fun to talk to someone who knows what’s really going on :)” Audrey responds: “So what times usually work for you? I usually talk to him on my lunch breaks on Mondays or Tuesday. Sunday afternoons I can talk.”
10:40 a.m. The majority of the information on the presentation is from the lori4style account. Lindsey Blake is questioning Hart. She shows the first slide. It’s a text message from Lori to Audrey Barattiero: “Hi Audrey, this is Lori. I would like to talk to you sometime. Text me or call me. I’m excited to be able to talk to you about what we both know :-)
10:37 a.m. Hart says Chad and Lori met on Oct. 26, 2018. He says there are communications in the exhibit that reference the time frame of when the couple met.
10:34 a.m. Hart says the amount of data on the iCloud accounts was voluminous. The FBI used a program called Cellebrite to search through the accounts. Hart has a summary exhibit showing what we discovered.
10:31 a.m. Hart was the FBI supervisor in the case. He reviewed and approved things that went into the case file. He also carried several investigative assignments in the case. He looked into two iCloud accounts of Lori Vallow – lori4style and lollytime. Lollytime started July 1, 2019, but lori4style was an older account.
10:30 a.m. Hart says this case was brought to the FBI’s attention toward the end of Nov. 2019. The FBI works well with partners in missing kid cases. The FBI worked with the Rexburg Police Department, Fremont County Sheriff’s Office and the Idaho Attorney General’s Office.
10:25 a.m. Back in the courtroom. Boyce is on the bench and the jurors have been brought in. Next witness for the prosecution will be retired FBI Agent Doug Hart. Hart is currently the chief deputy for the Canyon County Sheriff’s Office.
9:52 a.m. We will now break for the morning recess. Back soon.
9:50 a.m. Boyce says there are limitations on what should be allowed in redirect. He says he has been liberal in allowing the scope to be broad because there is an agreement between the state and defense in being efficient in moving through witnesses so they don’t have to be called twice. Boyce says he will keep an eye on the topics and take the objection under advisement.
9:49 a.m. Blake says Prior has been allowed to do a recross on all witnesses. She is objecting to the generality of him being able to recross everyone and asks that he be limited. Prior says it’s not up to the prosecutor to decide when he can recross, it’s up to the judge.
9:47 a.m. Boyce says we will take a mid-morning recess, but there is an issue that needs to be discussed outside the presence of the jury. Jurors are dismissed but the rest of us remain in the courtroom.
9:45 a.m. Prior at the podium and asks Gibb about castings. He asks if the purpose was to rid the body of evil spirits. She says yes. Prior has nothing further but he wants to keep Gibb under subpoena in case he wants to call her again later in the trial. He says the final decision has not been made if he will recall her.
9:42 a.m. Gibb says she didn’t know JJ had been reported missing when Chad told her not to talk to the police. Blake has no further questions. Prior has come follow-up questions. Blake asks to approach. The attorneys huddle in courtroom, and white noise is played.
9:40 a.m. Blake asks about the call and the part where Chad told Gibb she could be in danger. Blake asks if Chad ever jumped in to correct Lori on the call. Gibb doesn’t recall him jumping in. Blake follows up by asking about the call Gibb received from Chad around Thanksgiving when he asked her not to pick up the phone when the police call. Gibb asked Chad if JJ was with Kay. Chad told her no.
9:39 a.m. Blake asks who labeled people dark or zombie. Gibb says Chad. Blake asks that once someone was labeled dark or zombies, what would happen to their bodies? Gibb says if the casting was successful, the body would die. Gibb says JJ, Tammy, Charles and Tylee were all labeled dark or zombie.
9:37 a.m. Blake asks Gibb about her communication with prosecutors and if any of that communication altered her version of events. Gibb says no. Blake asks Gibb if she ever observed Chad and Lori on the phone together. Gibb says yes. She was able to overhear some of the conversations.
9:36 a.m. Blake asks if it would be fair to say that some people may have a glow about them. Gibb says yes. Blake asks if that’s different than the light and dark Chad and Lori taught. Gibb responds, “I think so.”
9:35 a.m. Blake asks about vibration. Gibb says Chad and Lori used the term in a way to express their knowledge about translation. The higher the vibration number, the closer the body would be to a translated state. Gibb says when you are translated, your body is changed in a way so you don’t have to eat, are stronger and more powerful.
9:33 a.m. Blake says Gibb has been asked a lot and asks if she has done her best to recall the facts. Gibb says yes. Blake asks if Chad ever indicated that he had visions. Gibb says he shared them publicly, so yes.
9:31 a.m. On Monday, Gibb and David left around 9:30 a.m. to drive to Pocatello to visit David’s son. Prior has no further questions. Blake will now conduct redirect.
9:30 a.m. After they saw the parcels of lands, Gibb went back to Lori’s townhouse. They recorded their podcast that night, and Chad was not there. They finished recording around midnight.
9:26 a.m. Lori colored and cut Gibb’s hair on Sunday. Prior asks if they went out for lunch. Gibb says she doesn’t remember the lunch arrangements. Gibb went to see a field and may have been with David. They then went to meet up with Chad to see a piece of property.
9:25 a.m. Gibb was at the conference all day and didn’t see Chad that night. Prior asks Gibb if she and David slept in the next day (Sunday). Gibb says no – she doesn’t sleep in.
9:23 a.m. That night Alex, Lori, Gibb and David were hanging out at Lori’s house. Gibb recalls Chad may have come over. Alex played Guitar Hero. On Saturday, Gibb went to a Firm Foundation conference. Prior asks if she remembers texting Wood that she was at the Firm Foundation for about ten hours taking photos.
9:21 a.m. The jump house was for JJ. Gibb says they were there around two hours. Alex came and went from the jump house, according to Gibb. They went out for pizza. Prior says she had to go back to Lori’s townhouse to get ready to pick up David. Gibb says that’s not correct – David drove in.
9:19 a.m. Gibb doesn’t recall seeing Chad that day – she just remembers she was with Lori. She landed on Thursday. Prior asks Gibb if she remembers going to Gravity Factory, a jump house, on Friday. Gibb doesn’t recall the exact date or time that they went.
9:17 a.m. Prior now discussing Gibb’s trip to Rexburg in September 2019. She landed in Idaho Falls and Lori picked her up. Gibb and Lori went to Johnny Carino’s, according to Prior. Gibb remembers going to an Italian restaurant. Prior says after they ate, they went to Walmart. Gibb doesn’t remember.
9:16 a.m. Prior asks Gibb about visiting Hawaii in 2019. He asked if Lori paid for her flight. Gibb doesn’t remember. Tylee was not there. Prior asks if there were occasions Lori paid for people’s flights. Gibb doesn’t know about that.
9:15 a.m. Prior asks about castings. Gibb had never done anything with castings until she met Lori. Prior asks if death was ever in the equation for castings. Prior says the person would eventually pass on if the evil spirit didn’t leave. Prior asks if this teaching is consistent with the LDS faith. Gibb says no.
9:14 a.m. Gibb does not recall the message and does not recall talking to people outside of the inner circle about light and dark.
9:13 a.m. Prior asks Gibb is she had discussions with people about light and dark. She said she did but didn’t go around teaching. Prior shows Gibb a message where she apparently spoke about a man named Mike James and a woman named Nancy being super dark.
9:09 a.m. Prior back at the stand. This email was from July 2019. Prior says Gibb was getting ready to go teach at a mountain retreat. Gibb says she doesn’t recall anything like that. Gibb says the text was from Lori to Gibb. Prior says the message was from her to Lori. Gibb says she never taught in any camp about dark portals.
9:05 a.m. Prior shows an email sent from Gibb to Lori where she says she will teach people about dark portals. There is some confusion over who sent the email to whom. Blake asks to approach. Attorneys are meeting with Boyce on the side of the courtroom.
9:01 a.m. Prior asks about Chad, Lori and Gibb using different names. Chad and Lori used the names James and Elena. Prior says Gibb went by the name of Phoebe. Gibb says she occasionally went by that name.
9 a.m. Prior asks Gibb if Lori was being vague on the phone call because Chad was there and Lori didn’t want Chad to know she was going to talk about the murder of JJ Vallow. Gibb says she has no idea what Lori’s agenda was.
8:58 a.m. Gibb says there was contact with law enforcement before the call but she doesn’t recall the time or date. Prior says during the call, the majority of the conversation was between Chad and Lori. He says the only time Chad got on the phone call was to talk about his premonition about Tammy. Gibb agrees Chad was not a significant portion of the call.
8:56 a.m. Prior asks about the recorded call Gibb made to Chad and Lori on Dec. 8, 2019. He asks if she had contact with law enforcement before making the call. Gibb says she spoke with police but isn’t sure of the date. Prior says she made two calls to Rexburg Police Det. Ray Hermosillo on Dec. 6 and 7. Gibb says she doesn’t recall the dates.
8:53 a.m. Prior asks about the police calling Gibb and inquiring about JJ. Gibb told them she had JJ, even though she didn’t. Prior says after that point, she decided to tell police she didn’t have JJ because she was having an emotional reflection. Gibb says yes. She says it took a few weeks to go to the police and tell them the truth.
8:52 a.m. Prior follows up by telling Gibb she is denying the fact Chad called her seeking out information on JJ. Gibb says yes. Gibb says Lori called and asked her to go to “Frozen” and take photos of kids.
8:51 a.m. Prior asks Gibb is she spoke to Lori prior to Nov. 23, 2019 with Lori warning her Chad was going to call. Gibb says no. Chad called on the 23rd and said Lori was going to get a hold of her. Prior says, “Isn’t it true that on Nov. 25, 2019, Chad Daybell contacted you and specifically asked you where is JJ Vallow?” Gibb says no.
8:48 a.m. Gibb says Chad never told her he intended to do harm to Tammy, JJ or Tylee. Prior refers to the call Gibb received from Chad about not talking to the police.
8:47 a.m. Gibb was present a few times when Chad openly discussed that his wife wasn’t going to live long. He was saying this before he met Lori Vallow. Prior refers to a text message Gibb sent Rob Wood saying Chad told people his wife was going to die young.
8:45 a.m. Prior asks Gibb if she is familiar with the group Seven Gatherers. She says she is not. Prior asks if Chad and Lori ever talked about a plan of spending their lives together. Gibb says within a month or two of them meeting, they started talking about leading the 144,000.
8:44 a.m. Prior asks Gibb is she provided a hair sample to law enforcement. She says she did not. He asks if she ever turned over her phone to police. She says no – she was never requested. She never turned over emails or social media accounts to law enforcement. She did provide a DNA sample to police in 2021.
8:41 a.m. Larry Woodcock is in the courtroom this morning. Vicki Hoban, Tammy Daybell’s aunt, is also here.

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8:38 a.m. The attorneys are at their tables and Gibb is back on the stand. Boyce is on the bench and jurors will be brought in.
8:30 a.m. The attorneys are headed back into Judge Boyce’s chambers.
8:25 a.m. Melanie Gibb, who was once Lori Daybell’s best friend, will be on the stand again this morning, and Prior will continue cross examination.
8:22 a.m. It’s day 7 of Chad Daybell’s trial, and we are back in the courtroom. Chad is wearing a light blue shirt and tie. John Prior is sitting next to him, and the prosecutors are at their table. There are a lot of people in the courtroom today – many here for the first time. The bailiff (“Courtroom Daddy”) is reminding everyone not to record, take photos and to be sure all phones are off.
 

Friday 19th update.

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11:58 a.m. Boyce suggests we break for the day until Monday. Court is now adjourned. I’ll break it all down tonight on “Courtroom Insider.” Join me live at 6:30 p.m. MT. on the EastIdahoNews.com YouTube channel or my Facebook page.
11:53 a.m. Messages from July 28. Lori to Chad: “R u mad? Sad? What?” Chad to Lori, “I’m doing okay. Just no privacy here to hardly text, and I’m missing you immensely. I feel good about the trip.” Lori to Chad: “I need a distraction while I’m waiting for you! I love you!” Chad to Lori: “Absolutely. I think you’ll have a fun time!” Hart says Lori was going to take a trip with Alex and Melani Boudreaux to Southern California.
11:52 a.m. Chad shows little emotion in the courtroom as these text messages are read. He occasionally writes a few things on a notepad in front of him. The jurors are focused – some taking notes, others reading the messages on the screens in front of them.
11:49 a.m. Chad texts Lori on July 26. “I’m home. Missing you immensely and feeling very tired, but I had a splendid time with you, my love! I will text again soon.” An hour later, Chad texts, “Tonight I figured out who I feel like. I’m a grown-up version of Harry Potter, who has to live with the Dudleys in his little space under the stairs. Every few weeks I get to escape and have amazing adventures with my Goddess lover, but then I have to return to my place under the stairs, feeling trapped. But I sense permanent freedom is coming!”
11:46 a.m. Texts on July 22. Chad to Lori: “Love you. going with Garth in an hour to see ‘The Other Side of Heaven 2.’ Missing you desperately, but so excited to be with you. Lori to Chad: “I love you. U will enjoy the scenery…looks like Kauai a lot!” Lori to Chad: “Hopefully we will be there some day soon together!”He responds, “That is the plan! And my greatest desire.” After the movie, Chad texts, “Hi darling, Back from the movie. We enjoyed it! I look forward to being on a tropical island with you!”
11:44 a.m. Hart says Chad and Lori had a clear plan to be with each other together and forever. They were both begging God for that to happen, Hart says. Tammy Daybell was alive when these messages are exchanged. Blake asks if there was ever any indication of Chad planning to get divorced or separated. Hart says no.
11:43 a.m. We now see messages from July 21. Lori to Chad: “It’s making me so happy to read about our life that I am finally going to dance. Missing you and loving you from afar!!” Lori to Chad: “It was great. I feel free again. I love you more than ever and can’t wait to. be with you forever. I’m begging father and mother. That’s my job tonight!” Chad to Lori, “I will be right beside you, begging just as much. I need you desperately!!!” All of these messages have multiple lip, fire and/or heart emojis.
11:42 a.m. Hart says Chad and Lori went to the Gilbert, Arizona, temple together while they were both married to other people.
11:39 a.m. Chad to Lori: “They arrived at the temple, and they both felt they should do sealings together. They were soon seated in a sealing room, facing each other. Elena looked so stunning as she smiled at him. She seemed calm, while he felt quite nervous. Their opportunity soon came to kneel across the altar from each other, and as the sealer pronounced those sacred words, James and Elena knew that they were now sealed as husband and wife for eternity. As the earthly sealing was taking place, a similar scene involving their spirits was happening on a higher plane, where they kissed and unified their souls. They knew they had just begun a new journey together that was eternal and never-ending.”
11:37 a.m. Chad to Lori: “They embraced following the blessing, and the emotions they felt were a mixture of eternal bless and telestial desire. The sexual chemistry was undeniable, but the spiritual unity was a glorious bonus for them both. They had only known each other for three weeks, but two lonely, misunderstood souls had finally found their best friend that they could trust and confide in.” Lori responds: “She loves it.”
11:34 a.m. Next slide: Chad to Lori on July 21 at 8:17 p.m. “James and Elena had agreed to visit the temple the following morning. She returned to the hotel room, and after additional romance on the couch, they calmed their nerves enough to give each other a blessing. As James placed his hands on her head, he connected with Elena’s true eternal self. He knew hew as in the presence of an exalted goddess who had returned to earth to perform a special mission. This mission included being with him, and they would progress together as translated beings. The full plan wasn’t yet completely clear to him, but the immense power radiating from her confirmed his belief that she was among the greatest women in the universe.”
11:32 a.m. Hart says he never saw any signs of grief or sorrow from Lori or Chad. “None,” when Blake asks.
11:29 a.m. Texts from July 21, 2019. Lori to Chad, “Found it. Ned gave all of it to Rhonda.” Chad to Lori: “Glad you found that out.” Lori to Chad: “It fits. Now she will try to take him. Thx for working on her. Work on me too. Reading all this stuff makes me sick.” Chad to Lori: “We will work hard on Rhonda when we are together. I will get her numbers as low as I can by Wednesday.” Lori to Chad: “Good. Let’s work on it hard.” Hart says Rhonda was the dark spirit that inhabited Kay Woodcock, JJ’s grandmother.
11:27 a.m. Lori responds that he (Charles) can change the life insurance at any time. Chad tells Lori that he thinks Kay is the beneficiary, and she was probably “freaking out” after Lori got “those computers.” Chad says he’s going to shower and give Lori a blessing. Lori texts Chad later that day. “So I talked to the insurance company. He changed it in March. So it was probably Ned before we got rid of him. They can’t tell me to who of course but it’s done. I’ll still get the 4000 a month from SS.”
11:25 a.m. Chad tells Lori that there should be a paper trail, and this is another step to bringing down the Gadiantons – “especially Brandon.” Lori responds that he (Charles) can change the life insurance at any time. Smith asks Hart what Gadiantons mean. “The Gadiantons were a group of people from the Book of Mormon – robbers and thieves.” When the phrase is used, it identifies someone as being a bad person.”
11:22 a.m. The next slide: Lori to Chad on July 18: “I just got the letter from the insurance company saying that I am not the beneficiary. It’s a spear thru my heart. Who do you think he changed it to? Brandon?? or probably Kay?? He left nothing for jj!!” Chad to Lori: “Wow. That’s terrible. There is no way to find out?” They go back and forth and Chad says, “Hmmm…it will be interesting if it got changed after he had two bullets in his chest.”
11:21 a.m. Hart says Lori would manipulate Chad – such as in her response, “And yet, you are” – meaning he can’t live without her but he is.
11:20 a.m. Next message from Chad to Lori on July 15: “I know you won’t get this for another hour or so, but my love for you is overflowing right now. I just want to hold you endlessly. You are my wonderful best friend I can’t live without!” Lori responds: “And yet…you are. So sad (emojis) missing you! Just landed! Gotta get to work!!”
11:19 a.m. Message on July 14. Chad to Lori: “I need so badly to just gently kiss you…for hours.” Chad: “It would likely lead to other activities.” Lori to Chad: “Likely or Luckily?” Chad to Lori: “It would LUCKILY lead to nakedness.” Hart says there was a lot of sexting messages in iCloud, and this was just one example.
11:17 a.m. Hart says the “she” in the message referred to Tammy Daybell. He believes the camp was an excuse for Chad and Lori to meet up in person.
11:15 a.m. The next slide shows messages sent the evening of July 14, 2019. Chad to Lori: “Hanging in there, but really missing you too! Please find out the name of Mel’s campout in Utah. I have no intention of going, but I feel it is our avenue to get together, whether she is still here or not.” Lori: “Zion’s family camp. Mel speaks Wed night and Dave speaks Thursday night. Shelly M is their main speaker…eye roll.” Chad: “My trip to speak at the camp July 24-26 has been approved and is now on the calendar.”
11:12 a.m. “He also became aware that his spirit would visit her at night, and they would wrap around each other in a sensual embrace. Kissing her was so wonderful and real, and he knew that the next time they saw each other, he needed to kiss her. He wouldn’t be able to resist holding her. He was absolutely in love with her in every way.”
11:09 a.m. Next slide: “As James and Elena talked on the phone, he tried to delicately describe their connection to each other, and he was delighted that she believed him. He also shared that they had been married other times on a previous world, and she accepted that information as well. James was overjoyed to have these memories restored to him, because he truly loved her with all of his heart. He knew they were meant to be married again and complete important missions together before the Second Coming.”
11:04 a.m. Chad referred to himself as James, Lori as Elena. Part of the novel is on the screen: “They would both attend the same event in mid-November, and it seemed like that day would never arrive. Each day they opened their hearts to each other a little more. James knew he could trust her with the mysteries of the universe that had been revealed to him. He knew they had been married before, and they had been close friends with the Savior when he lives in Jerusalem. James had served in an important position in the Lord’s church, and Elena had been his beloved spouse and best friend. That relationship was now meant to continue in this lifetime.”
11:02 a.m. Chad texted Lori the next day.“I love you so much! You are my greatest desire and my best friend. Now on with the story.” Chad then goes on to text “The James and Elena story.” You can read the romance novel to his “goddess lover” here.

11:01 a.m. On July 14 at 7:42 a.m., Chad to Lori: “Good morning my most beautiful Lili. (Thanks for joining me in the shower this morning. Wow!) Getting ready to leave for my meetings. Does noon your time look like a time we could talk? I love you so immensely that the whole universe knows it, and very soon the people on this little blue globe will know it too.” Lori responds at 8:19 a.m., “Morning sunshine. Sure. Call me if you get a chance.” Hart says Lori was in Arizona, and Chad was in Idaho at the time of this message.
11 a.m. These messages were sent two days after Charles Vallow was shot and killed.
10:59 a.m. Boyce asks Hart who he believes the “she” is referring to in the next. Hart says Tammy Daybell.
10:58 a.m. Next slide from July 13 at 11:06 p.m. Chad to Lori: “Concerning the two weeks, BYU-Idaho’s graduation is July 23rd. Adam is getting his bachelors and Leah and Joe are getting their associates. They are all walking in the same commencement ceremony. I feel she will be gone by then, but I will still have that hoopla to deal with, because a lot of my and Adam’s family are coming and will stay for July 24th. So I believe that’s why the Lord hinted I might not get to be with you until that is over. Please ask about that.”
10:57 a.m. Hart says the individuals within the group look to Chad as the supposed visionary who will give them this type of information. When the requests are made, Chad responds.
10:55 a.m. Next slide. Lori texts Chad: “Can you clear Mel’s new house? She is sleeping there tonight. And check it for recording devices?” Chad to Lori: “Glad we are in sync! I will clear the house and check it. Was he surprised when she returned home early?” Chad to Lori: “I’m working on the house, but having to break down some dark entities Brandon created. I detect three listening devices.” Lori to Melani: “From your dad: I’m working on the house, but having to break down some dark entries Brandon created. I detect three listening devices.”
10:53 a.m. Continuing…Lori to Chad: “Good idea.” Chad to Lori: “Aly Bloomer is 4.1 dark. Her cop husband is 3 dark. I suppose Brandon doesn’t know yet about the discovered Charles texts?” Lori to Chad: “Not yet but I’m sure he knows it’s not good. They have had a lot of conflict. Mel says he looks scared.” Lori to Melani: “Aly Bloomer’s husband 3 (dark emoji).” Chad to Lori: “His emotions are 75 percent panic, 25 percent fear. Yeah, he’s a little worried.”
10:52 a.m. Hart says Chad assigned people light or dark and would give them scores. Lori and others would seek Chad’s visions in relation to whether people were dark or light. This is one of the first references we see in the iCloud account where Lori is seeking information from Chad – meaning he will see what scores Aly Bloomer and her husband are, Hart says.
10:48 a.m. The next slide. These were sent between 9:18-9:30 p.m. on July 13, 2019. Text from Melani Boudreaux (her niece, now Pawlowski) to Lori: “Brandon (Melani’s ex-husband) is making me promise to not have your or AI around my house or kids. He’s talked to a lawyer. And he said his lawyer said that due to the circumstances he can do that. What do I do.” Melani sends another message: “He brought Aly Bloomer’s husband here who is a cop.” Chad texts Lori: “He can’t do that, just like he can’t get a restraining order against you. The mediator would make that clear. You and All did have any charges against you.” Chad sends another message to Lori: “I will check ALL Bloomer and husband.”
10:47 a.m. Audrey Barattiero was a friend and associate of Chad Daybell, Hart says. Chad introduced Audrey to Lori. Hart says the Lori being excited to talk to Audrey about “what they both know” stuck out to him.
10:42 a.m. Audrey responds: “Hi Lori. Guess you talked to Chad. Haha. Did he tell you I have a crazy work schedule? I might be able to talk tonight. I’ll have to play it by ear but I wouldn’t know until about 9:30 p.m. or after. The same for tomorrow.” Lori responds: “He did. That’s ok. Just let me know when you’re available. No pressure. I just think it’s fun to talk to someone who knows what’s really going on :)” Audrey responds: “So what times usually work for you? I usually talk to him on my lunch breaks on Mondays or Tuesday. Sunday afternoons I can talk.”
10:40 a.m. The majority of the information on the presentation is from the lori4style account. Lindsey Blake is questioning Hart. She shows the first slide. It’s a text message from Lori to Audrey Barattiero: “Hi Audrey, this is Lori. I would like to talk to you sometime. Text me or call me. I’m excited to be able to talk to you about what we both know :)
10:37 a.m. Hart says Chad and Lori met on Oct. 26, 2018. He says there are communications in the exhibit that reference the time frame of when the couple met.
10:34 a.m. Hart says the amount of data on the iCloud accounts was voluminous. The FBI used a program called Cellebrite to search through the accounts. Hart has a summary exhibit showing what we discovered.
10:31 a.m. Hart was the FBI supervisor in the case. He reviewed and approved things that went into the case file. He also carried several investigative assignments in the case. He looked into two iCloud accounts of Lori Vallow – lori4style and lollytime. Lollytime started July 1, 2019, but lori4style was an older account.
10:30 a.m. Hart says this case was brought to the FBI’s attention toward the end of Nov. 2019. The FBI works well with partners in missing kid cases. The FBI worked with the Rexburg Police Department, Fremont County Sheriff’s Office and the Idaho Attorney General’s Office.
10:25 a.m. Back in the courtroom. Boyce is on the bench and the jurors have been brought in. Next witness for the prosecution will be retired FBI Agent Doug Hart. Hart is currently the chief deputy for the Canyon County Sheriff’s Office.
9:52 a.m. We will now break for the morning recess. Back soon.
9:50 a.m. Boyce says there are limitations on what should be allowed in redirect. He says he has been liberal in allowing the scope to be broad because there is an agreement between the state and defense in being efficient in moving through witnesses so they don’t have to be called twice. Boyce says he will keep an eye on the topics and take the objection under advisement.
9:49 a.m. Blake says Prior has been allowed to do a recross on all witnesses. She is objecting to the generality of him being able to recross everyone and asks that he be limited. Prior says it’s not up to the prosecutor to decide when he can recross, it’s up to the judge.
9:47 a.m. Boyce says we will take a mid-morning recess, but there is an issue that needs to be discussed outside the presence of the jury. Jurors are dismissed but the rest of us remain in the courtroom.
9:45 a.m. Prior at the podium and asks Gibb about castings. He asks if the purpose was to rid the body of evil spirits. She says yes. Prior has nothing further but he wants to keep Gibb under subpoena in case he wants to call her again later in the trial. He says the final decision has not been made if he will recall her.
9:42 a.m. Gibb says she didn’t know JJ had been reported missing when Chad told her not to talk to the police. Blake has no further questions. Prior has come follow-up questions. Blake asks to approach. The attorneys huddle in courtroom, and white noise is played.
9:40 a.m. Blake asks about the call and the part where Chad told Gibb she could be in danger. Blake asks if Chad ever jumped in to correct Lori on the call. Gibb doesn’t recall him jumping in. Blake follows up by asking about the call Gibb received from Chad around Thanksgiving when he asked her not to pick up the phone when the police call. Gibb asked Chad if JJ was with Kay. Chad told her no.
9:39 a.m. Blake asks who labeled people dark or zombie. Gibb says Chad. Blake asks that once someone was labeled dark or zombies, what would happen to their bodies? Gibb says if the casting was successful, the body would die. Gibb says JJ, Tammy, Charles and Tylee were all labeled dark or zombie.
9:37 a.m. Blake asks Gibb about her communication with prosecutors and if any of that communication altered her version of events. Gibb says no. Blake asks Gibb if she ever observed Chad and Lori on the phone together. Gibb says yes. She was able to overhear some of the conversations.
9:36 a.m. Blake asks if it would be fair to say that some people may have a glow about them. Gibb says yes. Blake asks if that’s different than the light and dark Chad and Lori taught. Gibb responds, “I think so.”
9:35 a.m. Blake asks about vibration. Gibb says Chad and Lori used the term in a way to express their knowledge about translation. The higher the vibration number, the closer the body would be to a translated state. Gibb says when you are translated, your body is changed in a way so you don’t have to eat, are stronger and more powerful.
9:33 a.m. Blake says Gibb has been asked a lot and asks if she has done her best to recall the facts. Gibb says yes. Blake asks if Chad ever indicated that he had visions. Gibb says he shared them publicly, so yes.
9:31 a.m. On Monday, Gibb and David left around 9:30 a.m. to drive to Pocatello to visit David’s son. Prior has no further questions. Blake will now conduct redirect.
9:30 a.m. After they saw the parcels of lands, Gibb went back to Lori’s townhouse. They recorded their podcast that night, and Chad was not there. They finished recording around midnight.
9:26 a.m. Lori colored and cut Gibb’s hair on Sunday. Prior asks if they went out for lunch. Gibb says she doesn’t remember the lunch arrangements. Gibb went to see a field and may have been with David. They then went to meet up with Chad to see a piece of property.
9:25 a.m. Gibb was at the conference all day and didn’t see Chad that night. Prior asks Gibb if she and David slept in the next day (Sunday). Gibb says no – she doesn’t sleep in.
9:23 a.m. That night Alex, Lori, Gibb and David were hanging out at Lori’s house. Gibb recalls Chad may have come over. Alex played Guitar Hero. On Saturday, Gibb went to a Firm Foundation conference. Prior asks if she remembers texting Wood that she was at the Firm Foundation for about ten hours taking photos.
9:21 a.m. The jump house was for JJ. Gibb says they were there around two hours. Alex came and went from the jump house, according to Gibb. They went out for pizza. Prior says she had to go back to Lori’s townhouse to get ready to pick up David. Gibb says that’s not correct – David drove in.
9:19 a.m. Gibb doesn’t recall seeing Chad that day – she just remembers she was with Lori. She landed on Thursday. Prior asks Gibb if she remembers going to Gravity Factory, a jump house, on Friday. Gibb doesn’t recall the exact date or time that they went.
9:17 a.m. Prior now discussing Gibb’s trip to Rexburg in September 2019. She landed in Idaho Falls and Lori picked her up. Gibb and Lori went to Johnny Carino’s, according to Prior. Gibb remembers going to an Italian restaurant. Prior says after they ate, they went to Walmart. Gibb doesn’t remember.
9:16 a.m. Prior asks Gibb about visiting Hawaii in 2019. He asked if Lori paid for her flight. Gibb doesn’t remember. Tylee was not there. Prior asks if there were occasions Lori paid for people’s flights. Gibb doesn’t know about that.
9:15 a.m. Prior asks about castings. Gibb had never done anything with castings until she met Lori. Prior asks if death was ever in the equation for castings. Prior says the person would eventually pass on if the evil spirit didn’t leave. Prior asks if this teaching is consistent with the LDS faith. Gibb says no.
9:14 a.m. Gibb does not recall the message and does not recall talking to people outside of the inner circle about light and dark.
9:13 a.m. Prior asks Gibb is she had discussions with people about light and dark. She said she did but didn’t go around teaching. Prior shows Gibb a message where she apparently spoke about a man named Mike James and a woman named Nancy being super dark.
9:09 a.m. Prior back at the stand. This email was from July 2019. Prior says Gibb was getting ready to go teach at a mountain retreat. Gibb says she doesn’t recall anything like that. Gibb says the text was from Lori to Gibb. Prior says the message was from her to Lori. Gibb says she never taught in any camp about dark portals.
9:05 a.m. Prior shows an email sent from Gibb to Lori where she says she will teach people about dark portals. There is some confusion over who sent the email to whom. Blake asks to approach. Attorneys are meeting with Boyce on the side of the courtroom.
9:01 a.m. Prior asks about Chad, Lori and Gibb using different names. Chad and Lori used the names James and Elena. Prior says Gibb went by the name of Phoebe. Gibb says she occasionally went by that name.
9 a.m. Prior asks Gibb if Lori was being vague on the phone call because Chad was there and Lori didn’t want Chad to know she was going to talk about the murder of JJ Vallow. Gibb says she has no idea what Lori’s agenda was.
8:58 a.m. Gibb says there was contact with law enforcement before the call but she doesn’t recall the time or date. Prior says during the call, the majority of the conversation was between Chad and Lori. He says the only time Chad got on the phone call was to talk about his premonition about Tammy. Gibb agrees Chad was not a significant portion of the call.
8:56 a.m. Prior asks about the recorded call Gibb made to Chad and Lori on Dec. 8, 2019. He asks if she had contact with law enforcement before making the call. Gibb says she spoke with police but isn’t sure of the date. Prior says she made two calls to Rexburg Police Det. Ray Hermosillo on Dec. 6 and 7. Gibb says she doesn’t recall the dates.
8:53 a.m. Prior asks about the police calling Gibb and inquiring about JJ. Gibb told them she had JJ, even though she didn’t. Prior says after that point, she decided to tell police she didn’t have JJ because she was having an emotional reflection. Gibb says yes. She says it took a few weeks to go to the police and tell them the truth.
8:52 a.m. Prior follows up by telling Gibb she is denying the fact Chad called her seeking out information on JJ. Gibb says yes. Gibb says Lori called and asked her to go to “Frozen” and take photos of kids.
8:51 a.m. Prior asks Gibb is she spoke to Lori prior to Nov. 23, 2019 with Lori warning her Chad was going to call. Gibb says no. Chad called on the 23rd and said Lori was going to get a hold of her. Prior says, “Isn’t it true that on Nov. 25, 2019, Chad Daybell contacted you and specifically asked you where is JJ Vallow?” Gibb says no.
8:48 a.m. Gibb says Chad never told her he intended to do harm to Tammy, JJ or Tylee. Prior refers to the call Gibb received from Chad about not talking to the police.
8:47 a.m. Gibb was present a few times when Chad openly discussed that his wife wasn’t going to live long. He was saying this before he met Lori Vallow. Prior refers to a text message Gibb sent Rob Wood saying Chad told people his wife was going to die young.
8:45 a.m. Prior asks Gibb if she is familiar with the group Seven Gatherers. She says she is not. Prior asks if Chad and Lori ever talked about a plan of spending their lives together. Gibb says within a month or two of them meeting, they started talking about leading the 144,000.
8:44 a.m. Prior asks Gibb is she provided a hair sample to law enforcement. She says she did not. He asks if she ever turned over her phone to police. She says no – she was never requested. She never turned over emails or social media accounts to law enforcement. She did provide a DNA sample to police in 2021.
8:41 a.m. Larry Woodcock is in the courtroom this morning. Vicki Hoban, Tammy Daybell’s aunt, is also here.

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8:38 a.m. The attorneys are at their tables and Gibb is back on the stand. Boyce is on the bench and jurors will be brought in.
8:30 a.m. The attorneys are headed back into Judge Boyce’s chambers.
8:25 a.m. Melanie Gibb, who was once Lori Daybell’s best friend, will be on the stand again this morning, and Prior will continue cross examination.
8:22 a.m. It’s day 7 of Chad Daybell’s trial, and we are back in the courtroom. Chad is wearing a light blue shirt and tie. John Prior is sitting next to him, and the prosecutors are at their table. There are a lot of people in the courtroom today – many here for the first time. The bailiff (“Courtroom Daddy”) is reminding everyone not to record, take photos and to be sure all phones are off.
I am glad you do this as on workdays I have read them. on break once or twice. Not going to read all this today as I feel I saw the bulk yesterday and today live. All has value and lets one keep up just like watching a nightly summary which I've done too with Nate and/or Linda or both but not kept up perfectly on that either. One day I read all these and then didn't get to watch them when I got home.

and there's weeks to come so I am sure I will be employing or looking at whatever option I have time for or can lol.

and there's so much I haven't commented on that I wanted to remember to or find time to and that's not going to happen either.

one is prior not seeming to be able to recall some interview of Mel G, I think it was him anyhow, and of course he meant the one with Nate Eaton that I think ALL of us saw back when. No way did he not know that or forget that. Just a little atty. lie, one thing I wanted to mention of MANY.

She was far smoother in an arranged interview like that than she was here. She was also far smoother in cop interviews we saw her ein where everything was nicey nice. She mostly held her sh*t but was getting a bit defensive at times and then came back this morning calmer and so on but her memory is so selective and ideal and some answers so canned that she is not what I'd call the ideal witness. Not saying she is bad or doesn't help anything but thank goodness there is plenty that isn't needed from her and is evidence. The other thing is just like Delphi if Prior could even hint at her lying or being more involved it just adds her, it does not remove Chad. Adding Os does not remove Richard Allen. Somewhat similar. Not entirely.

I did not get to watch as much as I listened to. I was up and doing things a lot of the times but could hear tones and so on. Ideally I would have watched all but did with quite a bit. Now for probably two weeks most likely at least I am going to have to rely on Tweets or nightly summaries.

I think Prior will give one heck of an effort but that Chad is going down. Unless of course there is one rogue juror. They have shown so many texts and clear proof etc he was as in this as Lori that it isn't even funny. In fact they are almost trying him for knowing of and being part of the plan on Charles when he hasn't been charged for that. Sidebars and problems continue constantly. And I saw a moment or two that I thought Lindsey Blake was not her usually unruffled self. These are things watching shows lol.

Watchiiiing it with/on Linda's is great so if anyone has a day which I don't generally they can just give their day to it in the next weeks I would suggest doing it here. A great bunch in chat and her often there with any sidebar or break talking of it all. She truly is committed to covering every day of this one and doin a nightly show as well, sometimes next morning before she gets them out. Nate is attending, she is not. But because of that she can talk when they are on sidebar, etc. where he is in the courtroom. Both are absolutely outstanding and putting in all of their time.
 
OMG. I watched and heard a ton and saw parts of this but not all. I slept in past court starting as up half the night and had to leave a few times.

All know I am not a defense fan, Prior fan and Chad is guilty but Prior is no slouch. WATCH THIS. It nailes Chad but it also shows all these people are liars including Mel G which I have always said she has never told all the truth.

Nate's tonight. I am between a shower and first meal of the day all day at almost 11 p.m. but catching most may have to rewatch if I can.

HIGHLY SAYING WATCH THIS.

I caught a LOT of it but I missed some parts I heard hints of in chats with Prior and Mel G as I got up late etc.

It IS damning to Chad but it also makes Mel G less than honest without doubt.

These people are ALL guilty imo and is one of my mantras and issues to this day.

 
I am not through it all but some of it I did see when watching bu just a warning a lot of the sickening sexting of James and Elena. Nate is on a roll with it though. Man he mksuktk have gotten some rest. Worthwhile show although all of his are but highly recommend. Just be prepared for the sexting of the old blonde and the toad.
 
I may well have to rewatch this one. Problem is I should be in bed and never will otherwise. Much of it I saw in testimony but not all and just like now I am listening to Nate ut hamve sh*t to get down but this is GOOD. Nate imo is In high form too.

And as if all else has not been a lot of b.s I look and just see my work schedule has changed for the next to weeks! I generally have the same two days off and had major necessary plans next week for those two days and now they have changed! NEVER seen this before and then the next week the same!!

I know I know O/T. And I spent a full week on top of work on his stupid apt complex right up through tonight !

BAck to the point, this show is GOOD but do beware of the sickening Jamea and Elena sexting however it is all very good all put together with the points here in Nate's recap tonight.
 
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK. So does, I am sorry if not PC but , the CHURCH, the ELEPHANT always in the ROOM which has come up too...
 
Nate will be gone for the next week an overseas wedding. Says he is going to try to unplug but won't likely be able to, etc. Says may try to do a couple depending on overseas intent but colleagues will be covering trial. He will try but also should if I understand him try to unplug lol and be with wife and at friend's wedding, etc. He and even Erica may pop on though lol.

Says when the wedding of these TWO friends of his was planned, he thought this trial would be long done and over. So not Nate this next week but EIN will still be covering I guess.

He is talking about Alex maybe being one of the first people to get COVID in question and answers. No agreement by me there bukt hek did go on to say what a crazy coincidence that would be if so.

Nate is like on full steam tonight. Like in a hurry or very well rested unlike me lol. unless I somehow hit some speed button on his video and I am pretty sure I did not. Maybe I'm just so old and tired it strikes me that way. Okay now he is slower and so I now I hit no button.

Just confirmed what some of us have wondered. Witness list has not been released.
 
Prior forgets the microphone as Nate puts it EVERY pause SINGLE pause DAY and it gets old. Then he is back to rapid speed. Maybe end of week and a vacation ahead and just trying to get his last one out. I have NEVER heard him so fast paced. I have never slowed down speed but if I rewatch and may have to or want to, I might have to slow the speed. I am not trying to insult, I love Nate, he is just rapid pace but every one in awhile he drops to normal speed but then back to rapid. Every bit though GOOD. Just tired and getting a headache over fast than normal for a second then over fast again.
 
yes home 30 minutes, has to go pack for his trip and go get dinner somewherr with Erica. Uh huh so clearly and yeah I guessed right he blew home when Boyce dismisesed early and had to get this out and now ha to change modes. He also end with saying in a couple of days is their anniversary and last year were not together on it and gives kudos to posecutors, lawyers, etc. who have to miss special events and dates etc. Not dissing but did call it. he was clearly in a rush lol most of the video. I can only imagine what the family has to deal with when he covers a many weeks long trial and does nightly shows and is away, etc.

she may come on with him not sure yet while they are gone and he tries to do a few.

do not not watch it thinking I covered it all as I did not. I need to go back and rewatch honestly because I was getting clothes set for the work week etc. duing part.
 
Okay shouidl be in bed but am stupidly rewatching. Nate doesn't sound in a hurry in the beginning. Must happen as pressur builds to get a move on, pack, etc. lol.

Anyhow I missed some of the beginning I when I put him on and one thing is OJ's case took NINE MONTHS???? Sh*t I thought I watched most of that and I don't recall NINE MONTHS.
 
yeah I don't think she'd likely help either. she'd try to help Chad, his Storm would get a boner and it would be case over. Forgive my crassness lol.

I think she'd be in hot water very quickly though seriously. She'd attempt to help but be caught out in short order. She's a great liar and schmoozer but would think her out of practice but who knows.... The woman has never been interrogated EVER where she was faced with cold hard facts has she?
LOL. I would want to watch this one live.

Her fingerprints were on the tape round JJ's head IIRC so she should be called and questioned IMO.

She would say that her friend Tammy told her Chad is innocent.

Would Prior throw her under the bus or has Chad said no?
 
LOL. I would want to watch this one live.

Her fingerprints were on the tape round JJ's head IIRC so she should be called and questioned IMO.

She would say that her friend Tammy told her Chad is innocent.

Would Prior throw her under the bus or has Chad said no?
Oh yeah if she testified we would all want to see that live.

I don't think it will happen but who knows, I can see Prior doing just about anything but think it would be pretty risky for them. For one thing the jury isn't going to see some blonde temptress to explain Chad's infatuation with her but an aging non botoxed Lori lol, etc.

You know how in court she claimed Tammy was her friend, well she also said that to Charles. When he threatened to tell Tammy about Lori and Chad she told him Tammy would not believe him as Tammy was her friend. I think I have that correct. And so it truly has me wondering, were they rotten enough they put Lori into Tammy's life, she met her or was told to be friends with her or some such? Did Lori ensure she met her without Chad or something? Or is this just talk and lies by Lori? In other cases the gf has made a point of meeting the wife, etc. I won't go into but know of a few. Could just be lies of course but just had me wondering...

Well I had appts set up next week in my other state and last night I see they switched up my schedule. I just can't win lately. I had appts with realtors my mom set up, my mom aailable, my daughter going with me and her work schedule arranged and then they changed mine. So tired of all going haywire lately. Taxes weren't done on time now they are but can't get into sign them and of course it is the weekend. And more. And this apt. complex. Spent all week and days off dealing with them and even trying to find them to make contact and get some answers. Going to have to go into work and tell them they need to put my schedule back to what it was and if they can't do it, I am going to be like almost all others and take every other weekend off. I work every weekend and the tradeoff is I get every Thurs and Fri off. Well they took that away for at least the next two weeks and not sure if the intend to continue to do so. It is busy season and I'm sure that is part of it and it is probably to cover someone else gone, no idea BUT they keep hiring tons of new people, put one of THEM on instead. Also have two new managers kind of in training and maybe one of them messed it up, no idea. BUT I had them off and now it got switched. I work holidays and every weekend, I take nights or days unlike some, etc. All in exchange in part that I get two other days off per week IN A ROW and not random separate days. But now I have Wed and Friday off and work Thurs. Who wants that? I sure don't. Then they will work you til 9 or later night before and have our back the day following the day off at 7 a.m. O/T I know. I need a week off badly. Haen't had any real time off since I started. Every time I take a day it is for something I HAVE to DO. I need to sleep for a week. I need to catch up on things for a week. I need a week away from there. Etc. Heck I need two months off minimum. Oh well. Guess I will have to deal with this mess up today but will be lucky to find time with a manager. It is Sat and we all will be busier than heck as will they. And I haven't let daughter know and she has it all arranged. Heck I did not know until last night and just luck that I even checked my schedule and noticed the change. Grrrr.

Anyhow.....

I hope I linked the right one of Nate's. I watched two.

I don't even know what anyone would do with Lori on the stand. LOL. I can't picture it. Trying to go back to topic. I imagine she'd be like we saw her in cop interviews, flirting and ha ha ha or lecturing and preaching as she did in her ridiculous statement full of lies at her trial. However, we have never seen her at the end of tough and pointed questions by anyone EVER. Cops neverput her through sh*t r grilled her.
 

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