JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

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Oh I think I know what it was--Nate said jury was SOOOO attentive during some of this and taking more notes than ever. What reminded me is later in Nate's show which I just saw more minutes of he now says later in the afternoon when Prior was still at it, jury seemed to have been over it and not paying as much attn. One juror had eyes closed, etc. Some were rubbing their eyes, their head, etc. Paid attn to him for some time but got to done with it or so it sounds to me.

And that Prior wanted to impeach Z but failed as her testimony is damning.
 
Oh I think I know what it was--Nate said jury was SOOOO attentive during some of this and taking more notes than ever. What reminded me is later in Nate's show which I just saw more minutes of he now says later in the afternoon when Prior was still at it, jury seemed to have been over it and not paying as much attn. One juror had eyes closed, etc. Some were rubbing their eyes, their head, etc. Paid attn to him for some time but got to done with it or so it sounds to me.

And that Prior wanted to impeach Z but failed as her testimony is damning.
From what I read what Nate said, and then some comments on the silver linings podcast, I think the jury is tired of Prior already.
 
From what I read what Nate said, and then some comments on the silver linings podcast, I think the jury is tired of Prior already.
Haven't caught up on all tweets and have not been near silver linings for some time, all I can do to keep up with Nate's nightly videos and Linda's and am behind on those now BUT I wouldn't be surprised at a jury tired of Prior... :D
 
I hate and can't stand this stuff but but feel it should be mentioned. Did I know or choose to forget, I know I wondered but not sure I ever knew, that JJ was alive when the plastic bag and duct tape went on him. Kay did not attend at the suggestion of Larry and Larry started crying and left when Tylee was talked of where they couldn't determine sh*t. So JJ wwe may as well say was tortured, not some peaceful death and I'd guess Tylee more so. I DISLIKE talking of this and it kills me and it makes me recall things I don't want to recall as to autopsy and such but I think it needs to be said as to HOW EVIL these people were/are. In case anyone would ever have a shred of sympathy for either Chad or Lori and I'm honestly not sure about the rest of the bunch either...

So I finished Nate's with full attn. this morning and just hit the trial starting. I will watch on Linda as I do on every day off. I'm not caught up on all posts, tweets or Linda's last few nights, etc. but am on the summary through Nate of the last couple of days. Better than I figured I'd be but not as much as I'd like to have caught up with.

And today is a GO and on just NOW.
 
OMG I may take a break from listening. Details are horrible. I can't even see how anyone cannot see the DP for him and not hate that LORI NEVER GOT SUCH. When listening to this sh*t.
 
I hate and can't stand this stuff but but feel it should be mentioned. Did I know or choose to forget, I know I wondered but not sure I ever knew, that JJ was alive when the plastic bag and duct tape went on him. Kay did not attend at the suggestion of Larry and Larry started crying and left when Tylee was talked of where they couldn't determine sh*t. So JJ wwe may as well say was tortured, not some peaceful death and I'd guess Tylee more so. I DISLIKE talking of this and it kills me and it makes me recall things I don't want to recall as to autopsy and such but I think it needs to be said as to HOW EVIL these people were/are. In case anyone would ever have a shred of sympathy for either Chad or Lori and I'm honestly not sure about the rest of the bunch either...

So I finished Nate's with full attn. this morning and just hit the trial starting. I will watch on Linda as I do on every day off. I'm not caught up on all posts, tweets or Linda's last few nights, etc. but am on the summary through Nate of the last couple of days. Better than I figured I'd be but not as much as I'd like to have caught up with.

And today is a GO and on just NOW.
He had bruising on his arms and scratches on his neck too.
 
Wednesday 8th - update.

LIVE UPDATES FROM THE CHAD DAYBELL TRIAL​

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Please excuse the typos. These are live updates from the courtroom.

WARNING: GRAPHIC DETAILS ARE CONTAINED IN THIS STORY

3:11 p.m.
Wood requests a brief sidebar. We will dismiss for the day. Join me tonight at 6:30 MT for ‘Courtroom Insider.’

3:08 p.m. Werther is released from his subpoena. Boyce reads a limiting instruction to the jury about the Arizona case involving Charles’ and tells the jury shouldn’t consider it when deliberating.

3:06 p.m. Prior has no further questions. Blake has some questions on re-direct. She follows up on Prior suggesting some of the call may not have gone through due to poor reception. Werther says the calls, with their duration, and texts with Chad and Lori’s devices were noted on his presentation. Blake has nothing further.

3:05 p.m. Prior asks about the Burger King video. He says there appeared to be three people in the vehicle. Werther says it’s possible and indeed likely that three people were inside the car.

3:03 p.m. Prior points out that Chad was in Utah the day of these texts and calls. Prior says because of that, there’s a possibility Werther’s data is not accurate. Prior suggests phone reception could be poor because Chad was in Springville.

3:02 p.m. Prior asks Werther if he is aware Chad and Lori were engaged in an affair. Werther says that’s what he has been told. Prior asks if cell tower coverage is the least effective way to obtain data from a cell phone. Werther says he’s not sure it’s the least effective but it’s not as accurate as GPS data.

3:01 p.m. Prior asks about the history of the phone correspondence between Chad and Lori’s devices. Werther says he did not look at the history – just focused on that day. Prior asks Werther if he reviewed the call Chad made to the funeral home. Werther has not.

3 p.m. Exhibit is over. Blake has nothing further. Prior will now cross examine.

2:58 p.m. Werther continues to detail the text and call activity for the rest of the day. Several messages between Chad and Lori’s devices.

2:56 p.m. Chad Daybell’s device called the Valley of the Sun Mortuary at 7:34 p.m. that evening. The call lasted 7 minutes 14 seconds. It was the only call from his device that day to someone who was not to Lori Vallow.

2:53 p.m. At 4:02 p.m., there is a call from Alex’s device to Lori’s device. More texts and calls between Lori’s device and Chad’s device.

2:52 p.m. Detectives ended up taking possession of Charles’ device. It remains with Chandler Police Property and Evidence.

2:49 p.m. Werther lays out several slides showing Alex Cox’s device called Det. Ynclan’s desk. Melani B.’s device called Lori’s device and there is other communication between Charles’ device, Lori’s device and Alex’s device.

2:48 p.m. At 2:24 p.m., Chad’s device texted Lori’s device. The contents of the texts were not preserved. Lori’s device then texted Chad’s device back.

2:46 p.m. Lori called Det. Ynclan’s desk that afternoon. Ynclan interviewed Lori. Lori’s device missed a call from Colby Ryan and called the Valley of the Sun Mortuary. The call lasted 9 minutes 39 seconds. There was ongoing text communication between Lori and Chad’s devices.

2:44 p.m. Werther shows texts going back and forth between Chad and Lori’s devices. Melani B. called Lori Vallow in a call that lasted over five minutes.

2:41 p.m. The slide shows the mapping of a voice call from Lori’s phone to Chad’s phone. It was 1 minute 45 seconds. The next slide shows Alex Cox’s device was in the same area as Charles Vallow’s device at 12:57-12:59 p.m. Chad’s device texted Lori’s device at 1:11 p.m. Charles’s device went to Alex’s home at 1:26 p.m.

2:39 p.m. Det. Werther is back on the stand and Blake will continue her examination. She pulls up the presentation and Boyce says, “fingers crossed.” Werther’s statement about being “less than ideal” was in reference to the tech issues.

2:16 p.m. Mid-afternoon recess right now. Back in 20 minutes.

2:13 p.m. Martinez does not do anything with DNA. Prior asks if Martinez was asked by law enforcement to compare prints to anybody else other than Alex, Chad and Lori. She says no. Prior has nothing further, state has no re-direct. Martinez is dismissed from her subpoena.

2:12 p.m. Martinez looks at her notes and believes around 50 different adhesive notes were used to collect the hairs from the plastic at the scene. Some of the hairs were found right away; others were seen after multiple processes.

2:07 p.m. Prior asks Martinez if plastic is a good conduit for fingerprints. She says yes – it’s a very good surface for latent prints because it’s nonporous. She was able to find Alex’s fingerprint and part of his handprint. Prior asks how many hairs Martinez collected. She doesn’t recall how many, but they are in her notes. Boyce allows her to look at her notes as a memory refresher.

2:06 p.m. No other fingerprints were able to be identified on the items she collected. She gathered the hairs and saved them for another person, as she doesn’t do hair analysis. Wood has no further questions.

2:04 p.m. The next print appears to be a palm, according to Martinez. We now see a close-up and analysis chart of the latent print. This print from the black plastic bag matched Alex Cox’s print.



2:03 p.m. The print matched Alex Cox – his right little finger. This was on the black plastic where JJ’s body was found.

2:01 p.m. The next image shows a photo she developed when she collected the print. The following image is an enhanced version of the last print. We now see an analysis of the latent print. The next image is comparison to Alex Cox’s fingerprint.

1:59 p.m. Wood admits a PowerPoint put together by Martinez. The first slide shows the black colored plastic that she processed for prints. A yellow indicator shows where the latent print was on the item. The next image shows where the print was located on the item.

1:55 p.m. Martinez was able to collect some hairs from the items she collected. Wood asks Wood about item 11 – black colored plastic and gray duct tape. There are multiple pieces so she labeled them separate. 11.1-11.11 is the tape, 11.12-11.15 is the plastic pieces.

1:53 p.m. Martinez checked a white draw string bag with duct tape. She was not able to collect any prints from the bag. She then a collection of a bunch of duct tape. She was able to develop prints. She tested another piece of duct tape from JJ’s mouth and was not able to get any prints. She wasn’t able to process prints from other pieces of tape or the green bucket.

1:52 p.m. Martinez collected two samples from Alex Cox: one was a fingerprint card of all 10 figures from a federal database. She also got a card from the Gilbert Police Department. Gilbert had his prints from Alex’s autopsy.

1:50 p.m. Martinez says there is a database of known prints where she pull cards and compare against the prints she has collected. Wood asks if she is familiar with the Lori Vallow/Chad Daybell case. She is. Martinez’s first contact with the case was taking prints at the coroner’s office. She took prints from JJ. She processed different items submitted in the case and took known prints of Lori and Chad.

1:48 p.m. If Martinez sees any prints during her processing, she preserves them. She follows ACE-V when it comes to prints – Analysis, Comparison, Evaluation, Verification. During the verification phase, another analyst does the process over again.

1:45 p.m. Wood is questioning Martinez. He asks how she would collect a latent print if it’s left behind. If the print was on plastic, she would first do a visual examination. She looks for hair, other factors. She then uses different colors of light to see if there are prints. Next she uses superglue fuming – “similar to what you see on CSI.” The super glue attaches to any moisture on the items. The glue makes the prints more visible. Next step would be using dye stain followed by powder.

1:44 p.m. Martinez process latent prints – prints that are left unintentionally. They normally are not easy to see and have to be processed. She uses different processes to analyze prints. Latent prints are not always left everywhere.

1:42 p.m. Martinez processes items of evidence to compare fingerprints and she responds to crime scenes. She has worked for the state lab for eight years.

1:41 p.m. Tara Martinez is the next witness. She is an Idaho State Police forensic scientist.

1:40 p.m. The state is requesting that Werther leave the stand while the technical difficulties are figured out. Another witness will now be called to the stand.

1:37 p.m. There are technical difficulties with the exhibit. Blake asks to approach.

1:33 p.m. The computer is working again. Werther begins to talk. Looks like the computer might not be working again.


1:24 p.m. The computer appears to have frozen. Werther says, “That’s less than ideal.” Blake is going to restart the computer.

1:23 p.m. We now see a map showing that Chad’s device was in the Salt Lake City at 12:39 p.m. that day. He texted Lori’s device but the contents are not available.

1:20 p.m. Charles’ device received an incoming call from Melani Boudreaux at 10:25 a.m. The phone was at the police station where Lori was being questioned. Alex missed a call from Summer Shiflet, Lori and Alex’s sister, while he was at the police station.

1:18 p.m. Charles’ device arrived back in the Four Peaks area around 8:49 a.m. – around the time Lori returned to the house. We see an image from police body camera footage showing Tylee and Lori in the flip flops that were just purchased at Walgreens.

1:16 p.m. Lori leaves Walgreens at 8:20 a.m. The next slide shows Lauren’s Life Academy – the school JJ attended. The device was at the school at 8:32 a.m. The call from Alex Cox’s device was made about 63 minutes after Charles’ device first arrived in the Four Peaks area.

1:14 p.m. Werther talks about Lori stopped at a drug store to buy flip flops. Charles’ device arrived at 8:08 a.m. and wasn’t there very long. At 8:16 a.m., the device was at Walgreens. Werther reminds the jury a 911 call has not yet been made to report that Charles has been shot. We now see surveillance video of Lori walking into Walgreens and buying two pairs of sandals. She pays cash.

1:12 p.m. We now see a different outside angle of the vehicle leaving Burger King. The claim Lori had Charles’ phone is supported the GPS tracking evidence.

1:09 a.m. Werther went to Burger King and compared time stamps versus the cell phone data. We see a red Kia Sorento in the drive-thru at Burger King that Lori was driving. Lori was at Burger King at 7:54 a.m.

1:07 p.m. At around 7:55 a.m., Charles’ device was at Burger King. You can watch surveillance video of Lori visiting the fast food restaurant here:


1:05 p.m. Werther discusses a slide on the screen that shows where a device was at the time an event happened. At 7:52 a.m., there was a voice call between Lori and Alex’s phones. After the shooting, Alex and Lori communicated via phone and this was one of a few calls the two had. This was before the 911 call.

1:03 p.m. Jurors are in their seats. Blake will continue questioning Werther.

1:01 p.m. We are back. Larry and Kay Woodcock are in the courtroom this afternoon. So is Vicki Hoban, Tammy Daybell’s aunt. Rex Conner, Lori Vallow’s uncle, is also here with his daughter.

12 noon Lunch break. Be back in an hour.

11:58 a.m. At 7:33 a.m., Charles’s device texted Lori’s device. Werther does not have the contents of the messages. Until 7:50 a.m., the data from Charles’s device was around the Four Peaks home. It was then in transit for about 46 minutes prior to when the 911 call occurred. Lori had Charles’ phone and police recovered it from her.

11:56 a.m. We now see a slide showing that Lori’s device texted Chad’s device at 6:12 a.m. At 7:01 a.m., Chad’s device texted the Lori device. At 7:16 a.m., Charles Vallow’s device was traveling from the Hilton to the area of the Four Peaks home. He arrives at 7:32 a.m.

11:54 a.m. Lori went to Burger King, stopped at Walgreens and took JJ to school the morning Charles was shot. Charles was staying at a tru Hilton hotel the night before the shooting.

11:51 a.m. A new screen shows the distance from the home where Charles was shot to the Burger King where Lori stopped for breakfast. It’s 1.69 miles away. There is also a measurement to JJ’s school – 7.2 miles. The 911 was received at 8:36 a.m.

11:48 a.m. Werther put the data into a program that would lay the locations of the cell phone activity on a Google map. Blake now shows a map animation Werther created that shows the general areas that were involved in the analysis – Phoenix and Chandler.

11:47 a.m. Werther sought instances where the location data could be corroborated, invalidated or rendered questionable. This was to evaluate the reliability of the data.

11:43 a.m. The next slides will show us the analysis of the cell phone records. The first slide is a synopsis of the event the morning Charles was killed. Another slide shows claims made the morning of the shooting that could be testable with cell phone and GPS data.

11:41 a.m. Werther used different colors on his presentation to indicate which device was being used or in communication.

11:39 a.m. Werther also looked at locations extracted from Charles’ phone. That data can be produced onto a spreadsheet.

11:35 a.m. The first phone number was a T-Mobile phone used by Lori Vallow. No logs of text messages were received from the phone company on this line. The next slide if a Verizon phone attributed to Alex Cox. The next slide shows an AT&T number attributed to Chad Daybell. The phone attributed to Chad had communication to Lori on July 11.

11:34 a.m. The first slide shows the Chandler Police Department summary report of a shooting. The report said “shot brother in law.” The call was 8:36 a.m. on July 11, 2019.

11:33 a.m. The exhibit has around 120 slides and embedded media, Blake says. The first slide shows the four phone numbers associated to Charles.

11:31 a.m. Werther analyzed phone records from four devices. He has prepared an exhibit showing his findings. Blake moves to admit the exhibit.


11:28 a.m. Werther says the call detail records will usually indicate the cell tower and sector of the tower used during the call or text. The name of the program Werther used was previously called ZetX but it’s now called TraX.

11:25 a.m. Werther looked at cell phone records belonging to Charles Vallow. He inspected records from T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T. Each provider has their way of keeping records. Werther analyzed GPS location data extracted from Charles’ phone. Werther used a data analysis tool to analyze the records.

11:24 a.m. Werther was working the day Charles Vallow was shot. Werther wasn’t on the robbery/homicide team at that point – he joined a few months later – but he was invited to go out on the call as a training opportunity. Much of time at the scene was observing but not handling a specific responsibility.

11:21 a.m. Werther explains his training including his experience in working with cell phone evidence. Blake asks what a call detail record is. Werther says they are records kept by your cell phone company – voice calls, how long, incoming or outgoing text messages, etc. Law enforcement obtains cell phone records through a warrant.

11:19 a.m. Lindsey Blake is questioning Werther. He is assigned to the robbery/homicide unit.

11:14 a.m. Back in the courtroom. Jurors are in their seat. Boyce says courthouse renovations are taking place tomorrow so the court will dismiss at 2 p.m. Next witness is Chandler Police Detective Ariel Werther.

10:53 a.m. Boyce says there is an exhibit with the next witness that is an electronic format and it needs to be reviewed. We are taking a break and will be back when it’s ready.

10:45 a.m. Defense and state call for a sidebar before the next witness.

10:44 a.m. Wood follows up by asking about bruises. He asks if bruising could be considered a form of trauma. Warren says yes. Wood asks if given the condition of JJ Vallow, Warren would be surprised to bruising on JJ’s body. Warren says in a case like this, bruising would be significant.

10:42 a.m. Prior asks if the remains were significantly smaller than had Tylee been alive at the time. Warren says that’s a question for the forensic anthropologist. Warren says it’s very common in a fire-related death. When the organs are charred, they shrink and lose weight. Prior has no further questions.

10:40 a.m. The autopsies were done on June 11, 2020. Prior asks about the term “heavy lungs.” Warren says this is used when there is pulmonary edema. This happens when there is a lot of fluid in the lungs. Prior continues to question and Wood objects saying this is beyond the scope. Boyce sustains the objection.

10:38 a.m. Prior asks Warren how tall Tylee was. He says he was not able to get her height based on the remains. Warren doesn’t remember how tall she was based on Tylee’s medical records. Prior asks Warren if he can determine whether there were animal or human remains in the fire pit. He says he isn’t a forensic anthropologist so he can’t answer that.

10:36 a.m. Prior asks Warren if he can determine when bruises were caused on a body. Warren says he can get a rough idea based on the hemorrhaging.

10:34 a.m. Defense attorney John Prior will now conduct cross examination. He asks Warren if he noted there were K9 bites on any of Tylee’s remains. Warren says he did not notice any but left that up to the anthropologist.

10:30 a.m. Wood has no further questions. Boyce has some questions on exhibit numbering. He and Wood are making sure the exhibit letters match the actual exhibits that were shown to the jury. The prosecution did not show all the autopsy photos.

10:27 a.m. To have a homicide by unspecified means, the death has to be very suspicious, Warren says. Another factor would be the evidence was concealed. Another factor would be the autopsy not showing an obvious cause or better explanation for cause of death. Another factor is there isn’t enough of the body there to do a full examination.

10:25 a.m. After the autopsy, Warren and his lab collected and cleaned the remains. All the bones were sent to the FBI for a detailed forensic anthropology report. Wood asks if the report contributed to Warren’s decision on Tylee’s cause of death. Warren says he took everything into account. Warren says the FBI noted there were sharp, force markings on the sacrum and the left and right pelvic bones. Tylee’s cause of death was homicide by unspecific means.

10:24 a.m. The fourth bag consisted of multiple small charred crumbly bone. The fifth bag contained soft tissue and charred crumbly bone.

10:22 a.m. A third paper bag was labeled “remains of suspected female.” There were five additional bags in one large paper bag. Inside each of the small bags was fragments of charred bone. One bag was labeled, “Fire pit – B – 06/09/2020.” Inside the bag was small, crumbly, charred bone.

10:20 a.m. Skull bones, portions of ribs, the clavicles, multiple long bones and foot bones were in one of the bags. They were crumbling, blackened and not in tact.

10:19 a.m. The next photo shows sections of the heart and lungs that have been laid out. Warren describes one kidney that is blackened and some of it is burned away.

10:17 a.m. The next photo shows Tylee’s heart and lungs. Warren says this isn’t what heart and lungs typically look like. They are charred and significantly shrunken. Wood points out the lungs and heart on the image for Warren to identify. “They were very small. Best estimate is they were probably a quarter of the size that they typically are,” Warren says.

10:15 a.m. Two additional bags in the body bag contained. Warren explains a photo showing the largest portion of Tylee’s skull. He describes parts of the skull that are charred. There are teeth that have been charred. Tylee was identified through dental records – comparing her teeth to previous x-rays when she was alive.

10:12 a.m. The next photos show the second black body bag, how it was labeled, and what was inside. One thing that stood out to Warren is there was a green plastic material. After it was pulled out and cleaned, they determined it was a melted green bucket. The rest of the content contains human remains, soft tissue and organs.

10:10 a.m. Warren describes the next photo. It has dirt, mud and rocks that are left after all the bone and body parts were collected. Warren says there multiple charred bones and debris in another bag.

10:08 a.m. Warren explains three distinct large pieces of bone – right pelvis with attached portion of the right femur, one is the left pelvis attached to left femur and the sacrum – a bone at the end of your lower back that is part of your pelvis.

10:05 a.m. Warren describes the body bags that contained Tylee’s remains. They were sealed with body locks. Warren opened the black body bag. Two additional brown paper bags were inside. One was not labeled, the other was labeled with “burial site?” Within the same body bag, there were two paper bags containing multiple collections of soft tissue, bone and debris.

10:04 a.m. Back in the courtroom. Wood publishes the photos. Again – we don’t see them in the gallery or the livestream but the jury will see them. Victims are allowed to see the photos if they wish and arrangements can be made for them to be viewed.

9:31 a.m. Boyce says we are taking a break. Back in 15-20 minutes.

9:30 a.m. Wood moves to admit another set of photographs that were taken during Tylee’s autopsy.

9:27 a.m. Warren reminds the jury that cause of death was asphyxia by plastic bag over the head and duct tape covering the mouth.

9:26 a.m. Warren says the abrasions could have been from someone putting the bag over JJ’s head or JJ trying to get the bag off his head. “I wasn’t there, I don’t know, but these are possibilities,” he explains.

9:25 a.m. The next picture shows JJ’s left ear. There were scratch-like abrasions. There were also scratch-like abrasions on JJ’s neck and jaw, Warren says.

9:22 a.m. A photo is shown of JJ’s thumb. There was hemorrhage, and Warren says there would have had to be some sort of impact to cause it. The next photo shows JJ’s ankles, and Warren did some testing on areas that looked like they might have bruising. He did some testing on the spots and determined there were not bruises.

9:20 a.m. Warren describes the next photo of JJ. He is face down, and it shows an area of concern for bruising on his left upper arm. Warren made an incision in that area of the arm to inspect if there was true bruising. He determined it was.

9:17 a.m. Warren was looking for any sign of trauma that would have helped explain how JJ died. There was bruising on his right upper arm. Warren took sections of the areas and looked at them under the microscope. There was hemorrhage in the body tissue – meaning it was true bruising.

9:16 a.m. Chad Daybell sits stoned-faced and shakes his head “no” as some of these photographs are displayed. He can see them on the monitor at his table.

9:14 a.m. Warren continues to describe photos of JJ’s body. His skin is green/tan brown, and there is skin slippage. A photo is shown of JJ’s back and neck that shows decomposition changes.

9:12 a.m. The next photo shows JJ’s face after all tape and everything has been removed. Another juror on the front row is crying and has her head down. She reaches for a tissue and is holding it over her face.

9:11 a.m. The next image shows the disposable diaper JJ was wearing.

9:09 a.m. Warren describes more photos showing duct tape around JJ’s wrists, body decomposition, etc. Another juror – a woman on the back row – is wiping her eyes and is visibility upset. She is biting her lips and appears to be fighting back tears.

9:07 a.m. A single cut was made along the tape on the wrists. Warren and his team found additional duct tape around JJ’s wrists. One juror – a young woman – appears to be crying. She is wiping her nose and eyes with a tissue.

9:05 a.m. The next photo shows the strip of duct tape that was covering JJ’s mouth. Another photo shows the tape after it was removed from JJ’s mouth. Warren says all of the duct tape was sealed and submitted to law enforcement. The next photo shows JJ’s forearms, wrists and hands bound with multiple layers of duct tape.

9:04 a.m. Another photo is shown of the ankles bound with duct tape. Warren says one single cut was made along the side of the face to remove the duct tape. A portion of JJ’s face is shown in this photo. A strip of duct tape covers his mouth from jawline to jawline.

9:02 a.m. The next photo shows the hands duct taped together. Pictures are taken at multiple angles to make sure everything is captured, Warren says. He describes the following photo that shows the pajama pants that are soaked in decomposition fluid with white moldy substance near the right knee.

9:01 a.m. The next photo is a closeup of the lower half of the body. JJ’s ankles are bound with duct tape. He has on black socks. The following photo shows the blanket and pajama top. Warren says the pajama top is soaked with decomposition fluid and there is mold on the shirt. There is a lot of dirt and debris on the duct tape around his face.

9 a.m. Several jurors look at the screens in front of them. I notice one juror glances at the screen in front of him quickly and then looks up. He is not spending a lot of time looking at the photos.

8:58 a.m. The next photo shows JJ enclosed in the black body bar. He was wrapped in a black tarp with multiple strips of duct tape. The next image shows what it looks like after they opened the black tarp. “This was the first time I actually saw JJ’s body,” Warren says. “Near the top of the head you can see a white plastic bag that is covering his head and then his face is wrapped with duct tape all the way from his eyes to the neck. You can also see his forearms, wrists and hands are bound with duct tape.” A blue and white blanket was resting on JJ and he was wearing a red pajama top and bottom. “The only part of the skin is the upper arms. They show evidence of decomposition in the form of a green/tan leathery appearance with skin slippage.”

8:56 a.m. Warren describes the first photo. It shows how JJ was received at the coroner’s office. He is in a body bag and there is a red seal indicating the case number. The next picture is a close-up photo of the seal/body lock – number 506559 – after it has been cut and removed.

8:54 a.m. The photos are being shown to the jurors, Daybell and prosecution. We will not see them on the livestream or in the gallery of the courtroom.

8:53 a.m. Wood moves to admit photos taken during JJ’s autopsy.

8:50 a.m. Larry and Kay Woodcock are not in the courtroom today.

8:49 a.m. Warren sent a sample of the skeletal muscle for toxicology testing. The test came back positive for ibuprofen, caffeine, low levels of carbon monoxide. There was nothing in her toxicology report that Warren felt could explain her death.

8:47 a.m. All of the tissues were charred and shriveled. Warren says there were pieces of her skull and skull fragments. Foot bones, the sternum, hip bones and other bones were also identified. They were all blackened and had been burned.

8:46 a.m. It took about a week to separate all the debris and mud. Warren’s teams were able to find several bones, organs and soft tissues. Warren identified the heart, the right and left lung, a portion of the liver, one of the kidneys, small fragments of brain tissue and a few small segments of bowel.

8:44 a.m. Warren takes the stand. Wood is questioning him from the lectern. He begins by asking about Tylee Ryan’s remains. Warren says he received her remains in multiple bags. Two were black body bags that were sealed. There was also a brown paper bag with multiple bags inside. All of the bags were x-rayed – 28 x-rays in total. They were looking for projectiles, weapon fragments. They saw multiple bones and a fair amount of debris – mud, dirt, rocks.

8:41 a.m. Chad Daybell is at his table wearing a blue dress shirt and tie. He’s seated next to John Prior. Fremont Co. Prosecuting Attorney Lindsey Blake, Dep. Prosecutor Rocky Wixom, Madison Co. Prosecuting Attorney Rob Wood and Special Prosecutor Ingrid Batey at the other table. Judge Steven Boyce is on the bench.

8:20 a.m. We are back in the courtroom and it’s day 19 of Chad Daybell’s murder trial. Dr. Garth Warren, the forensic pathologist who did the autopsies on JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan, will be back on stand this morning. You can get caught up on what he said yesterday here.
 
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9:09 a.m.
Warren describes more photos showing duct tape around JJ’s wrists, body decomposition, etc. Another juror – a woman on the back row – is wiping her eyes and is visibility upset. She is biting her lips and appears to be fighting back tears.

9:07 a.m. A single cut was made along the tape on the wrists. Warren and his team found additional duct tape around JJ’s wrists. One juror – a young woman – appears to be crying. She is wiping her nose and eyes with a tissue.

9:05 a.m. The next photo shows the strip of duct tape that was covering JJ’s mouth. Another photo shows the tape after it was removed from JJ’s mouth. Warren says all of the duct tape was sealed and submitted to law enforcement. The next photo shows JJ’s forearms, wrists and hands bound with multiple layers of duct tape.

9:04 a.m. Another photo is shown of the ankles bound with duct tape. Warren says one single cut was made along the side of the face to remove the duct tape. A portion of JJ’s face is shown in this photo. A strip of duct tape covers his mouth from jawline to jawline.

9:02 a.m. The next photo shows the hands duct taped together. Pictures are taken at multiple angles to make sure everything is captured, Warren says. He describes the following photo that shows the pajama pants that are soaked in decomposition fluid with white moldy substance near the right knee.

9:01 a.m. The next photo is a closeup of the lower half of the body. JJ’s ankles are bound with duct tape. He has on black socks. The following photo shows the blanket and pajama top. Warren says the pajama top is soaked with decomposition fluid and there is mold on the shirt. There is a lot of dirt and debris on the duct tape around his face.

9 a.m. Several jurors look at the screens in front of them. I notice one juror glances at the screen in front of him quickly and then looks up. He is not spending a lot of time looking at the photos.

8:58 a.m. The next photo shows JJ enclosed in the black body bar. He was wrapped in a black tarp with multiple strips of duct tape. The next image shows what it looks like after they opened the black tarp. “This was the first time I actually saw JJ’s body,” Warren says. “Near the top of the head you can see a white plastic bag that is covering his head and then his face is wrapped with duct tape all the way from his eyes to the neck. You can also see his forearms, wrists and hands are bound with duct tape.” A blue and white blanket was resting on JJ and he was wearing a red pajama top and bottom. “The only part of the skin is the upper arms. They show evidence of decomposition in the form of a green/tan leathery appearance with skin slippage.”

8:56 a.m. Warren describes the first photo. It shows how JJ was received at the coroner’s office. He is in a body bag and there is a red seal indicating the case number. The next picture is a close-up photo of the seal/body lock – number 506559 – after it has been cut and removed.

8:54 a.m. The photos are being shown to the jurors, Daybell and prosecution. We will not see them on the livestream or in the gallery of the courtroom.

8:53 a.m. Wood moves to admit photos taken during JJ’s autopsy.

8:50 a.m. Larry and Kay Woodcock are not in the courtroom today.

8:49 a.m. Warren sent a sample of the skeletal muscle for toxicology testing. The test came back positive for ibuprofen, caffeine, low levels of carbon monoxide. There was nothing in her toxicology report that Warren felt could explain her death.

8:47 a.m. All of the tissues were charred and shriveled. Warren says there were pieces of her skull and skull fragments. Foot bones, the sternum, hip bones and other bones were also identified. They were all blackened and had been burned.

8:46 a.m. It took about a week to separate all the debris and mud. Warren’s teams were able to find several bones, organs and soft tissues. Warren identified the heart, the right and left lung, a portion of the liver, one of the kidneys, small fragments of brain tissue and a few small segments of bowel.

8:44 a.m. Warren takes the stand. Wood is questioning him from the lectern. He begins by asking about Tylee Ryan’s remains. Warren says he received her remains in multiple bags. Two were black body bags that were sealed. There was also a brown paper bag with multiple bags inside. All of the bags were x-rayed – 28 x-rays in total. They were looking for projectiles, weapon fragments. They saw multiple bones and a fair amount of debris – mud, dirt, rocks.

8:41 a.m. Chad Daybell is at his table wearing a blue dress shirt and tie. He’s seated next to John Prior. Fremont Co. Prosecuting Attorney Lindsey Blake, Dep. Prosecutor Rocky Wixom, Madison Co. Prosecuting Attorney Rob Wood and Special Prosecutor Ingrid Batey at the other table. Judge Steven Boyce is on the bench.

8:20 a.m. We are back in the courtroom and it’s day 19 of Chad Daybell’s murder trial. Dr. Garth Warren, the forensic pathologist who did the autopsies on JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan, will be back on stand this morning. You can get caught up on what he said yesterday here.
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Been listening. 3/4, have to stuff it down rather than let it all through. Awful. I should have left.

Now they are just back.
 
Okay. I dont' know what I gain by listening to this. Now it is this was ONE of the bags received of Tylee. I'm going to leave it as it shows nothing to me of Chad's pure evil and the details aren't going to add to the opinion I already have of his guilt or evil, my opinion I already beyond so I don't need more details on the remains, piles and bags for the children.

Not sure how I will know when such is over but done with it for now. Nope pics but awful details.
 
Not sure on that with Mel. Sounds familiar but not sure.
This article says they sold their house on 3rd October 2019. Brandon was shot at on 2nd Oct 2019 and only Mel knew his address. She had to have moved out on the 2nd or 3rd October at the latest.


According to Mesa’s police report, Pawlowski agreed to take herself off the bank account for Boudreaux’s business known as Cougar Consulting. Bank records show Pawlowski accessed the Chase Bank account several months after signing the divorce decree. Investigators say Pawlowski was supposed to remove herself from the account no more than 60 days after the sale of the former couple’s property on October 3, 2019. The account was accessed sometime after March 2, 2020.
 
Monster.

9:16 a.m. Chad Daybell sits stoned-faced and shakes his head “no” as some of these photographs are displayed. He can see them on the monitor at his table.
 
This article says they sold their house on 3rd October 2019. Brandon was shot at on 2nd Oct 2019 and only Mel knew his address. She had to have moved out on the 2nd or 3rd October at the latest.


According to Mesa’s police report, Pawlowski agreed to take herself off the bank account for Boudreaux’s business known as Cougar Consulting. Bank records show Pawlowski accessed the Chase Bank account several months after signing the divorce decree. Investigators say Pawlowski was supposed to remove herself from the account no more than 60 days after the sale of the former couple’s property on October 3, 2019. The account was accessed sometime after March 2, 2020.
Lori and Z did a casting on Tammy at Mels house on October 9th, 2019. I can only guess an offer was accepted but occupancy or the loan had not been secured yet? So Lori was using her empty home and probably had nowhere of her own having moved. Or some such?
 
Monster.

9:16 a.m. Chad Daybell sits stoned-faced and shakes his head “no” as some of these photographs are displayed. He can see them on the monitor at his table.
I watched a LARGE part of it before I just coudn't any longer. He wasn't shaking his head nor showing any response imo. He was watching his screen with no emotion and reacting not at all.

Either way, yes, MONSTER.
 
Lori and Z did a casting on Tammy at Mels house on October 9th, 2019. I can only guess an offer was accepted but occupancy or the loan had not been secured yet? So Lori was using her empty home and probably had nowhere of her own having moved. Or some such?
It must have been her Rexburg house because the Mesa one was sold by 3rd October.
 
OMG does the JJ stuff not need to be talked of too? CHAD said JJ was going to die young, die soon and was going to come back almost immediately as Colby's son?!!!

Colby and wife had a girl. Now they have two. WRONG GUESS there Chad! WTF? I guess I am using the F these days, resisted for all the years of my life even as a word not spoken but cases have pushed me beyond.

And of course it brings to mind Colby who so even Chad is bringing up here and it reminds me of Emma at the cop car, you raised us, we are NOT Colby dad. Paraphrasing. God knows what he was telling his own kids.

THIS is something I don't ever recall hearing about JJ at least I don't think... And from CHAD'S mouth!
Spooky but he is right about Colby. Shortly after he just recently testified, his wife revealed the new baby she is expecting is going to be a boy. A video is posted on here upthread a bit. I'll try and bump it.
 

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